Republicans demand girls flash their vaginas to get into women's toilets

Nick Duffy 
Pink News
5th February 2016, 12:12 PM

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"A surreal anti-trans bill has progressed in Washington state – which could enforce 'genital-checking' for public bathrooms."

Well, it's all about supporting good and wholesome family values.  See:

QuoteWashington state Republican Graham Hunt, who has led the charge in the anti-trans movement, was recently forced to resign after it emerged details of his military career had been fabricated or embellished.

Sapere Aude

These people are like one big Saturday night live skit. A sane person would hardly believe they are serious, but scarily they are.

I know.  A few months ago the primary lobbyist against LGBT in the Family Research Council was exposed as a child molester.


Sapere Aude

I'm actually getting a little tired of these sensational headlines. No one has suggested any such checking. In fact it seems clear to me that the people proposing this legislation intend it as a way to exonerate business owners who are accused of harassment when they tell trans people they can't use the proper rest room.

These headlines have the effect of lulling our community into thinking these laws will be seen as ridiculous, which, given the success so far of this one, is obvious not a majority viewpoint.

They're not going to get women to drop their pants, they're going to ask people they suspect are trans to carry a 'proof of surgery' letter.

Imagine how that would go down if they accidentally ask a genetic woman to show her proof of surgery letter. Still ridiculous.

I want to know what they intend to do when they stop a pre-op trans woman that has an F on her drivers license but of course is not carrying the required proof of surgery - are they going to make her drop her pants on the spot? Are they going to call in a gender examiner for the job? And does the hapless female have to hold it for an hour or two until the gender examiner gets on site?

And what about trans kids? Isn't that molestation to require a genital check from someone under 18?

This whole thing is ludicrous. I envision all kinds of lawsuits and finger pointing when this goes bad, such as when cisgender women get cornered and accused of being in the wrong bathroom.

In a nearby county there was just an outbreak regarding a Republican on its legislative board.  He wanted genitalia checks for the school restrooms specifically because he thought people will fake being transgender, walk into the opposite gender bathroom, and rape someone.  Seriously?  Anyone can do that without cross-dressing.  Any shouting for help will be heard equally as loudly.  Doesn't make sense to me.  At least his proposal was shot down by everyone except for himself.  Still nonsense though!  Pretty sure this dude got arrested.

  Are you sure this is not an SNL skit? I'm not touching this one with a ten-foot pole checker! Silly!

Joelene

I personally have no issue in family rest rooms as a man or women. Just don't specify that's what they're for and don't make hateful legislation that is also a bit insane. I can't wrap my head around the amount of hate a single party can display and still get votes. When Putin passed bus laws Americans lost their minds. However, when it happens user their own noses the republican constituents agree and make excuses. Smh

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Lets keep the discussion civil please and not descend into the rhetoric that transphobic people use against us. We are better than that.

Quote from: Eva Marie on February 05, 2016, 08:26:50 PM
I want to know what they intend to do when they stop a pre-op trans woman that has an F on her drivers license but of course is not carrying the required proof of surgery - are they going to make her drop her pants on the spot? Are they going to call in a gender examiner for the job? And does the hapless female have to hold it for an hour or two until the gender examiner gets on site?

I expect the way it will work is that the bar/restaurant owner will tell you you can't use the ladies' room. If you have some sort of documentation, you show him. Otherwise he's within his rights and if you object, he'll ask you to leave his establishment (which is probably what he wants anyway).

Quote from: Ms Grace on February 05, 2016, 08:06:10 PM
Imagine how that would go down if they accidentally ask a genetic woman to show her proof of surgery letter. Still ridiculous.

I imagine they're aiming the law at the obviously non-passable. They're thinking that business owners will want to avoid conflict if there any doubt.

I imagine they're aiming the law at the obviously non-passable. They're thinking that business owners will want to avoid conflict if there any doubt.
[/quote]so now we have a whole new layer of discrimination " pass and no pass "

Quote from: stephaniec on February 06, 2016, 05:17:39 AM
so now we have a whole new layer of discrimination " pass and no pass "

We always have, right? There's definitely a "passing privilege".

I usually hate reading comments about articles on facebook and such but people seemed overwhelmingly against this. Seemed 99.9% of women would rather pee in the same bathroom as trans girls than flash their junk.

Why do we have gender specific restrooms at all?

Why not require individual restrooms that anybody can use?

Also, I do not trust anybody who holds political office, Republican or Democrat or Whatever.

Quote from: Dani on February 08, 2016, 04:27:06 AM
Why do we have gender specific restrooms at all?

A wide majority of people don't mind them.

Quote from: suzifrommd on February 08, 2016, 04:56:57 AM
A wide majority of people don't mind them.

A wide majority of people don't mind a lot of things, yet they aren't the best.  I mean, look at healthcare in the us, that's all split up but people don't mind.  But its still arguable that it would be better as one...

Not starting a political topic, just an example off the top of my head.

As for bathrooms specifically, its just been around so long.  Why don't they remove things in APIs sometimes, and only deprecate them instead?  Because its been around so long that the change would be too difficult.  So instead, they offer up the new method and leave support for the old method running anyway.

In other words, a transition to universal bathrooms would only happen as an option at this point in time.  Just a random thought.

Maybe it would be different if we lived in utopia...


PS I am horrible at explaining *facepalm*

Quote from: Peep on February 05, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
They're not going to get women to drop their pants, they're going to ask people they suspect are trans to carry a 'proof of surgery' letter.

And how are they going to authenticate such a letter?  Hell anyone can write a convincing letter in MS word, sign a fictitious Doctor name and even have it notorized.