When I started acting more masculinely, I started rejecting feminine products such as Dove brand deodorants and the like wanting to opt for more masculine brands like old spice and axe

My dad said I cant do that because like it or not men and women have different body compositions and I need to be using women's deodorant


While I understand the clear biological distinctions and what I do not possess, I still feel thats kind of BS. Seeing as its coming from my parents who have regularly asserted and upheld certain gender standards besides that which I've learned are irrelevant to hygiene and beauty standards (things like shaving or wearing bras)

I know lots of other products are redundantly gendered (like shampoos, lotion, and most ridiculously...toothpaste and yoghurt). And the reason being that its a bit of a marketing tactic for profit, that, and people want to be resolute in their gender (especially cis people) and they use a product to emphasize this. Razers are marketed to men or women and are slightly different in shape and function seeing as males tend to shave faces and females legs and body hair. Although Ive used male razers and theyve worked fairly well for feminine shaving jobs.


So overall...can I keep using my axe spray? Or will I have to resolve into using that soft light blue dove  because Im biologically female

I think its just marketing.

11 Men's Grooming Products That Secretly Work Wonders For Women
http://www.thegloss.com/2014/06/04/beauty/best-mens-grooming-products-for-women/

Try searching google using this, as I got heaps of hits

   female using male deodorant

Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on February 25, 2016, 02:32:25 AM
can I keep using my axe spray?

No. Axe smells terrible 

In all seriousness though, I think it's mostly just marketing schemes to gain more profits. Don't worry too much about what gender a product says it is. It usually comes down to scent or color differences. Just get what looks or smells right to you.

Personally, I do have one reason I stay away from men's deodorant. Men's deodorant usually comes in a clear solid or gel form, both of which leave a nasty rash on my skin. I stick to powder deodorants, which is usually in the women's section, but not always.

Please don't use axe.
Also, deodorant marketed to men and women is a sham, they are essentially the same product. It just depends on whether you want to smell like a human, an axe, or a bunch of flowers. 


     Hugs,
- Katie
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Quote from: Eevee on February 25, 2016, 02:59:54 AM
No. Axe smells terrible 

In all seriousness though, I think it's mostly just marketing schemes to gain more profits. Don't worry too much about what gender a product says it is. It usually comes down to scent or color differences. Just get what looks or smells right to you.

Personally, I do have one reason I stay away from men's deodorant. Men's deodorant usually comes in a clear solid or gel form, both of which leave a nasty rash on my skin. I stick to powder deodorants, which is usually in the women's section, but not always.

Haha, touche I guess x3 I honestly have axe right now because its the first kind I could grab from home before moving out. Id probably branch out to more efficient brands.

Admittedly since men and women's deodorants seem to be the same anyways I guess that means I shouldnt care about which ones I use. But alas, there is very little I can control about my gender so as silly as it is being able to align myself with male clothing and products generally fits my well-being better. Especially seeing how relieving it is to ditch roles I'd been forced to live all my life and being told the lies I was

Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on February 25, 2016, 03:32:21 AM

Haha, touche I guess x3 I honestly have axe right now because its the first kind I could grab from home before moving out. Id probably branch out to more efficient brands.

Admittedly since men and women's deodorants seem to be the same anyways I guess that means I shouldnt care about which ones I use. But alas, there is very little I can control about my gender so as silly as it is being able to align myself with male clothing and products generally fits my well-being better. Especially seeing how relieving it is to ditch roles I'd been forced to live all my life and being told the lies I was

Men's deodorant is usually cheaper anyway


     Hugs,
- Katie
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hello everyone, we have discussed the deodorant issue on this forum before.  But for those readers just tuning in, here's the recap on using such products.  I don't use any!  Two months after starting HRT all body odor ceased and has not returned.  Its a true mystery.  I can work long long stressful days without a hint of odor. My CIS friends can't believe it either.

A little bit of a shame since I like the smell of original scent Secret. Still get pretty sweaty and I do get that not so fresh feeling down there.  But in my case HRT has made the use of deodorant unnecessary. YSMV (your scent may vary)

Thank you,
Anne

I'm in the same boat, OCAnne. When I was still using deodorant I used unscented. The smell of men's deodorant disturbs me.

Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using Tapatalk

Men supposedly sweat more so the deodorants/anti perspirants do seem to be stronger. I compared the ones I used to use (female) with the ones I use now. There's a few that are non-gendered as well that are either weak or strong.

