Quote from: Peep on March 27, 2016, 10:36:58 AM
I've gone a bit more masc than maybe I would have if i was cis to make sure I don't get read as female (from clothing anyway... i'm still short and my binder game is not strong)

The thing is i was never very feminine, but when i came out everyone said i was! I used to wear leggings with holes in them under big shirts or loose dresses, and i would wear the same thing for weeks because i hated choosing what to wear. everything was black

I still wear black now tbh i can't seem to break the habit. i know that jersey fabrics and tshirts (knits rather than weaves) don't conceal my chest very wel,l but i don't really like collared shirts, particularly checked or plaid ones which seems to be the only option these days unless you want a really smart looking one, which doesn't really go with paint stained jeans? lol

i have one hoodie that has a print on it that's kind of rigid and makes me look flatter so i pretty much wear that constantly. i always think it's pointless to buy interesting tshirts because the constant hoodie wearing means no one sees them anyway

Me too (not the short but binder issues -my breasts are H cup, they only flatten so much)...
My mom reminds me regularly that in my teens I only wore black because everything else was too "girly"... my colour palette has expanded... I now wear navy blue, some red and green....still boring and not stylish. I'm in my mid 30s but don't dress like a grown up... but neither do the cis men I hang out with.

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Thank you! And it depends on where you get them from. I just buy women's leggings, mostly from WalMart. I don't drive so I walk everywhere and they've all held up pretty good!

Quote from: williamspace on March 27, 2016, 01:15:19 PM
Honestly... I'm so jealous of everyone who can get away with dressing masculine. I, however, am a mess. Here are some of my outfits over the past few months. Recent to less recent but as you can see, I don't really follow any style lmao.

You have style. That style is COLOR, and I love it.

A splattering of outfits I've worn since I started documenting my changes. I'm not the best at explaining how I dress so I thought a picture would serve better.

I'd say I dress in whatever feels and looks good to me. 
So as of right now, t-shirts, hoodies, sweaters, jackets, and jeans.

I'm not out yet and I still live with my parents so my wardrobe is extremely limited right now but I avoid looking too feminine as much as I possibly can.  Although I'm guilty of finding many feminine articles of clothing very nice and I end up buying things that I can potentially work into a more masculine outfit.  Sometimes it works and at other times it doesn't.  But I try nonetheless. 

Ideally, I would like to wear more rebellious outfits and have a mostly black wardrobe. 
I've always been in love with the edgier fashion styles. 

My Pinterest board covers it all:
https://www.pinterest.com/artisanfreedom/all-about-mens-casual-fashion/

Quote from: Guile on March 26, 2016, 08:36:22 PM
I typically wear men's jeans and t-shirts or polo shirts. Unfortunately t-shirts tend to give away your chest if your binder doesn't compress you into a perfectly natural shape (like mine, darn C's) but the collar of the polos and the way the arms fit help to imply a more "male" look. If my hips weren't so wide I'd go a bit dressier, with proper trousers, button-up shirts and a waistcoat from time to time. As it stands, unfortunately, men's trousers just don't look good on me, so I grudgingly avoid them for the time being.

I <not allowed>feel you.
Squeezing DDs into a binder and trying to wear anything that looks nice is a <not allowed> fantasy.  Always a few bumps here and there that make it painfully obvious that I've got a chest being squeezed to death underneath it all.  I've also just given up entirely on the male pants that actually look nice because my butt and hips are leagues away from ever fitting into a pair.  Oh well.

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Quote from: A/ex on March 29, 2016, 01:14:41 AM
I <not allowed>feel you.
Squeezing DDs into a binder and trying to wear anything that looks nice is a <not allowed> fantasy.  Always a few bumps here and there that make it painfully obvious that I've got a chest being squeezed to death underneath it all.  I've also just given up entirely on the male pants that actually look nice because my butt and hips are leagues away from ever fitting into a pair.  Oh well.

Sitting with a G cup here. And yeah, it isn't easy to compress that much tissue. The key - at least as far as I'm concerned - is to layer. But not with bulk. I get clothes that fit appropriately now and stack those. Structured fabric also helps. Things are too clingy don't work at all. For example, I wear hoodies at home, in my apartment, because they are comfortable. But they do cling to my shape, and buying baggy doesn't actually help. Then I look like I'm trying to cover something up. For work, for light outer wear, I have a very square black heavy canvas jacket that is broad across the shoulders and narrows to my hips. My shape is completely covered, altered, and I got it in an appropriate size. And I think I look good, in fact. Am I ever going to be as flat as I like, pre surgery? Not a chance. But there are ways to disguise it and feel good about yourself.

