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Do you at least minimally like being trans

Started by stephaniec, March 05, 2016, 10:12:23 PM

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do you at least at a minimum like being trans

absolutely
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somewhat
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absolutely not
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Deborah

I've been thinking about this since I answered last night and thought I might add something.  There actually is one positive I think that comes out of being trans for me although it's kind of an indirect positive.

My parents told me in so many words that was insane when I was 13.  Then very soon after they sent me away to a military school.  So I basically left home when I was 13 and although they said they were doing it for the education, at least to me at the time it seemed pretty obvious why their sudden interest in military school.  I remained pretty stoic through those months but honestly it hurt a lot and at the time I internalized the blame for the rejection on to myself.

Anyway, the immediate effect on me was to internalize an extreme drive to prove myself to them and probably also to myself.  So, I set out at age 13 to prove that I wasn't worthless and insane.

Now, before that I was pretty average and marginally overweight.  I sucked horribly at sports (an understatement) and was pretty average in school.  I was bullied occasionally and terribly shy to the point of extreme anxiety around new people.

So at age 13 on arriving at a military school 2000 miles from home and being now away from home for the first time, and as it turned out permanently, I set out to reinvent and myself and prove I was worth something.  It became an insatiable drive and it worked.  When I graduated at age 17 I was valedictorian, class president, three varsity sports letters and MVP on the football team, president of several school organizations, and commander of the junior ROTC.  I also got a 100% everything covered scholarship to a pretty exclusive federal college where I went and then later graduated from.

I'm not trying to wave my own flag here but rather to illustrate just how profound a metamorphosis occurred in me almost overnight.  And thinking back on it most can be directly traced to being trans because many of those things, especially the sports, I didn't really want to do but felt a drive to do them anyway.  My coach told my parents my senior year that I had no real talent but that I simply worked harder and more intently than anybody else.  Even the academics were affected because I really hated studying but felt driven to study just hard enough to keep my grades at the top of the class.  I even taught myself not to be shy or at least to fake it enough so other people couldn't tell.    I had to prove myself in every way I could imagine.

So that's what being trans did to me and I suppose it was a good thing.

The ironic thing is that the trans was there in my mind all along and never even slightly faded although I strongly suspect that getting rid of it was one of my parents' primary motivations.  I will say though that when you spend eight years immersed in environments comparible to the military academy of ancient Sparta, nearly 40% of my entire life at the time, that you learn quickly to cope and bury this very deeply so that while it never leaves the conscious mind it is allowed not the slightest expression of any kind.   To allow even a hint to escape would have been disaster in that time and place and would have instantly unraveled the intricate web I was weaving.  I didn't hate myself because of it nor was I really ashamed in any way.  I did however greatly fear the consequences of anybody else knowing.

I'm not sure if I found myself or if I lost myself during that time.  Maybe it was a little bit of both.  I don't think I will ever know.
Love is not obedience, conformity, or submission. It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being....  - Dan Barker

U.S. Army Retired
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Violets

I get no enjoyment out of being this way. It's a curse actually, though I only have this view due to the way that historically we've been viewed by society.

I know who I am and that my gender identity is innate, I'm not confused, insane, a sexual deviant, or any of the things haters incorrectly believe that trans people are... but I still fear being seen by society at large as 'different' because it has caused, and continues to cause so many issues. Although society is gradually beginning to understand us, I still feel embarrassed and at times fearful of the repercussions of people knowing I'm trans. Because of fear and/or embarrassment, I'm only out to family and my inner circle of friends, and (as yet) never present publicly as female...though I am gradually pushing those boundaries now as my hair grows and the HRT works its magic.


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KyleeKrow

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Swayallday

I don't mind that much, everything is in place to make me feel better albeit I do feel incompetent a lot.
the only thing I dislike is how a few persons end up treating me
or caring about their opinions which holds me back.
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Matthew

Personally, being trans means experiencing dysphoria - something I wouldn't wish on the worst person. While it can be rewarding, years and years of hating myself has made me resent the fact that I was born this way.

