in F 2 M voice therapy? Does the T do most of it for you? Is there really such a thing as a male speech pattern?

I haven't heard of ftm voice therapy; T does it for you. As for male speech patterns males speak from the chest and in a more monotone way. They also tend to talk slower and in a less 'excitable' way.

I go from the cheery excitable female speech pattern I learned from a woman I knew as a teenager. People had a hard time accepting my natural serious voice at a long term mental health facility I was put into as a teenager. I didn't think that had anything to do with gender- having a more serious voice. I also laugh really hard at things that usually only men would think were funny and it offended women. I have to keep my sense of humor because its politically incorrect (but not dirty, I'm a gentleman). My dark sense of humor doesn't have anything to do with my beliefs as people have assumed my whole life. Relieved that the T does all the work for me. I shouldn't have any problem with that.

There may be surgery out there that can make the voice lower, but T does most of the work. As far as completely cosmetic plastic surgery and voice surgery for FTMs, I wouldn't recommend even thinking about it until 5 years on T. That is the typical length of puberty. It may go faster if you have a hysterectomy at some point along the line, but in general 5 years is about when you can expect most of your changes to have occurred and your body to be about what it will be.

Speech therapists however may be useful in terms of breaking female speech patterns. I've found it's helpful to watch videos of guys speaking to get a feel for what to do/what to avoid, but some people may need more hands on help.

Men usually tend to speak in a monotonous way. There is no proper inflection in their speech and tend not to finish their sentences in highs i.e. with no real excitement or emotions vehiculed the way it is the case for women.

I haven't heard of voice masculising surgery but if there was such a thing then i'm guessing it would be the reverse of voice feminisation (vocal cords shortening). It would be (if that's ever possible) vocal cords lengthening.

The good news is that T is a very powerful hormone that profuces dramatic results on the voice. I have never met a ftm on T whose voice didn't pass.

Quote from: FTMax on February 29, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
There may be surgery out there that can make the voice lower, but T does most of the work. As far as completely cosmetic plastic surgery and voice surgery for FTMs, I wouldn't recommend even thinking about it until 5 years on T. That is the typical length of puberty. It may go faster if you have a hysterectomy at some point along the line, but in general 5 years is about when you can expect most of your changes to have occurred and your body to be about what it will be.

Speech therapists however may be useful in terms of breaking female speech patterns. I've found it's helpful to watch videos of guys speaking to get a feel for what to do/what to avoid, but some people may need more hands on help.

So if I choose to have all female organs removed from the inside that probably isn't medically necessary and insurance may not cover it? I suspect I'll have to pay out of pocket to have all those organs removed so I can't get female cancers.

Quote from: Ritana on February 29, 2016, 12:28:24 PM
Men usually tend to speak in a monotonous way. There is no proper inflection in their speech and tend not to finish their sentences in highs i.e. with no real excitement or emotions vehiculed the way it is the case for women.

I haven't heard of voice masculising surgery but if there was such a thing then i'm guessing it would be the reverse of voice feminisation (vocal cords shortening). It would be (if that's ever possible) vocal cords lengthening.

The good news is that T is a very powerful hormone that profuces dramatic results on the voice. I have never met a ftm on T whose voice didn't pass.

Interesting. Thanks for your input.

Quote from: alienbodybuilder on February 29, 2016, 06:09:13 PM

Quote from: FTMax on February 29, 2016, 11:38:33 AM
There may be surgery out there that can make the voice lower, but T does most of the work. As far as completely cosmetic plastic surgery and voice surgery for FTMs, I wouldn't recommend even thinking about it until 5 years on T. That is the typical length of puberty. It may go faster if you have a hysterectomy at some point along the line, but in general 5 years is about when you can expect most of your changes to have occurred and your body to be about what it will be.

Speech therapists however may be useful in terms of breaking female speech patterns. I've found it's helpful to watch videos of guys speaking to get a feel for what to do/what to avoid, but some people may need more hands on help.

So if I choose to have all female organs removed from the inside that probably isn't medically necessary and insurance may not cover it? I suspect I'll have to pay out of pocket to have all those organs removed so I can't get female cancers.

If you're talking about a hysterectomy, I had everything taken out, and it was all covered by insurance because I'm trans and it's a prerequisite for bottom surgery for the procedures I want done.

As far as voice surgery, I doubt it would be covered by insurance.

Quote from: FTMax on February 29, 2016, 07:27:28 PM
As far as voice surgery, I doubt it would be covered by insurance.

Voice surgery wouldn't work for a FTM unless you wanted to shift your pitch back to the feminine range. My voice surgery wasn't covered by insurance because of the type of surgery but others voice issues such as repairing a damaged voice might be covered.