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Okay, this is me.

Started by Bright_and_Nova, December 29, 2007, 06:56:33 PM

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Bright_and_Nova

I don't really know what to write. To be honest, I'm not sure I really believe in forums like this, and normally when I read them it only causes me to be depressed, so I stop. I'm not sure I really believe they help, I'm not sure I believe they empower people, and to be honest I feel quite uncomfortable here.

I mean, I'm sure you're all lovely people. I suppose I'm talking about other forums when I say this. Mostly, what I see is nothing I can relate to. There are people younger than me (I'm 18), already getting on with things, coming out, and developing an identity. There are older people who feel empowered and liberated, and there's everyone else who generally gives unconditional support.

And it doesn't help that I'm still not convinced of the legitimacy of the entire condition. Just because lots of people think something, doesn't make it so. In the back of my mind when I see forums for Transsexuals, I'm reminded (to my disgust) of those forums encouraging anorexics and supporting them. I know the comparison isn't valid, but in a dark part of my mind I can't help shake that it could simply be a huge delusion, something that might not be healthy for me. And then I just feel lost. There are forums where people post pictures, and everyone instantly responds with extremely flattering comments; as if the poster is six seconds from suicide if they hear anything negative. It doesn't seem truthful, because - honestly, unless you're particularly lucky or in the later stages of transition, people generally don't look attractive at all. And every time I see this happen, a little part of me screams that everyone must be crazy.

Or I see the enormous view-count, and wonder how many of those are fetish-masturbators who get turned on with an accompanying story to match their visual kink. Unregistered, of course, but lurking and enjoying. And that really makes me sick. Saying transsexuals are objectified doesn't quite cut it - we're the absolute, bar none, lowest of the low in terms of jokes and culture. In nearly every sitcom I've seen jokes about girls "turning out to be men!" and other references towards transsexuals are normally always as kinky or deluded. And this isn't even just fiction - there was a support site with articles from a transsexual, which I read, but the stereotype of the kinky transsexual was ultimately proven in her biography (living in a group marriage which is currently welcoming new partners). I felt like maybe it was all true.

And the public health websites don't make me feel any better. I look at them, and between the lines I read: "We swear it's not just Monty Python and adverts which like to be funny; you're real people too, in case you weren't sure. Here, look at these people. They're just like you. Don't you feel better?"

And then just below:

"Oh, the first thing you should know is this is totally normal and others feel the same way. If you've come here because someone you know has expressed these feelings, here are a number of links to help you deal with this emotional boatload. Remember, we're against suicide. "

And science isn't even on my side. Gender Identity Disorder is still a mental illness on the DSM, which is actually what put me off doing Psychology as a degree. Oh sure, write letters and complain and maybe they'll change it, but that doesn't mean we've supplied any scientific evidence - they're just caving to political pressure, not changes in understanding. It doesn't accomplish anything. There's no scientific test you can take to prove you're a transsexual - only answer a few standardised questions - the perfect answers to which, I'm sure someone must have posted on a support forum. So there we go.

I can't do anything. This has totally frozen me psychologically; I can't take myself seriously because I can't take what I'm going through seriously. Well, I know it's serious, but that doesn't mean it makes any sense. It's literally a black patch on my brain which is starting to effect everything else, and I know I'm getting worse and I don't know what to do. And I hear that half of all untransitioned transsexuals are dead before the age of thirty, normally by their own hand - I think it was called the 50% rule? So that's just fantastic, isn't it? If that statistic is true, then everyone with this condition must be one of the most probable groups for suicide on the planet. That's the type of thinking I really don't need.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean for this to turn into a rant. And I don't mean any offence to anyone, but if I wasn't honest there would be no point in me signing up. This isn't a positive thing for me, this is something which drains the life from me every day and makes me feel so lost and miserable that I would sign up for a lobotomy if I was offered it. I'm sorry again, I needed to say this.


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Pica Pica

I've found this website very useful in developing myself and my identity. It has helped me legitimise myself and understand myself.  Might not work for you, but it's worth a shot. Welcome anyway. Have fun.
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IsabelleStPierre

Greetings,

Hum...we all have gone through periods of doubt, denial, and tons of other things. To be honest, to not have any doubts in my mind would be a huge warning sign...the only person who can truly decide what is right for you is you...no matter what anyone ever tells you it's always up to you what you choose to do with the information.

I was 13 when much to my mother's dismay I started to regularly not conform to typical gender roles, started hormones at 15, yada, yada, yada, but that was all my choice...

You are questioning just who you are, not sure if your really transgender or not. That is normal...the state of confusion is a common state for a lot of us for longer periods of time then we'd like to admit too...and for some there isn't any confusion what so ever...

Anyway, welcome to the group...please don't hesitate to ask question and learn...

