Quote from: Ave on September 13, 2012, 09:16:50 PM
beautiful penis?

pics or it didn't happen! (kidding!)

I kinda like the idea that it didn't happen ^_^ .

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on September 11, 2012, 06:24:52 PM
Really? Penises are beautiful on the other hand?

Yeah, For whats on my body, I think a penis and scrotum are about as ugly as genitals can get, a beautiful vagina though, sigh...

This is good news to me, I just kind of assumed that all of that stopped working... I am beginning HRT in the new year, and I thought I'd be saying goodbye completely to functionality, and although I'm not completely opposed to SRS, I am only planning to go as far as HRT at the moment. Not that I'm in love with my junk, but it wouldn't be bad if it remained functional.

I have been on E & P for about 4 years, for the first 3 1/2 years I got them off the internet but about 5 months ago I came out and got a Dr. who prescribed both E & P. Like many of you I do not get spontaneous erections and my sex drive, at least the sex drive as I used to know it is gone. My testicals have shrunken to at least half of their previous size and my penis is now inverted to not much more than a rather large clitoris.

That all being said I am married to a CIS female who supports what I am but still has a need for M/F intercourse. So I asked my Dr for viagra and he was happy to oblige. I have found that they do work, however it take a little longer to kick in (30-40 min) and when erect, my penis only gets to about 3" long. I also feel some pain near the base but I find that it is not enough to stop doing what I am doing. My penis will stay hard for 30-45 minutes and I can orgasm but the volume of fluid is minimal (but the intensity is outstanding!)

I can have orgasms without being erect by masturbating much like a CIS female. using two fingers inserted into the skin around my inverted penis, I actually prefer it this way. I can obtain erections without the use of Viagra however it takes a lot of time and energy to achieve them and they go away rather quickly even with stimulation.

Please feel free to comment...

Wendy

What would happen if a F2M took one of those? Would it make my genitals more male looking?

No.

Update on this:

4 years on HRT, orchi in late Dec 2015...Viagra and Cialis no longer produce good results, indeed they never did, at best it firmed things up enough to allow penetration without any size increase.

Although I do get pretty dysphoric, if I put that aside I can actually get "hard enough", but the size is still smaller than pre-HRT.

Like was said earlier, it's embarrassing. My wife makes do with whatever I can achieve, but *I* know what things were like before (even though she doesn't).

The big question (no pun intended) is, "if I could get as big+hard as I was, would I still want SRS, or would I keep the male parts?"

Fortunately I have 15 months to think about it and to talk it over with my therapist. I'm inclined to get SRS, mainly because I don't like the dangly bits at any time other than full-boner+orgasm (and the orgasm isn't the male one, it's a female surge but with a large clitoral O).

I have a cis female girlfriend who enjoys penetrative sex, and I enjoy it too so maintaining functionality is important. At 7 months HRT it's rare for me to ever get hard enough to have sex though. It does happen sometimes, but usually I can only stay hard for a few minutes before softening. I asked my doctor about Cialis but without insurance it came out to like $500 for ten pills so that didn't work out. However, I have found a solution: "male performance" herbal aphrodisiacs. They sell them in most sex stores and you can buy them them online about $5-10 a pill. They work just like Viagra or Cialis insofar as they are vasodilators. They really work. I like the brand "Alpha Man 3000" (though I hate the name obviously). I use it about once a week with my girlfriend to great success - I take it about 1-2 hours before sex and I can have sex like I did pre-HRT. Sometimes it lasts until the next day. The mental game is still really important but because it's a vasodilator there is a physical mechanism that works very reliably so long as you are aroused from foreplay.

Estrogen is also vasodilator.

Cardiovasc Res. 2006 Mar 1;69(4):777-80.

"There is an abundance of scientific evidence for the protective effect of estrogen against atherosclerosis, such as short-term vasodilating effects"

Biochem Pharmacol. 2013 Dec 15;86(12):1627-42

"Acute administration of estrogen in female or male patients improves vasodilator responses"

"Estrogen also enhances the release of vasodilator substances such as nitric oxide (NO) and prostacyclin (PGI2), and decreases the production and effects of vasoconstrictors such as endothelin (ET-1) and angiotensin II (AngII) [1,2]."

Horm Mol Biol Clin Investig. 2014 May;18(2):89-103.

"Estrogens physiologically stimulate the release of endothelium-derived vasodilator factors and inhibit the renin-angiotensin system."