I respect people who are able to love their history - however with me it is associated with too much pain.
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HappyMoni

It's all about the direction. If I could be cis female I'd hate being trans. If I had to be a "normal" male, I'd love being trans. Bottom line is that after I get through a lot of the "firsts" of transitioning, I will be more relaxed and really be proud to be trans. I wonder how responses would change if the question became, "In a society that accepts trans people, would you like being transgender?
Moni
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stephaniec

I can understand not liking to be trans, but because I am and I've dealt with this all my life I accept it and embrace it because it's not going to change and I can't be any other way. I've got a long history of presenting male and I've never ever liked it, but the reality is it's who  I happen to be. I've said this many times and I really believe it that having being an all out Hippie paved my way to acceptance of myself. Being trans might have been the reason for searching out the Hippie life style , which I think was the reason I embraced being hippie and it's also The reason I embrace being trans.
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Deborah

I wanted to be a hippie too but that was forbidden to me, first by my parents and later by circumstances.  Soooo, now I'm partly living my hippie years I missed the first time around. LOL


Sapere Aude
Love is not obedience, conformity, or submission. It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being....  - Dan Barker

U.S. Army Retired
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Emileeeee

Both I guess.

There's a lot of information I wouldn't have been taught and people I wouldn't know if I wasn't trans. I also probably know more about myself than most people do about themselves. That's about it. I hate everything else.
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stephaniec

Quote from: Deborah on March 06, 2016, 03:37:11 PM
I wanted to be a hippie too but that was forbidden to me, first by my parents and later by circumstances.  Soooo, now I'm partly living my hippie years I missed the first time around. LOL


Sapere Aude
yeah sister
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April_TO

Yes but I'm still struggling with my own internalized shame and guilt of being trans. Some days are good and some days are bad. I would consider my transition to be a little bit easier than others in the context of not receiving negative reactions from strangers etch. but not a day goes by that I question if my decision to live my truth was the right thing to do. There's still so much uncertainty and the path for me is still not clear.

- April
Nothing ventured nothing gained
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kittenpower

I am fine with being transgender, but it took a long time to feel this way (it has been a recent epiphany).  I used to cringe at the thought of anyone knowing my trans status, but now I don't mind, and I don't have a problem telling people I am. I think my self-acceptance is because for the most part I am happy with how I look; I'm not saying I look perfectly female, and there are improvements I want to make, but overall I am satisfied with my presentation, voice, walk, mannerisms, etc., And another reason is because I like who I am, and I am proud of my accomplishments; including my transformation.
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stephaniec

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sparrow

When I feel safe and accepted, I love being trans.  When people are dumb about stuff, I'm annoyed with them (and not being trans).  I just love being me.  One thing I love about giving up on fitting in to the binary is that I feel completely free to live without defining myself.  Where most people are often forced into a single option because of their gender, I often find that I have two.  That's highly liberating.  At other times (washrooms) when I feel like neither option fits... and that goes back to being annoyed with people being dumb about stuff... and not being annoyed by my gender.
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stephaniec

bathrooms can definitely be a conundrum .
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stephaniec

Quote from: warlockmaker on March 06, 2016, 03:55:46 AM
I also grew up in the hippie generation...thus I don't drink and prefer my green herbs..also tried every psychedelic drug including getting spiritual with pyote.

Always looked for the positives in life...I'm proud to be Trans and would not want anything to change.  I get to live two lives...what a treat
I must say your looking quite lovely .
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Melanie CT

I like being transgender but I hate hiding myself. Like Deborah said it made me push myself to prove myself as male which has given me benefits in life  but now being 54 I'm sick of hiding myself. I think about being transgender from the time I wake up until I go to sleep. It has given me such depression that 3 different anti depressants haven't gotten under control   

I'm taking a low dose of estrogen which made me feel better but the depression is still there. I try to feel good for awhile and then the depression builds up and explodes again.

I go to a therapist and it seems like I'm telling her the right things to be a good patient but it doesn't work.

My wife and daughters know and my sister and it's never talked about. The big elephant in the room.

I'm traveling in Asia right now. Got here yesterday and will be here for two weeks which leaves me a lot of time on my own to think about myself

I'm sorry for the rant. I do like what being transgender has done for me. It made me more creative, caring, empathetic and loving pretty things. I just need to love and accept myself.


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stephaniec

acceptance was definitely the key for me.
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JS UK

The only positive I can think of is that I get to choose my own name.

Apart from that it's wrecked my life and damaged the lives of those close to me. I really don't see any positive to growing up having to pretend you're something that you're not.

Jx
If you want to walk on water you've got to get out of the boat!
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KarlMars

Quote from: JS UK on March 07, 2016, 06:32:36 AM
The only positive I can think of is that I get to choose my own name.

Apart from that it's wrecked my life and damaged the lives of those close to me. I really don't see any positive to growing up having to pretend you're something that you're not.

Jx

Biology made the mistake, not you.