My experience with laser has been that it is permanent.  It may take a few treatments for some areas but it's permanent.  It's much faster than electrolysis to cover an area and overall hurts less, but still hurts.

The face has easily been the most resistant area to any sort of treatment.  That would be due to heritage I suppose. 

Before laser I used to be a Chewbacca stand in. (slight exaggeration)  Now I'm hairless except for scalp and eyebrows.  My body treatments were over 5 years ago and there has been no regrowth.  My face took a lot more effort and I did it in two large efforts.  The first effort was about 5 years back and served to clear the sides of my face. 

I went through a go all the way or not stage that lasted a few years and then over the past year finished the rest.  Roughly 1 30 min treatment of laser and electrolysis every 2 months for the past year and now I'm clear. 

If you have laser and it's temporary then I think you might want to look into a different clinic. 

Hm, judging my this thread, it would seem that fair-skinned, fair-haired people like myself only have electrolysis as an option.

I would definitivly recommend getting rid of what you can in your face with laser as soon as possible . My hairs are getting thinner , more spaced and blonde . It happened with both my body and face . I have no more chest/butt/scrotum hair growth  , hairs on legs /cheeks / arms/ armpit are so slow growing and are 3/4 blonde I would say . I would recommend to wait before doing any body hair removal . However get rid of facial hairs with laser for sure

Thanks again for all the replies ladies.

Yes my facial hair is mostly black and my skin is very fair, so even with a ton of concealer and foundation you can still see a dark shade. I hate it so much, but I think going with laser might be the best option for me.

Don't forget to use the red or orange lipstick - as long as you blend it right it will cover nicely until those pesky follicles produce no more.  I have a pretty good little system going if you need help with it- fortuntaly our Silk-n-Flash-n -Go is doing its thing nicely.


Be safe

Marlo

I might need to get my girl hands on one of those devices you mentioned MsMarlo, thanks for tip.

Stella:

Here is the link - check it out and let me know what you think.  I use it more frequently than the instructions state, but that is just me. 

https://www.silkn.com/flash-and-go/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=%7Bkeyword%7D&utm_campaign=flash%26go

Talk to ya soon and be safe

Marlo

Just beware, these may not permanently eliminate unwanted hairs...invest wisely.

Hi all, I'd think I'd go for laser myself first and see if that will make electrolysis a non necessity. Questions for you ladies:

1` - I'm looking at PTF and not IPL for laser treatment. Have any of you tried PTF or even better both? If so what are your take on the results?

2   - I'm thinking of going to laser but only after 3 months in HRT just because it is supposed to make your hair lighter. Question I have is to see if there's some sort of timetable for us starting HRT?

Thanks for your answers

Three hundred bucks with FDA approval and proven results is not too bad of an investment.  I underwent four electro treatments at $75 each and not much of an area was done; I think we all can deduce how much a full treatment would ultimately cost.

This way you're saving time and gas, you do it in the privacy of your own home, and there are no scheduling issues.  Everyone is different, so as always results will vary. The only contraindication to this particular product is if one has a darker skin tone the built in sensor will not allow the device to "fire." 

Just in case anyone is wondering no, I am not a salesperson or representative for this device; I'm just someone for whom this product has yielded great results. 

As always, be safe

Marlo

Quote from: MsMarlo on February 03, 2016, 10:47:17 PM
Three hundred bucks with FDA approval and proven results

What proven results? Have you read the studies? Were they short-term or long-term studies? Do they prove hair is permanently reduced or eliminated? Not the same thing. FDA approved could also just mean it's safe to use but perhaps not effective for truly eliminating unwanted hairs for good.

QuoteI underwent four electro treatments at $75 each and not much of an area was done; I think we all can deduce how much a full treatment would ultimately cost.

Electrolysis also costs me about that much per hour and in the end, I paid a lot but it was a worthwhile investment. 7-8 yrs later, still hair free and one less thing I have to worry about. Out of the way!

Check out the website as well as a segment on the Doctors and customer reviews as opposed to a product called "No-No;" very appropriately named.  Even with electro the results will vary from person to person as any worthwhile specialist will tell you. 

We're her to support each other, not necessarily debate issues or products.  In the end, we all have to do our own research and make our own decisions.  Even after I obtain my license, it will be up to my patients as to whether or not they will follow the course of action I have recommended. 

Be safe

Marlo

Quote from: MsMarlo on February 04, 2016, 04:40:59 PM
Check out the website as well as a segment on the Doctors and customer reviews as opposed to a product called "No-No;" very appropriately named.

I don't see any studies. Far from convincing.

QuoteEven with electro the results will vary from person to person as any worthwhile specialist will tell you.

J Cosmet Dermatol. 2013 Jun;12(2):153-62.

"While laser hair removal (LHR) is one of the most common cosmetic procedures practiced in the world, according to the FDA, the only current permanent form of hair removal is electrolysis."

Dermatol Ther. 2008 Sep-Oct;21(5):392-401.

"Electrolysis, thermolysis, and a combination of both are three popular procedures used for epilation or permanent hair removal"

J Am Acad Dermatol. 1995 Oct;33(4):662-6.

"Electrolysis has been performed since 1875. Electrolysis satisfactorily removes hair from women with static hair growth"

Cutis. 1990 May;45(5):319-21, 325-6.

"Electrolysis and thermolysis are popular and medically proven electrochemical and electrosurgical techniques for permanent hair removal."

QuoteWe're her to support each other, not necessarily debate issues or products.

It is important to clarify matters so as to help others make the best decision possible.

Sweetie, if you want to keep this going, be my guest.  As far as I'm concerned, this matter is closed.


Be safe

Marlo

I have had three full IPL sessions on my neck in 2015 and a touch up under my chin to clear a 1/2cm line that did not go away fully. Then three IPL on my lower face now. The whole neck is cleared and the last session was nearly.. 7-8+ months ago. I just got the third on my face a fortnight ago and all I have is small patches of hair on my chin and thinning on my upper lip. The issue area is under my bottom lip it is still a pain. However the girl doing mine said I really can not clear that part as easily so once we clear the rest you can grab a few free sessions to focus on it.

I started like this:






This is where I am now after 3 on my neck and just had 3rd on my face:



I am aiming to clear it with two more I think on face and a touch up on the neck. Then start low dose hrt with a few one hour electrolysis if need be. Although no blonde hairs anywhere thus far or grey thankfully.