Don't mind me, I just need to slip off and tell all the women I know that they are wearing mens clothes..

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Quote from: Wild Flower on January 29, 2016, 05:35:27 PM
If youre not wearing this... Youre dressing like a man

Cute Ida came here to ask for advice on what to her is a legitimate concern of hers, the tone of this thread seems to be mocking her. This post in particular is extremely derisive.

I wont say 'I apologize', but really at least to me, if all the females are fine wearing a vest then it is a losing battle. She has no one on her side, and by continuing to not wear the uniform will 9 out 10 will result in either firing her, or leaving a bad impression in the peoples eyes... So theyll look for some something to fire her upon.

A picture with a dress will be harmless when the end result is no money for food. Im a survivalist. Money is scarce enough... When in Rome, do what the Romans do. Dont make yourself a black sheep in a losing battle.

If this was something horrid like females force to shave their hair for a job... Then go at it.

Pick your battles.

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In my life, if anyone differs from the crowd and causing issues... The crowd is like a beast. They will just spit you out. Too many people need jobs.

No one is safe doing this.....


Look at Sinead O'connor... Top of her game back in the early 90s but ruin her career by tearing up a picture of the pope... No one on her side (in those days). Look at Madonna... She hurt her career with Erotica (1992) too much sexuality... It took her 6 years to recover, when she was at her peak.

Dixie Chicks.... Must I go on?

Quote from: Wild Flower on January 29, 2016, 07:10:20 PM
I wont say 'I apologize', but really at least to me, if all the females are fine wearing a vest then it is a losing battle. She has no one on her side, and by continuing to not wear the uniform will 9 out 10 will result in either firing her, or leaving a bad impression in the peoples eyes... So theyll look for some something to fire her upon.

A picture with a dress will be harmless when the end result is no money for food. Im a survivalist. Money is scarce enough... When in Rome, do what the Romans do. Dont make yourself a black sheep in a losing battle.

If this was something horrid like females force to shave their hair for a job... Then go at it.

Pick your battles.

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In my life, if anyone differs from the crowd and causing issues... The crowd is like a beast. They will just spit you out. Too many people need jobs.

No one is safe doing this.....


Look at Sinead O'connor... Top of her game back in the early 90s but ruin her career by tearing up a picture of the pope... No one on her side (in those days). Look at Madonna... She hurt her career with Erotica (1992) too much sexuality... It took her 6 years to recover, when she was at her peak.

Dixie Chicks.... Must I go on?

  Being blunt with advice is one thing, doing something to make fun of or ridicule someone for how they feel is another thing entirely.

Office max & Best Buy make everyone wear polos and khakis. I feel bad for the ladies there, but I've also heard them say they're less objectified on the job.

I think the underlying message is that uniforms generally suck, but without them employees sometimes take too many liberties with how they dress.  As a general rule, companies implement and enforce uniforms as a way of cutting down the time they spend on policing employee attire.

I think the real challenge you're facing in all this is that you're creating more work for them inside of a policy specifically designed to reduce work.

I agree vests can be hideous, but I'm not sure I see a positive outcome for you.


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Quote from: Stevie on January 29, 2016, 10:15:00 PM


  Being blunt with advice is one thing, doing something to make fun of or ridicule someone for how they feel is another thing entirely.

Youre right.

I look at my avatar... And it reminded me to not judge people.  I apologize. People judge me, and it hurts. I dont think this forum needs that attitude. Because we all are here for a reason; help, platonic love, acceptance.

Quote from: Wild Flower on January 30, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
Youre right.

I look at my avatar... And it reminded me to not judge people.  I apologize. People judge me, and it hurts. I dont think this forum needs that attitude. Because we all are here for a reason; help, platonic love, acceptance.

  Hugs

I see nothing wrong with the vest or it's use.  It's meant to do exactly as another member stated, and that's to distinguish you from customers; it's customer service oriented and not any sort of whimsical play on alienating you as a woman nor is it an attempt to somehow make you more masculine.

I've wore BDU's and ACU's; both take away any sense of individuality.  I currently wear a safety vest, cut proof gauntlets, a hardhat, safety glasses, steel toed boots, and gloves; I wear all of it for my protection and will continue to wear it as whether or not I'm masculine or feminine means nothing in regards to PPE's purpose.

Do I sometimes get aggravated that I have to keep my hair in a pony tail?  Yup.  But that's about it. Adaptation is the means through which we survive; get 'er done.

I know a lot of women that wear vests. It's a cool look. It doesn't make them look any less feminine.


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Honestly this is one reason why some people are not cool with LGBT community because of the  militant ones who get their panties bunched over a vest.
I'm not hating, I'm simply pointing out that it might be best to pick one's battles


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I think you need to move away from gender argument if you want to make any progress. It's a losing battle. Focus on how wearing the vest affects your disability. I still don't think you're going to win this one, but good luck.


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I don't understand why Walmart is getting their undies on a bundle over a vest.  I live in the same state as the OP and I do shop at some of the Wallmarts around. I have never seen a store where everyone wears the same attire.  That, I  think is part of the problem.

Vests are typically for the male gender.  That can cause problems.  This is more about pushing someone around as opposed to a dress code.

THAT is a problem.

Jen

Quote from: WaterGirl on February 11, 2016, 11:48:12 AM
Honestly this is one reason why some people are not cool with LGBT community because of the  militant ones who get their panties bunched over a vest.
I'm not hating, I'm simply pointing out that it might be best to pick one's battles


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  You are misinterpreting the situation. Ida has an issue with the vest aggravating her dysphoria. The cut of the vest is very masculine and Ida like a lot of us has issues with looking masculine.
I have also noticed that some of the posters telling Ida to just suck it up are not even presenting as female at work so they have no real understanding of what she is dealing with.