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Suicide after transition

Started by galaxy, February 22, 2016, 10:52:41 PM

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galaxy

I decided to do suicide after transition. Iam not sure when i will do it but it will happen. Ive so much reasons for it and transitioning in the late 30s is only something for strong characters. Girls which have many luck or a very good self esteem. Ive nothing of it. All my surgeries had no success, 2 breast ops, my suporn surgery. No results with my HRT!! Ive no power anymore and dont want to have it anymore.

Thanks for reading.
Enjoy yor transition if you can.
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stephaniec

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Dena

I understand what you are feeling but you need to talk about your feeling with a therapist. The transition isn't easy and even I had to face job loss and problems caused by the transition. It took time but I was able to overcome those problems and went on to live a happy life. You are feeling down now but it can be fixed and anyone who had the strength to deal with the transition has the strength to find the life you deserve.
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Ms Grace

It sounds like you are in a very bleak place at the moment. I'm sorry to hear that you are unhappy with the results of your transition and surgeries. Is there a particular reason you are so upset with them. As Dena suggests, talking about this with a counsellor would be a great starting place towards a happier more fulfilled outcome and path than the one you are suggesting.
Grace
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galaxy

I already talked to all this doctors. No one could give me any reasons why i had no luck. It happen they say. It happen. I still have no breast. After 2 surgeries. Whats going up there. Do i booked all the sad and wrong things? After SRS all of my little hair began to fall out. Why that? Iam 6 month post now and get acne now. My whole back is full of it. My hair is getting fatty after a few hours. Whats that now. I cutted my gonades and my body is terrorized by androgens????


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Dena

The body will continue to produce male hormones from other locations for a while after surgery. Sometimes you need to remain on blocker for a while after surgery while the body stabilizes. You need to have an Endo check all of your hormone levels male and female to determine if this is the problem. It will stabilize over time and should drop to feminine levels.

As for the implants, it sounds like they leaked. It may be a defect in the brand or something else. The doctors should have examined the old ones and determined why they leaked. The problem could have been caused by the using the same implant in both surgeries.
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galaxy

My bloodlevels are very good. No signs of to much androgens.

At the second surgery, i wanted round implants. But he used the implants of the first surgery. I had a small B Cup after that 2 surgeries.
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Dena

I don't know. I am not a doctor but it sounds like your body may still be adjusting to the new hormone balance. Hormones are handled far differently than when I transitioned and it seems like the post surgical response can be different as well. I will have to think about that a bit more.

I don't have a clue what your doctor was thinking. If he reused the old implants, he must have only adjusted the fluid levels in the implants. The amount he could adjust your size would be limited by the implant. Here in the United States we would probably sue the doctor for not delivering what we ask for. I don't know how it works in your country when a doctor preforms surgery and fails to deliver what was promised.

I am going to have to continue this discussion tomorrow because it's mid night were I am and I have a doctors appointment tomorrow. Others may continue this thread while I am sleeping.
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galaxy

Look at the pretty girls in the threads here. I never wanted to be model, only part of here or elsewhere in th net. Where people come together and give you a thumb. I posted several pics here and got 1-2 responses. Iam not pretty or attractive. Iam ugly. For all time. I hate to be ugly.
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stephaniec

I'm don't want to disagree with you , but I know I've tried my best to convey to you every time I've seen your picture how pretty you are.my faith doesn't allow me to lie or exaggerate .
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galaxy

No one gave me any feedback. Not here,  not on facebbook, not everywhere else.
It makes no sense.
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Mariah

I know it can be frustrating not getting a response from a pic but that doesn't mean your not pretty at all. Sometimes some photos don't get comments or get buried. It isn't an indication of anything. I have placed many a photo and haven't had a word said and then I have places photos that get me comments everywhere, including PM, raving about the picture. I know things sometimes go wrong and that can be terribly frustrating, but there are things that can be bone. As Dena mentioned, there can be flows with implants and that I would contact them. I'm sure there is something that can and should be done about that. we are here for you. Big Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: galaxy on February 23, 2016, 01:39:44 AM
Look at the pretty girls in the threads here. I never wanted to be model, only part of here or elsewhere in th net. Where people come together and give you a thumb. I posted several pics here and got 1-2 responses. Iam not pretty or attractive. Iam ugly. For all time. I hate to be ugly.
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Ms Grace

Comparing yourself to others or hoping that the validation of others will make you "ok" is never going to work. The one person who has to accept you is yourself, sounds like you are struggling with that.
Grace
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doll89