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
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Bright_and_Nova

Thanks for the quick replies, and you all honestly seem lovely. The thing is though, I've already been through the confusing stage. That's not really the problem. If Transsexualism really exists, that's me. And that can be liberating, but I find it extremely hard to believe in. Not on a personal level, but a global one. Personally I know clearly who I am, but that only makes it worse because I have no way of showing it. And let's be serious - I've read quite a lot of posts, and coming out nearly always causes huge amount of problems. I know the problems shouldn't matter, and mental health reasons should be the most important, but even approaching it is something too massive to even try. People lose connections, friends, family, relationships, and become joked about. And this really happens.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I admire you more than I can admire anyone else for doing it. But I suppose I don't really know what steps to take. And I feel quite cynical with a few of the support systems which will always back me in whatever I decide to be. I don't feel like they're rational or useful, just yes-people. Do you know what I mean? I'm mostly referring to therapy I suppose. It's like everyone who's supposed to help me only has two functions - to nod or to tell me I'm pretty. I just don't feel like that is really helping me, and I'm not sure what I want.
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Pica Pica

I felt a lot like that. That I was suffering from something I'd imposed on myself. That's all changed now...probably best not use the group as support, but as challenge. There are some people here that will argue with you on a great many issues, will not be yes people at all. (Not me, I'm far too amiable\.)
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IsabelleStPierre

Quote from: Bright_and_Nova on December 29, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
Thanks for the quick replies, and you all honestly seem lovely. The thing is though, I've already been through the confusing stage. That's not really the problem. If Transsexualism really exists, that's me. And that can be liberating, but I find it extremely hard to believe in. Not on a personal level, but a global one. Personally I know clearly who I am, but that only makes it worse because I have no way of showing it. And let's be serious - I've read quite a lot of posts, and coming out nearly always causes huge amount of problems. I know the problems shouldn't matter, and mental health reasons should be the most important, but even approaching it is something too massive to even try. People lose connections, friends, family, relationships, and become joked about. And this really happens.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I admire you more than I can admire anyone else for doing it. But I suppose I don't really know what steps to take. And I feel quite cynical with a few of the support systems which will always back me in whatever I decide to be. I don't feel like they're rational or useful, just yes-people. Do you know what I mean? I'm mostly referring to therapy I suppose. It's like everyone who's supposed to help me only has two functions - to nod or to tell me I'm pretty. I just don't feel like that is really helping me, and I'm not sure what I want.

Like I said, only you can decide the right path for you. It sounds like you haven't had the best of experience in the therapy part and I would agree with you that at times they seem to tell you you look pretty even on the days you know you look like crap...been there done that...got rid of that therapist quickly...I need someone who is objective and honest with me at all costs...even if it means possibly hurting my feelings....

I won't lie to you and say that coming-out is easy, but at the same time it's the most liberating and freeing thing you can ever do in your life. Yes, coming-out can cause you tons of problems, you could possibly loss family members, friends, etc. along the way. The path of transsexual isn't the easiest path in the world...it's damn hard! But I, personally, would do it all over again if I had too...

Welcome to the family...and I hope you find what you are looking for...just remember to stop and enjoy the scenery along the way...

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
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shanetastic

Quote from: Bright_and_Nova on December 29, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
Thanks for the quick replies, and you all honestly seem lovely. The thing is though, I've already been through the confusing stage. That's not really the problem. If Transsexualism really exists, that's me. And that can be liberating, but I find it extremely hard to believe in. Not on a personal level, but a global one. Personally I know clearly who I am, but that only makes it worse because I have no way of showing it. And let's be serious - I've read quite a lot of posts, and coming out nearly always causes huge amount of problems. I know the problems shouldn't matter, and mental health reasons should be the most important, but even approaching it is something too massive to even try. People lose connections, friends, family, relationships, and become joked about. And this really happens.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I admire you more than I can admire anyone else for doing it. But I suppose I don't really know what steps to take. And I feel quite cynical with a few of the support systems which will always back me in whatever I decide to be. I don't feel like they're rational or useful, just yes-people. Do you know what I mean? I'm mostly referring to therapy I suppose. It's like everyone who's supposed to help me only has two functions - to nod or to tell me I'm pretty. I just don't feel like that is really helping me, and I'm not sure what I want.

I'm sorta right around your age, but I think that's a sweeping generalization when you say that coming out just causes a huge amount of problems.  I mean, when I came out to everyone, I think the huge problem was all their acceptance and their ability to keep pushing me forward at times.  I would have much rather sat in my dark cave for the rest of my life :P  But hey, at least we're doing something so we can be happy right?  My parents always say it's investing in your future happiness and life (I guess that's their logic on this whole deal and all the money spent.)

Maybe you just feel discouraged right now because you hear so many horror stories, or just feel stuck and don't know what to do.  Ever thought of just not coming out, and going to see a therapist if they can help you either live with this problem or do something about it and help you through it?  Just speculation, I don't know you, or anything about your life, so I could be totally crazy right now.

About the lack of systems to help you as well, it mainly just depends on how you approach this.  I have a lot of honest friends and support in my life.  Sure, they're not going to be harsh about it, but they're not overly like. . . "OMG LOOK AT YOU!!!!!" type of stuff either.  Maybe again, your generalization of the idea makes you think that they have two duties, although I'm not certain.

I hope you can find some help or like ideas on what decisions you can take for yourself.  Just remember, if your miserable now, you're going to be the same in another year, two, ten, twenty and so on.
trying to live life one day at a time
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