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I am suicidal really really bad place

Started by Amoré, January 30, 2016, 04:47:17 AM

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Qrachel

First, thank you and I am very hopeful for you . . . it's tough now but it gets easier.

Second, there's always the possibility of only talking to her when it's prescribed legally or essential for the care and overall well-being of your daughter.

I finally had to refuse to engage with my ex until she could do so w/o the wrath and painful guilt tripping.  It took a few incidents and a month or so but it changed - wasn't perfect but definitely much better.

Rachel
Rachel

"Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I'll try again tomorrow."
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RobynD

My heart goes out to you. As someone that has had depression and anxiety most of her life. You have a lot of really good life ahead of you and door #1 is the right one to charge through.

In my darkest loneliest moments i have found three helpful things. One, medical - make sure the docs know of the feelings and get meds to help. Social - Get out among people a lot of people, shopping, sitting and reading in coffee shops whatever. Ignore the happy families they all have their issues too. Just enjoy being out with others. Three, altruism - One of the best ways to elevate yourself out of things is to help people who are worse off or bad off in another way. Volunteer, join an organization etc.

hugs - Robyn


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Amoré

Well I went to my therapist today and I told her that my wife is bashing me for transitioning and that I don't want to be a father and that she is going to look for someone that wants to be a father for my popsicle. Well I told her to go ahead with her plan then if that is what she wants because I can't stop her if she want to replace me.

I was told that my trans issue is a problem and that I myself is a problem.



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RobynD

Quote from: Amoré on February 01, 2016, 11:59:54 AM
Well I went to my therapist today and I told her that my wife is bashing me for transitioning and that I don't want to be a father and that she is going to look for someone that wants to be a father for my popsicle. Well I told her to go ahead with her plan then if that is what she wants because I can't stop her if she want to replace me.

I was told that my trans issue is a problem and that I myself is a problem.

Did the therapist provide any helpful advice or feedback on that?


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Amoré

Quote from: RobynD on February 01, 2016, 12:11:33 PM
Did the therapist provide any helpful advice or feedback on that?

Well my therapist told me my wife is bashing me because she is angry because she does not want me to transition and it is something that is out of her control. So she is starting to play dirty to try and regain control. She is playing my parents up against me also now. She is thinking that my dad will intimidate me enough so that I won't transition.

The funny part is my dad just wants me to open up my mind. Because I was going so much back and forward between transition and not.

It is the third time I am typing this post.

Well basically this morning I was upset by what she said but it is manipulation she is trying ti manipulate me into staying a man. She thought she was safe when she decided to divorce that I am going to stay a man. Really you thought that well you only gave Amoray more reason more life left only 3 doors open and I am taking door no 1.

The other thing that my therapist said I must stop forgiving her behaviour and see it as unacceptable because I am forgiving everything. The way she is treating me is unacceptable. How she is still trying to dictate my life.
Well physical abuse.
Emotional abuse
Trying to make myself feel bad because I am trans.

My endo told me if I stopped with hrt this time he will not give me another subscription. Well she thought I am screwed and I could not get another one. She thought she had it all figured out from using my family to try and make me feel bad to my child to my dad to intimidate me.

What did I do from somewhere in me some sort of strange female power essence came up I do not know what it is where it came from but it is some sort of thing I never felt before and I turned B.

I told her she had the chance to keep me a man if it is so important to her that I stay a man. She failed to do it I am not at fault here she had the opportunity for six months. I even told her last sunday I will stay a man for you it is your choice and she showed me away.

Not she gave me the chance to stay a man for them I gave her the chance and she screwed it up.

Then she want to come and tell me she is going to find someone that want to be a father for my child that want to spend time with her and be a role model for her.  ;) Well I told her to go find him because I know step parents and all their crap. Plus a role model who do you think is the role model the step dad that sits and watch rugby and drink beer or wait for it.... The parent that is trans that hit rock bottom and picked herself up that won against dysphoria. The parent that is a real parent and showed the world that we trans people are people and we can love and be loved. We trans people can function in normal life and that we can have families,friends and children. Also we can have careers. All this with all odds stacked against us. Who is the real role model?

Plus she thought she will get rid of Amoray by divorcing me well guess again. We share a child! Amoray is here and she is here too stay she will look into my pretty eyes and see who I really am. I will be at sport events at school events and much more and I will not lie about where my child is coming from pretend that I am the friend and she is some strangers child nooooo. I will make sure they know that me and my ex is her parents. I am not scared I faced enough to be a strong girl. My child will see me standing tall and strong as a woman and follow my example. So she thought she had it all sorted and under control and I would just go on be a man to suit her well guess again.

She had the opportunity it was given to her on a golden platter.

How many trans people are willing to give up their own self and who they are for someone they love? She had it in front of her she could have taken it if it meant so much for her that I stay a man.