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girllllllll there's so much more to life than getting likes and being pretty! omg I would never commit suicide even though I am not super happy with myself or anything, if I wanted to commit suicide I would do it in another way: change my attitude, change my life, move to a different country, start a new life or something like that. you could move to another city and get so many new friends or new positive influences, OR you could just change your attittude, let it go and it will all come your way, at the right time. but its all your choice, its your life, be strong and if you can't, you still have to get through it, because you never know where you will be in 10 years!
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kittenpower

Hi Galaxy,
I am sorry that you are struggling now, but everything will improve in time, however if you take the irreversible step of ending your life, you will rob yourself of of ever knowing what will come, and you will cause so much pain to your family and friends. My first fiancé' died of an overdose, after we broke up, and I was so heartbroken, that I was unable to fall in love with anyone else for 12 years after her death.  You seem like an awesome and caring person, and it would be devastating to all of us if you ended your life.  You are still young, and even though you may not think so; you are pretty. There is so much to live for, so please do not let anyone, not even yourself rob you of what this beautiful life has to offer ❤️😊
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Serenation

Hi galaxy, Anaesthetic messes your body up, causes hair loss. You should be coming right soon. If you go from having a blocker to not using them after srs it can feel like there's more T in your system because what little there is can now be used by the body. It will probably settle down but like others have said you can go on blockers after srs.

post op depression is real Hug. Hope you feel better soon
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Laura_7


*hugs*

Would you mind using an avatar picture for one or two days so people can have a look at it and give some tips and appreciation ?

Can you do a few things in the meantime to lift mood ? Doing a few things you like... enjoying a walk ...


*hugs*
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Dena

I haven't posted in your thread for nearly a day because I was busy in my morning and because I was reviewing many of the posts you have made in the year and a half you have been on the site. I needed to do this because I have only been on the site about half that time and haven't really gotten to know you. I have discovered that you have had depression dating back to the time you joined the site. You are now post surgical and it appears you may not have had sufficient therapy to deal with this depression. The transition doesn't alway end up as we planed so therapy is important to help us see and live with the truth.

My decision to transition was driven by the fact I could no longer live in a male life. I didn't care if I ended up an ugly scrub woman with no family. If that was the price I had to pay in order to have peace of mind, I would pay that price. I ended up keeping my family and had a far better job than scrubbing floors. I didn't exactly turn out ugly, but much like you, hormones didn't make my body bloom. Five years of estrogen results in about an AA cup size bra. More years gave me an A size bra. Consider the fact I am 6'2" (188 cm) in hight and about 170 pounds (77 Kg) in weight. I don't have much of a figure and with clothes on my body looks pretty boyish. Yes, I knew about breast implants in the early 1980's, but I also knew they weren't trouble free. Between failure and encapsulation I felt they would be a problem I would have to live with in the future and it would be better just to learn to be comfortable with what I had. I accepted my body for what it was and didn't worry about what others though of it. That brought me peace of mind and happiness for many years. All I need to do is recall how uncomfortable the old me was and how I no longer have that pain and it just makes me happy to be alive.

You often talk about death. Sadly for me, 6 people I have known well are no longer alive. Of the 6, the three closest are my father, my brother and my roommate of 30 years. Taking your own life may seem to be a way to escape pain but it causes a great deal of pain for others. This pain might only last a year or two but it can sometimes remain with a person for the remainder of their life. I understand how much you hurt because I came close to taking my own life once. Now after seeing all of the hurt I would have caused, I am glad I didn't and instead found a solution to my problems. I am sure there is a solution for you and the best place to start looking is in therapy. No transition is perfect so we need to find a way to deal with the imperfections. There is a great life waiting for you but you will need to put the work in to find it. 
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cindianna_jones

Galaxy, please... give any decision a day, a week, a month, or a year. Then postpone it again. Sometimes it's all we can do to just make it to the next day. Your life can get better. I've been there.