Hi -- I've been lurking on the boards for a while, working up the nerve to jump in...

I'm not out at work yet, so I'm always looking for more ways to push the limits of what I've taken to calling my "costume" without being too obvious.  Mostly, it's women's jeans and button-downs with men's sweaters and vans.  I throw in a blazer and slacks when I have meetings out of the office.

At home, I've been living in too many hoodies with men's jeans and t-shirts.  There's also a lifelong love of button-downs over t-shirts going on.  I love slim-fit button down shirts, but they don't love my chest or hips.  My men's wardrobe is still very small, and the focus is still mostly on figuring out how to layer things to best hide my DDDs.

Quote from: williamspace on March 27, 2016, 01:15:19 PM
Honestly... I'm so jealous of everyone who can get away with dressing masculine. I, however, am a mess. Here are some of my outfits over the past few months. Recent to less recent but as you can see, I don't really follow any style lmao.

I would call your style funky and bright.  It looks like you aren't afraid to wear bold colors -- more power to you for that.  I think the most important thing is that you like and rock what you wear.  If you take notice of what you specifically like about your favorite clothes, you might start to notice a pattern that helps you develop your style.

Quote from: MercenaryElf on March 30, 2016, 11:10:50 PM
Hi -- I've been lurking on the boards for a while, working up the nerve to jump in...

I'm not out at work yet, so I'm always looking for more ways to push the limits of what I've taken to calling my "costume" without being too obvious.  Mostly, it's women's jeans and button-downs with men's sweaters and vans.  I throw in a blazer and slacks when I have meetings out of the office.

Does your work think your straight or gay? If it's gay it's super easy to just dress like a dude. They will just think you're butch. I'm pretty sure only one of my managers suspects anything and that's because she knows I'm getting top surgery and she has a ftm friend and we have an mtf resident.
I personally don't see a major difference in men's skinny jeans and women's normal jeans. They will still hug you but it's less accented so if you want to switch to men's pants it should be subtle also.
Men's button downs will fit your chest better especially if you have a binder. I'm a 36 D and it doesn't get extremely flat but it does the job well enough. Work clothes are kinda easy to transition in if you already wear the lady suits and stuff

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Also going to chip in and back up Haeden. Have some extra input for MercenaryElf too.

As long as you find nice good fitting clothes that go along with your personal style, I'll doubt anyone will notice a change. you would be surprised at how many people will still assume you are a straight female while in all men's clothes and with masculine mannerisms.
No one said anything and I was still hit on by straight men when I switched to an all men's clothes wardrobe. This went on for years before I was able to start T.
This may have to do with the fact a lot of straight women actually do shop in the men's section for comfort or style.

No one is going to notice unless you change your personal look drastically overnight. For example, dressing supper preppy then turning around and suddenly wearing a more gangster look.

Even if someone pegged you as gay, most people are too polite to say anything.

Thanks, Haeden and WanderingFace, for the input.

Quote from: WanderingFace on March 31, 2016, 04:07:48 PM
No one is going to notice unless you change your personal look drastically overnight. For example, dressing supper preppy then turning around and suddenly wearing a more gangster look.

That's probably what makes me a little paranoid.  In the last year or so before I finally came out to myself, I overcompensated and dressed uncharacteristically (and uncomfortably) very feminine, so I find myself fielding comments about how I haven't been wearing all of my "cute little tops and shoes" for a while.  Luckily, I've been working there for a few years and have established myself as having more masculine mannerisms and preferences, so after a while, it'll probably be easier to pass the femme thing off as the brief phase that it was for me.

Quote from: haeden on March 31, 2016, 02:26:21 PM
I personally don't see a major difference in men's skinny jeans and women's normal jeans. They will still hug you but it's less accented so if you want to switch to men's pants it should be subtle also.
Men's button downs will fit your chest better especially if you have a binder. I'm a 36 D and it doesn't get extremely flat but it does the job well enough. Work clothes are kinda easy to transition in if you already wear the lady suits and stuff

My first binders came in last week, and I still can't believe how much nicer my evening/weekend clothes look when I'm wearing one.  I'll have to compare how the skinny jeans look vs. my typical work jeans -- it would be nice to wear men's pants to work.

