Quote from: meh on July 18, 2010, 05:11:44 PM
I don't think I could date a theist or anyone claiming to be spiritual. Atheism is just one of those things that we both have to have in common to be able to be in a relationship. I can't see how atheists and theists make it work in a relationship.

I found this funny button pin the other day that said "I only date atheists". haha I need to get that.

Been there, tried it. It always becomes a source of contention so no, not again.

I agree that it's about values. I think I would sooner date a theist who shares my main values (the ones I will not compromise on) then someon who has a critical conflict with me in those values. I do think that most fundamental religious people, or people who prescribe blindly to the views of a church and judge good/evil (black and white thinking) will almost always clash with me on these values. The moment someone start judgjing people by a book telling them, or for not prescribing to their idea of what's right I'm out. I try to be accepting and show respect for everyones views and beliefs (so long they don't harm others) so I would have a hard time with a partner who judges so harshly.
I think I woud have a problem with a fundamental extremist 'anything' really. There always multiple sides to a story and I'd have a hard time with a person who can only see their own.

I have difficulty taking them seriously and would always regard myself as ideologically superior, so probably not. That's not to say I wouldn't lead an extremely one-sided, short-term thing based on my own interests, however, particularly if desperate.

Uh I have and at times their truth has came out ...


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My thoughts? If anyone cares? Who cares who you date as there is compatibility? There are Deists that aren't religious and atheist that are. Yeah, before I get hit with rotten tomatoes please tell me that atheism isn't a rebellion against organized religions. The Church of Satan founded by Anton Le Vey was more or less atheist. No Satan and no God. Do I believe in God? I am starting to think, not so much. Do I believe in Satan? No. When I leave this world there will be a new Devil. Why serve in heaven when You can rule in Hell? If according to some we are evil or condemned being trans and so on I will take responsibility. I will gladly burn for others. But I don't believe that is the case. But even if so I will gladly accept it. That is how strongly I feel about it.

Why because I still believe that good is stronger than evil. Do I believe in God, not really anymore, or at least I don't know. Do I believe good and treating people with dignity and respect, most definitely. If I'm wrong I will gladly burn in hell for eternity if it helps someone to see the positivity in themselves, the uniqueness in themselves to see the love of themselves within themselves. Not to mention the ability to love someone and everyone else. If I have to burn in hell for eternity for that. So be it. I will just spend and eternity in a proverbial hell. I really don't care.

I will bet that transgenders are probably the closest to being more complete human beings and closer to Divinity than anyone else. That is all I will say from a spiritual standpoint. If I am wrong I will gladly  go to the seventh level of Hell in a fictional book called Dante's Inferno that was written long after the bible.

So would I date a theist, you bet I would. Would I date an atheist, again, you bet I would. I don't care what a person believes as long as they believe I'm the right one for them. I think we put too much emphasis on either and or instead of learning form each other. I have learned from both and I have loved from both sides of the argument in which shouldn't even be an argument anyway. We, none of us will know until after we take our last breath and then 6 minutes after. Why miss out on the possible love of your life because of beliefs that can't be proven?

So who would I date? Anyone that treated me with respect, treated me like a queen and loved me for who and what I am. Right now anything else is a fairytale or fantasy or dream. If I date someone that he or she don't believe in heaven or hell, he or she can take me to heaven and back or "hell" which I can kind of enjoy. but treat me like a queen otherwise. Then that is what is important. Not what people believe what happens when after they die. Death is a sad thing. Why argue about what happens after?

All you do is limit yourself to who loves you and who you love. And love is an in the moment thing. Heaven or hell don't matter. Live in the moment. Be happy in the moment. That is heaven. If it turns to bad then that is hell. Forget about eternity, that will take care of itself. No matter what.

Yep Crazy Jess is at it again. but tell me I am wrong. Someone please. Other than a theist or atheist. Wow that don't leave too many people does it. So anyone, tell me if I'm wrong.

But please, don't miss out on love because of beliefs that can't be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Quote from: meh on July 18, 2010, 05:11:44 PM
I don't think I could date a theist or anyone claiming to be spiritual. Atheism is just one of those things that we both have to have in common to be able to be in a relationship. I can't see how atheists and theists make it work in a relationship.

I found this funny button pin the other day that said "I only date atheists". haha I need to get that.

I'm open to most people. The only type of person I absolutely couldn't date are..."Agnostics". The kind of people who are atheist, but wont own it because they think atheism is a dirty word. God I can't stand that sort of thing. Whoever you are, whatever you believe...please...own it.