Lancet. 1993 Jul 17;342(8864):133-6.

"Acute administration of oestradiol-17 beta therefore has a beneficial effect on myocardial ischaemia in women with coronary artery disease. This effect may be due to a direct coronary-relaxing effect, to peripheral vasodilation, or to a combination of these mechanisms."

Progesterone, as well.

Steroids. 2003 Nov;68(10-13):831-6.

"Recent work looking at the additional effects of natural progesterone or MPA on coronary blood flow and myocardial ischemia in postmenopausal women shows that progesterone has synergistic vasodilatory effects when added to estrogens [26]."

I am post-op with very low T, I get engorged in the genital area when aroused and had there been a penis there, it would have certainly been erect. I don't think low T causes penis not to be erect but rather it can either be due to improper blood circulation which can be improved by estrogen/progesterone or to lack of arousal.

Quote...Sometimes it lasts until the next day....

Doe this mean it's erect for many hours, or does it come and go as desired?

Quote...but without insurance it came out to like $500 for ten pills so that didn't work out...

I got both V and C from my Dr, he had coupons for free samples. Group Health doesn't accept them, but most other pharmacies will. My endo was also able to give me 8 V tablets "to see if they work."

Quote from: Beth Andrea on March 24, 2016, 06:00:38 AM
Doe this mean it's erect for many hours, or does it come and go as desired?

No it's not a constant boner for hours. It's more like, when I am aroused I get hard. But my arousal doesn't last for hours. It comes and goes.

Rev Endocr Metab Disord. 2015 Sep;16(3):177-98.

"5α-DHT plays a key role in erectile physiology [96–100] (Table 1). Castrated animals exhibit poor erectile response and T or 5α-DHT treatment reverses this effect on erectile physiology [101]. Administration of the 5α-Rs inhibitor 17β-testosterone carboxylic acid (17βTC) to castrated animals blocked the stimulatory effects of T propionate (TP) on erection [97, 102]. Administration of 5α-DHT with or without 17βTC, restored sexual behavior in long-term castrated male rats and mice suggesting a critical role for 5α-DHT in erectile physiology [103]. Treatment with T together with finasteride did not restore erectile response in castrated animals while administration of 5α-DHT together with finasteride restored nitric oxide synthase expression and activity and also restored the erectile response to electric field stimulation [104]."

"Castration in male animals eliminates non-contact erections and this response was restored by 5α-DHT implantation [105, 106]. Reduced erectile response and reflex erections were observed in castrated animals and treatment of castrated animals with T or 5α-DHT restored the number of erectile responses and reflex erections [107]. However, only 5α-DHT restored erectile responses and reflex erections, when animals were treated with daily injections of the 5α-Rs inhibitor MK-434 (1 mg/kg) together with T or 5α-DHT [107]."

"preclinical studies demonstrated that finasteride and dutasteride have a significant pathogenic impact on penile histo-architecture, and attenuate the nitric oxide synthase (NOS) signaling pathway. Thus, these drugs are likely to contribute to erectile dysfunction (ED) via well-established and characterized mechanisms [94, 95]."

Thus, DHT like estradiol appear to be both vasodilators and promote erection. If DHT is reduced, an adequate compensatory increase in estradiol should suffice to restore erection.

Quote from: RachelsMantra on March 23, 2016, 06:34:19 PM
I have a cis female girlfriend who enjoys penetrative sex, and I enjoy it too so maintaining functionality is important. At 7 months HRT it's rare for me to ever get hard enough to have sex though. It does happen sometimes, but usually I can only stay hard for a few minutes before softening. I asked my doctor about Cialis but without insurance it came out to like $500 for ten pills so that didn't work out. However, I have found a solution: "male performance" herbal aphrodisiacs. They sell them in most sex stores and you can buy them them online about $5-10 a pill. They work just like Viagra or Cialis insofar as they are vasodilators. They really work. I like the brand "Alpha Man 3000" (though I hate the name obviously). I use it about once a week with my girlfriend to great success - I take it about 1-2 hours before sex and I can have sex like I did pre-HRT. Sometimes it lasts until the next day. The mental game is still really important but because it's a vasodilator there is a physical mechanism that works very reliably so long as you are aroused from foreplay.

Are there any alternates to Alpha Man 3000? They aren't available where I live. What about vigrx plus or something similar to that?