Honestly pants are so easy to pass in. I didn't think it would be at first either but I remember I was talking to someone I think before I came out as gay (not sure when it was. I don't think it matters tho) and we were talking about how it's so annoying how girl pants have either small pockets or fake pockets and the rage it brought us. I had told her that's why I loved the jeans I was wearing because they were guy jeans and had deep pockets. She was shocked that they were men's pants and was jealous that the pockets were so deep too lol. After that I switched completely to men's pants and never looked back

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To be honest I wish I had your confidence, because I've been so dysphoric that I've started living in pants. But usually I wear all kinds of skirts, dresses, pants and heavy make up, just that I've been very dysphoric and I got my stp so I've been dressing up a bit more boring these days. But that will pass and I will have make up on my face again.

Typically I wear jeans, cargo pants, shirts and tees on most days because most days I'm at work in my studio and clothes get wrecked when playing around with clay, plaster, paint, etc.

I'm generally dressing functional/comfort as I work pretty much constantly and spontaneously.

Hey guys...

I'm not seen too much during my work days. But I checked on this and I just wanted to say that you all look fabulous. Honestly like, it sucks because yesterday I got misgendered first thing (per usual) and I had to wear a bra because I'm not happy with the way my binders fit and it wasn't... too bad?

I mean I still wish to pass but I don't so these are the next best things... being sort of okay with yourself.

I'm still jealous of you all and I'd give anything to be any one of you. Keep keepin on.

Quote from: haeden on March 31, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
Honestly pants are so easy to pass in. I didn't think it would be at first either but I remember I was talking to someone I think before I came out as gay (not sure when it was. I don't think it matters tho) and we were talking about how it's so annoying how girl pants have either small pockets or fake pockets and the rage it brought us.

Those little pockets in girl pants bring me so much rage.  Especially if I go out for lunch at work and automatically go to stick my wallet into my back pocket instead of back into my messenger bag.

Quote from: graspthesanity on April 02, 2016, 08:16:13 AM
To be honest I wish I had your confidence, because I've been so dysphoric that I've started living in pants. But usually I wear all kinds of skirts, dresses, pants and heavy make up, just that I've been very dysphoric and I got my stp so I've been dressing up a bit more boring these days. But that will pass and I will have make up on my face again.

I have a certain respect for people who can pull off the heavy makeup.  One of my retail jobs involved nine months at one of the cosmetic stores in the mall, where at least seven visible makeup items was part of the "uniform".  I am able to apply it, but it was absolute torture to wear it.

Quote from: williamspace on April 02, 2016, 10:43:57 AM
I'm not seen too much during my work days. But I checked on this and I just wanted to say that you all look fabulous. Honestly like, it sucks because yesterday I got misgendered first thing (per usual) and I had to wear a bra because I'm not happy with the way my binders fit and it wasn't... too bad?

I mean I still wish to pass but I don't so these are the next best things... being sort of okay with yourself.

I'm still jealous of you all and I'd give anything to be any one of you. Keep keepin on.

I'm still at a point where I don't pass either, am pre-T and want T, and still find myself in a bra more often than a binder.  I try to remind myself that although I'm not at the point where I'd like to be yet, I'm working on it, and am getting better with it over time.

Also, although I hate selfies, I've been taking some pictures when I get new clothes or a binder or a haircut, and then save them in a separate album.  Even though the results aren't dramatic yet, I find that when I feel like I'm not making any progress, seeing even the subtle differences between the earlier and the recent pictures is encouraging.

It doesn't necessarily stop all of the jealousy I sometimes feel about guys who are farther along than I am, but it can help a bit.

The tiny pocket use to piss me off so much! I hate them like why do they exist?! No one likes them!

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Quote from: haeden on April 03, 2016, 10:14:12 PM
The tiny pocket use to piss me off so much! I hate them like why do they exist?! No one likes them!

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Totally agree!!!

I also hated the stupid little embroidery things they were putting on ALL the girls jeans here a few years back. It was impossible to find anything that didn't have a flower or a butterfly or something equally ridiculous on the butt.

You have a unique style! I have no style. Luckily I'm taller than you so I don't have as much issue finding mens pants (always get mine tailored a couple inches though) so things work out pretty well. Being on T and changing diet and exercise has also changed my body shape. My hips and butt are still too big though. I hate it lol. I also can never find a pair of track pants I like cause they're all too long and joggers make my hips look bigger! Any suggestions are welcome haha

So yeah, no style here. When it's warm I wear gym shorts and T-shirts/tanks with sneakers. When cold I wear jeans and flannels/hoodies. Kind of athletic in the summers, lumberjack in the winters haha

I usually go with jeans / khakis + polo shirt / casual button-ups (rolled up sleeves) even when I was pre-t, I'd pass 80% of the time with such outfit. The collar and little v-shaped opening gives a more masculine impression. After all, The most important is what's comfortable for yourself, and brings out our confident.