Quote from: AnonBear on November 08, 2014, 09:24:06 PM
I'm open to most people. The only type of person I absolutely couldn't date are..."Agnostics". The kind of people who are atheist, but wont own it because they think atheism is a dirty word. God I can't stand that sort of thing. Whoever you are, whatever you believe...please...own it.

I'm agnostic and not because I believe atheism is a dirty word but because absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence. I own it. 

Quote from: Wynternight on November 08, 2014, 09:32:17 PM
I'm agnostic and not because I believe atheism is a dirty word but because absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence. I own it.

Ditto. That's exactly how and what I own.

I'm also agnostic, and that's not because I think atheist is a dirty word either. I have my own reasons to identify that way and I'm honest and open about that.

I don't see why you would believe in something some old men wrote down because they couldn't explain it with facts.
However, as long as I wouldn't have to participate in the "rituals" I would be fine with it. It would probably create some problems anyhow though ...

Sure, I could date someone with a belief in something. But it'd have to be low key, not dictating their lives and mine by proxy. A 'private' sort of belief, not a public display and I'd be fine with. After all I don't go to atheist church, eat atheist food, or need to point out God's seeming lack of interest in the human race any chance I get. If someone else were to keep their beliefs similarly to themselves, then cool.

Couldn't date any sort of fundamentalist. That's when it gets ridiculous and I start to laugh, and not just because that word contains the word 'mentalist.'

I wouldn't be able to keep my opinion to myself. It would never last.

I'm married to a Christian, but I don't hold that against her, simply because I used to be Catholic (but, then I learned). She still asks every now and then if I could see myself believing in god again, to which I say, "Perhaps, but not likely. I've got this little thing called skepticism that prevents me from believing everything that people say is true." Then, she leaves it alone for a while. I can't help but feel like she's fighting a struggle within herself; that she's trying to reconcile her beliefs with her feelings for me. I've told her on multiple occasions that if, at any time, she feels that she can't be happy with me, I'd respect her decision to leave because she deserves to be happy as much as I do. So, yes, I could see myself dating a theist, but I also could not see myself dating an atheist who makes it a point to make people feel negatively about themselves for believing in what they do. I think honest and respectful discussion is the best way to reach understanding. If they're too staunch in their beliefs to continue dating me, then I don't have any hard feelings about it.

Depends on the type of theism. Someone who just believes in a creator, I wouldn't be able to understand, but I think we could date. A Christian, probably not. Don't get me wrong here, it's not because I'm intolerant of their beliefs... It's actually kind of the opposite. It's for the same reason I haven't told my parents I'm an atheist - it's because, to a Christian, me being a nonbeliever - at the very least - means that I will not get into heaven, or worse.

I would NOT want someone who loves me to have to deal with such worries. It would surely depress them, and it would probably create conflict - conflict that I couldn't really argue with, because I understand why it's bothering them.

But what do I know? I haven't dated in, like, forever. And I've never dated a Christian.

No, its a major red flag for me.

Only a Pastafarian that has been touched by his noodly appendage.

R'amen.

I believe in infinite universes. With infinite universes comes infinite laws of physics which will allow an infinite number of universes that have the physics to allow an all powerful being. Due to the nature of infinity that 'god' has the possibility of conquering any other universe.

By believing in this I cannot be an atheist, but am I a theist? And would you date someone with this belief.

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As far as dating goes, I would say no. I wouldn't turn down a friendship over it, but I couldn't see myself being romantically involved with one.

Several years ago, I dated a woman briefly.  Things were going fine until she invited me to her church.  I said I had no use for that nonsense.  For some reason, we never went out again.

I also had a friend in high school.  He was a great guy, until he turned 16 and started bible thumping.  I found out from him that because I wasn't going to his church (I was attending a different denomination at the time) I wasn't going to heaven!  While religion appeared more and more hokey, as I got older, that was probably the turning point where I came to the conclusion religion is absolute nonsense and a nonsense that's all too often used against others.

QuoteShe wants me to listen to her point of view, but refuses to listen to mine and she thinks that's okay.

That's typical of many "believers".  If you don't believe what they believe, you're wrong.  The church and other religious groups have a long history of using it to justify extreme violence.

QuoteAs an atheist, how do you solve the problem of the formation of the universe?  Theism and atheism both require a first cause to explain the universe.

QuoteThat's all well and dandy.  But I'm still waiting for an explanation of the formation of the universe (with or without a god) which is rational.

What we know of the universe is based on observation and fact.  While we might never know the entire picture, that simply means we don't have all the evidence.  It does not mean there's some divine being controlling things.