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What separates a good from a less good surgeon ?

Started by Periodicaly Dramatic, December 11, 2015, 02:04:01 PM

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AnonyMs

I think I'd prefer one who didn't make too many mistakes. Its really hard to find out though, as they don't tell you and at least for SRS I have a feeling most people don't want to say anything negative.
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Periodicaly Dramatic

Hi I've not yet had a consult but I note that Brian Musgrove does not offer a nurse on call afterwards or any direct recovery facilities. Therefore I'm wondering how debilitated is one afterwards? Is it easy to do the basics for oneself? Is one usually in a lot of pain ? And is it easy to self administer medications ?
Thanks p ☺
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Laura_7

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Quote from: Periodicaly Dramatic on January 17, 2016, 08:13:42 AM
Hi I've not yet had a consult but I note that Brian Musgrove does not offer a nurse on call afterwards or any direct recovery facilities. Therefore I'm wondering how debilitated is one afterwards? Is it easy to do the basics for oneself? Is one usually in a lot of pain ? And is it easy to self administer medications ?
Thanks p ☺

There are postings with concise descriptions of people who went with other surgeons. You might look that up, they give exact hints on food, what to prepare, etc.


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deeiche

Quote from: Periodicaly Dramatic on January 17, 2016, 08:13:42 AM
Hi I've not yet had a consult but I note that Brian Musgrove does not offer a nurse on call afterwards or any direct recovery facilities. Therefore I'm wondering how debilitated is one afterwards? Is it easy to do the basics for oneself? Is one usually in a lot of pain ? And is it easy to self administer medications ?
Thanks p ☺
I had extensive age related soft tissue work along with FFS 4 months ago.  Dr Javier Rossi was my surgeon, I stayed over night in hospital, then came back to the apartment.  I was provided a cell phone to call t-change support person, Amanda, if I needed anything.  She answers 24/7.  I was very swollen, my eyes could barely open the first couple days, though I could see well enough around the apt.  Surgery was on a Wed, I walked around the streets of Buenos Aires the following Monday.

How long does Brian Musgrove stay in hospital after surgery?
"It's only money, not life or death"
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Periodicaly Dramatic

Thanks Deeiche,that's been very informative, hope you got results your happy with.

There's only a night or two in hospital with Brian musgrove . So the first few days could be rough. Thanks ☺
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deeiche

Quote from: Periodicaly Dramatic on January 17, 2016, 01:55:28 PM
Thanks Deeiche,that's been very informative, hope you got results your happy with.
I am very happy with my results.  However time really does make a difference in seeing the results.  I went back to work almost 5 weeks after surgery, I still had bruising  and noticeable swelling at that point.  However I pretty much had "the works" in soft tissue procedures.  Four months on all the bruising is long gone, swelling is greatly diminished.
Quote from: Periodicaly Dramatic on January 17, 2016, 01:55:28 PM
There's only a night or two in hospital with Brian musgrove . So the first few days could be rough. Thanks ☺
Yep, the first couple days in the apt were pretty rough.  However day to day improvements are amazing.  Five days post-op I was walking all over the rejuvenated dock area.

I was 56 at the time of surgery.

Here is my surgery thread, Dr Rossi surgery Sept 16.
"It's only money, not life or death"
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Sybil

I think the only way you can really separate the skill of surgeons is to understand their work. To do this, you would need:

- Foremost, to learn about the anatomy of the face. Dimorphism, proportions (typical vs. atypical), how everything is connected, what tends to be registered as attractive or unattractive (if you care about that sort of thing).

- Learn about the various procedures involved in the face, what they change, if there are multiple approaches, what their limitations can be, how these procedures might interact with one another, and how they heal.

- This last one doesn't necessarily tell us how skilled a surgeon is, but the more information you have available, the better an assessment you can make of a surgeon.

Surgeons who use a lot of marketing, include make-up in their photos or don't make an effort to match up before/after angles, seem to only show off their best results, have sparse results available (especially on request), and so on. This can be a sign that confidence in their work is lacking, especially if it is a very famous surgeon.

Similarly, a surgeon who is avoidant about discussing limitations is a concern, as it demonstrates that they may not feel in control of fully understanding their field. A poster above me said that she does not care about surgeon personalities, and I am inclined to agree (well, in a fashion - at least as far as their talent goes). However, you can pick up clues on a surgeon's expertise by monitoring how they respond to you.
Why do I always write such incredibly long posts?
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Periodicaly Dramatic

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 In the case of Sterling-euro exchange rate, Brian Musgrove could work out expensive.  How much does Jenny's nest cost,with Facial Team roughly? Ideally I'd like to get the job done,everything, including hair transplants,flights, for E20k,is that realistic? Marbella is expensive?.
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Paula1

Personally I would never touch a British cosmetic surgeon or FFS surgeon with a barge pole ever again.

I know from bitter experience ...  :( and one or two of my British friends who have had to have their FFS done all over again. ( Not originally with Musgrove to be fair to him )

Musgroves work especially on older patients looks way too conservative in my opinion.

Marbella and Spain in general are dead cheap compared to "Rip Off UK" or indeed the USA.

I am renting a luxury studio apartment with Colour TV tuned in to the UK, fully equipped kitchen, shower, aircon, pool and bar in the grounds on Marbella's Golden Mile for £32.00 a night - Total £480 for 15 nights thru Trip Advisor. It's actually costing me £16.00 a night as I am sharing with my carer !!!!

The apartment is owned by a Brit who lives on site which is great as we have been chatting about any extras I might need such as an extra bed in case one of my USA friends decides to join us for a bit of April sun ... 8)

See post #5 for "Jenny's Nest" costs:  https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,201821.0.html
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