The other thing would be perfumey smells in a deodorant would be noticeable on a guy. Don't think I can use those rose soaps and scent some relative got me any more, as I guess I'm really not supposed to smell of roses out there. Honestly anything strong smelling gets on my nerves anyway so I just go for functionality with deodorant antiperspirants.

Quote from: WolfNightV4X1 on February 25, 2016, 02:32:25 AMMy dad said I cant do that because like it or not men and women have different body compositions and I need to be using women's deodorant

.... 

What does your dad think happens when you wear Axe? That the smell of you is going to confuse everyone nearby? "Kind of BS" is, in my opinion, a very friendly and mild description of his opinion about this.

Yes, scents interact with your natural scent. But in the end scents are just scents and it´s human beings who put a little stamp on it: "for women", "for men", then decorate it with some crap to make it look allegedly really male or female.

So the question is not whether you need scent that has a gender label on it, but one that matches your own scent and you really like.

I believe it is only a fragrance difference too. I went from things like Mennan years ago to Secret and the like. I have read that a secret to men's fragrances is that they contain vanilla. Useless trvia but interesting.

Ok personally I don't use regular deodorant. I use crystal rock deodorant. And the packaging is different between men and women and its the exact same product for both genders. The men's one is bigger cause I guess men have larger hands... it really is all marketing.

My dad says the only deodorant that works for him is secret. And a lot of cis guys have said the same thing.

I use mens razors cause I get a closer shave. My mother always bought only men's razors for the family because regulated longer.
My dad was a chemist and made lotions and all kinds of products. The products are all the same base just different fragrances. We had this discussion the other day. He also mentioned that the aluminum that is used in deodorant is toxic to the lungs while in production and the silica zinc in it is also bad for you. That is why I switched to Crystal rock deodorant. It's approved by the cancer association. It has no fragrance and you run it under your arms right after a shower while they are still wet from your shower. It also lasts about a year since its a rock. Amazon sells it at 3 packs for about $11.

Sent from my SD4930UR using Tapatalk

As a male, I have gone through many deodorant products unable to control my odor by end of day. Since switching to my wifes deodorant two months ago, my wife noted a couple of times my odor issue has disappeared. I am pre HRT but have had out of whack hormone levels for years... low testosterone, high prolactin levels

Pure marketing. In comparing my girlfriend's to mine just now, they have the same active ingredient. Hers is just in a higher percentage (3% higher). They still have the same function, just a different smell. It really just comes down to the scent.

Also, ditch the Axe

Only the scent is different.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Actually, since men tend to sweat more, men's deodorants tend to be stronger/have stronger scents. I can't use women's deodorant because it just wears off, but when I use my right guard (intended for men) I can go more than two days without topping up (to note, it's a 96 hour one, and i really don't sweat much despite binding). My uncle uses women's deodorant because it's more gentle and he doesn't sweat much, and he finds it works better.

  Although, I found in the US the deodorant was basically the same unlike the EU (the difference here is smellable) just with different scents. Over here there's only a few choices in scent that are barely distinguishable, but the selection in the US is huge... I always cave in and buy ridiculously scented products because I can.

Noto Bene: Ditch Axe. Doesn't really work for... anyone, really... and it's more like a body spray. Right guard, old spice, even the adidas brand are all better, last longer, and don't smell as strong. Also, I've seen women mistake Axe for perfume, so it likely doesn't help passing either.

Please don't use Axe, especially Axe body spray, its more "odorant" than deodorant. Most women do not find it very alluring. Go with just about anything else (except Old Spice).

Also, although you are more comfortable with scents people label masculine, your choice of deodorant or other hygiene products will not cause people to misgender you when you are FTM. Its the same basic stuff, different scents, although Secret Powder Fresh has probably worked better for me than anything else before I started spiro and E. Just go with what you like as long as its not Axe or Old Spice.

  I had to answer this. Geez. Please don't use Axe. It smells and those whom raise teenagers knows that stuff gets on the laundry of others and is hard to wash away. Some mothers call it eau de Boy. There are some differences as well with some transwomen and the cis-women. Some of us on Spironolactone has an effect that the sebaceous sweat glands shut down while on the stuff due to its peculiar diuretic effect. What kind of deodorant you use depends what the need is. Some people need a prescription version.

Joelene

What happened to stuff like CK one?

    xoxoxo Winter (15)

Quote from: rachel89 on February 28, 2016, 04:58:18 PM
(except Old Spice).

With you on that one.