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RobynD

Hang in there and know your not alone. The therapist sounds right. She is lashing out and who knows when that will subside but in some way it will mellow out.

Long term, it is usually the bitter parent and not the loving and reconciliatory parent that has a bad relationship with the child. Children see the truth of bitterness and unreasonableness.

Imagine yourself in the better place that door#1 will have for you. At your child's sporting event, with a significant other than you love and being in a better place.



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Amoré

Well I have too make peace with that I can never get her back again. :'( I really love her but she does not want me back she told me never over her dead body will she take me back.

She lashed out about how big problem trans is and how big problem I am.

I don't know if you really love someone how do you get over them?
How do you not want to fix it?

I can't explain to anyone really the amount of pain I am carrying at this stage in time.
I can't explain each day how I really feel in words, why I am going into door one I went in there but still door 3 is an option.


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Violets

Quote from: Amoré on February 01, 2016, 11:12:26 PM
I don't know if you really love someone how do you get over them?
How do you not want to fix it?

I can't explain to anyone really the amount of pain I am carrying at this stage in time.

I do know how you feel, and I tried all too hard to fix things when my own marriage failed. Sadly, this only made the relationship between my ex and I even worse... toxic in fact. You probably won't like me saying this, but there are some things that you simply have to let go for the sake of your own well-being. Your heart won't begin to heal until you do.

Please don't even consider Door 3. I've been where you are now and I can tell you that things will get better if you give it time.

Also, I hope you're getting good legal advice.


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Amoré

Quote from: Violets on February 02, 2016, 02:52:22 AM
I do know how you feel, and I tried all too hard to fix things when my own marriage failed. Sadly, this only made the relationship between my ex and I even worse... toxic in fact. You probably won't like me saying this, but there are some things that you simply have to let go for the sake of your own well-being. Your heart won't begin to heal until you do.

Please don't even consider Door 3. I've been where you are now and I can tell you that things will get better if you give it time.

Also, I hope you're getting good legal advice.

Hi Violets

Yes I am getting good legal advice. Some things can't be fixed also or the other person does not want to fix it. I know it is better to let it go my therapist also advised it. My relationship turned toxic it turned so bad that we can't even look each other in the eye. I am trying to let it go but sometimes this takes time it takes patience and you think that where you are in this point of time is the end you just want it to stop. I am sitting here dressed female basically living full time now and I won't say it is the most wonderful thing in the world I did not really want this for myself. I got a drive and a need to be female but what I really wanted for myself in life was something completely different.

Some people may want to transition other people have to transition because they haven't got a choice I am one of those people that have to that is forced too by something I did not account for. I thought I will take it too the grave. Why am I doing this to myself taking hormones too change my body be more female appear more female and lose all that I loved for just being a woman. It does not always feel right I feel stupid sometimes.


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Laura_7

There are studies showing being transgender has biological connections.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,186458.msg1664590.html#msg1664590

There are differences in brains of women and men so a mismatch is possible.
There are even substances known to cause a higher rate of transgender people.
So its nobodys fault, and transgender people can't help it.

You might concentrate on what you feel makes you happy, and brings you joy (within reason).

You now have the opportunity to explore what you would like, and find new parts of you.
Maybe you want to start cooking ... gardening ... creative activities ... all activities that could bring you in contact with your female side.


*hugs*
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Asche

Quote from: Amoré on February 02, 2016, 03:36:37 AM
Yes I am getting good legal advice.

Glad to hear that.

BTW, I don't know if I'm mishearing things, but I'm getting the impression that your ex wants to cut off all contact between you and your child.  Don't give in on that.  Do what you can to (legally) be a part of your child's life, however little that may be.  Don't compete, don't put anyone down.  As others have said, sooner or later she (?) will figure out what's true and what's a lie.  And on that day, if not sooner, the fact that you wanted and tried to be in her life will matter to her.

Quote from: Amoré on February 02, 2016, 03:36:37 AM
Some things can't be fixed also or the other person does not want to fix it. I know it is better to let it go my therapist also advised it. My relationship turned toxic it turned so bad that we can't even look each other in the eye. I am trying to let it go but sometimes this takes time it takes patience and you think that where you are in this point of time is the end you just want it to stop.

BTDT.

When I was getting divorced, I had to consciously kill my feelings towards my ex.  I felt like an animal caught in a leg-hold trap chewing its leg off to save its life.

It's hard and it hurts.  A lot.  And it never goes away.  But you realize at some point that your life does go on even after your heart has been torn out of you.  Your heart somehow grows back.  And at some point, even though you still care and it still hurts, you wake up and look out at the new day and you find yourself saying, "I'm free!"
"...  I think I'm great just the way I am, and so are you." -- Jazz Jennings



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