I tried suicide on two occasions over thirty years ago and after the second failure I had an epiphany telling me that I would never go there again. I became determined to beat this thing once and for all. But 16 months ago my husband told me he was leaving me for a "real woman." Up until then, I wasn't aware that ANYTHING was wrong. We didn't fight and we only had five minor arguments during our entire time together. He was the only person in the world I thought to whom I could tell anything. We'd been together for 24 years. He left me holding a loaded shotgun in my mouth and hid his Harley at the neighbors house while he left for the night in his truck to stay somewhere else. He didn't call or tell anyone that I might kill myself. I sat there sucking on the barrel and sobbing for two hours before I decided to call my mother and tell her to postpone her planned trip to visit me the following week. She could tell that I was upset and I told her that I had a loaded shotgun, that Paul was leaving me, and that I couldn't make it financially. I thought my life was over. She told me, "Honey, if you do this, that bastard will win. He'll get everything you have left." And that's what pulled me out of it. I'm not a loser. I'm a winner. So, even though that was not a real suicide attempt, it is probably the lowest I have ever felt in my life. And I will never to THERE again either.

I was forced to quit working by three physicians in 2008 due to physical limitations. I literally can not work my way out of this. I do have a fixed income but inflation will eat that up in fifteen years or so. So, I've developed a financial strategy to move forward. It involves cutting my expenses to the bare bones, paying down the mortgage in the short term, refinancing when the time is right, and then start saving like crazy for when I'll need it down the road.

I know you aren't talking finances here, but finances are the trigger for me to get depressed. If I have jingle in my purse, I'm generally okay. I'm past the pains of transition. But I too was there, where you are once.

I had absolutely no changes from HRT prior to my transition. And I've had not much since. On the morning of my GRS, I wacked off one last time. I had an overwhelming sex drive which drove me absolutely batty. That depressed me on the best day of my life! I had BA in 1986 and they have encapsulated some. I never did develop attractive nipples. But I probably grew a little bit in the following years. My face changed a bit to be more feminine and my skin became softer. I still have a skinny butt made worse by five corrective surgeries from a botched operation on my behind in Chile when I was doing the Mormon cult missionary thang.

There are things about myself that I still don't find attractive. I'm 5'10" but I'm not afraid to wear heels when appropriate. I have broad shoulders so I find tops that look cute on me. Bell sleeves help there. My waist and hips are about the same size. So I've found a brand of jeans that work great for my body shape (thicker waist and narrow hips.) I've posted this before but they are NYDJ. A little pricey but they last a long time. My hair is thinning from age so I've found ways to cut and style it to look nice. I look ghastly in a dress so I don't wear them. I use a light layer of dark shadow blush (brownish) toward my ears and under my jowl. I then smooth it out with a touch of powder the same shade as my skin. This gets rid of some of the old male left in my face. And most importantly, I've lost a lot of weight. I'm probably a bit under where I should be for my height and body shape. My doctors aren't concerned. That helps more than you can ever know. I've found that many women share some of the same physical features if they are skinny.

So, you don't like the way you look. You do have other redeeming qualities though, am I right? You are likely kind, a good listener, generous to others. You probably are a good solid worker and make your own way. Here's the thing. Your appearance won't be an issue down the road. You'll learn to accept what you have. Your other qualities are what matter in the long run. People will value for who you are and not what you look like. Good looks are a shallow excuse for a husband to leave his loving wife and commit adultery.

I've known other trans women who have offed themselves. I knew others who were beaten to death or died from AIDS. All were a great loss to me even though we weren't the best of friends. The world would have been a better place with them in it for many reasons. Some of them were very pretty. But their value was not based on their looks.

You are unique. The fact that you were born in the first place means you are a winner. Think of how many hundreds of those little spermatozoa were competing for that egg. You were the one that beat all the others. Yes, A WINNER.

One of the things I learned when I was working on my MBA is the 80/20 rule. The rule is based on the assumption that a whole lot of minuscule problems are in the 20 percent of the sum. That means by solving just a very few problems, you can knock out 80 percent of the total sum. Now the numbers aren't hard and fast. But take an honest look at your life. List your problems. Find the two or three that make up that 80 percent of your mental burden. Put your looks aside for the moment. Work on that 80 percent. Write some goals. Create objectives to meet those goals. Imagine a post it note attached to your forehead with those objectives written on it. Focus on those. You can get through the tough times by focusing and working on these things.

We all feel depressed from time to time. That's what GID is. Very few of us are exempt. It is those feelings that drive us to a better life. We're here to help. Please. Live for us. Learn to cope and share your experiences for the next group of people going through the same thing. Your life will be enriched by the process. And you will save someone else's life. Isn't that worth living for?

Remember... YOU ARE A WINNER.

Chin up, okay?
Hugs.
Cindi
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stephaniec

dear Cindi I wouldn't say that was not an attempt.
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