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Gender change without SRS.

Started by Sarah, January 04, 2008, 04:44:51 AM

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Sarah

This is of some concern to me as I wish to change my gender on my state ID.
I live in Colorado and I do not have the funds for surgery.
That kind of money won't exist for many years possibly.

HRT is mot a problem, but th whole ID thing is annoying to me
I have begun to realize that as my hair is getting longer, once my facial hair is removed I will be quite feminine, and I need an ID foe going out with friends and such.
All I currently have is my passport, and the picture on that already causes me problems as I was quite tan and with short hair.

Does anyone know about Colorado ID standards?

We have a T inclusive Colorado ENDA here.
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NicholeW.

There's a list & brief description of procedures for each USA state at this link: http://www.drbecky.com/birthcert.html

I'd suggest using the link there to actually ask the CO. department for more extensive details.

Nichole
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seldom

Thats birth certificate, not drivers license.

I moved to DC for this issue.  DC has statutory law that allows me to change gender on a license with a form signed by doctor, therapist, and some others who are authorized.  This is DC though.
I don't know about Colorado law. 
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NicholeW.

Sarah, since you aren't moving to D.C. try the CO driver's licensing website.

They say that "To be issued a Colorado Driver's License or Identification Card, you must prove the following elements: your full legal name, identity, age, and lawful presence in the United States. The Identification Requirements Chart shows the documents that you may use to prove each of these elements. In some cases, a single document may prove all four elements. However, it may be necessary for some applicants to provide multiple documents in order to prove all the required elements. All documents presented must be certified originals or certified amended originals or true copies certified by the issuing agency."

Gender is not mentioned as one of the elements.

Nichole
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Berliegh

Re: Gender change without SRS.

....and I'm stuck with it....unless I can move to America?
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Shana A

Quote from: Berliegh on January 05, 2008, 03:29:52 PM
Re: Gender change without SRS.

....and I'm stuck with it....unless I can move to America?

COme on over  :)
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Berliegh

Quote from: y2gender on January 05, 2008, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on January 05, 2008, 03:29:52 PM
Re: Gender change without SRS.

....and I'm stuck with it....unless I can move to America?

COme on over  :)

Thanks hon! I was serious....I have spent 4 years trying to get a referral out of the NHS..
I've had enough...
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Shana A

Quote from: Berliegh on January 05, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Thanks hon! I was serious....I have spent 4 years trying to get a referral out of the NHS..
I've had enough...

Your situation sounds absolutely frustrating!

y2g
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Berliegh

Quote from: y2gender on January 05, 2008, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on January 05, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Thanks hon! I was serious....I have spent 4 years trying to get a referral out of the NHS..
I've had enough...

Your situation sounds absolutely frustrating!

y2g

It's very frustrating hon. I know some people on the forum say I'm bitter but how would they feel? I expected my transition to be over a timescale of 2 years maximum, not 10 years and counting.....
It has broken me.....
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Laura Eva B

#9
Berliegh,

In your situation, in the UK, you should be able to get full legal gender change (i.e. GRC, birth certificate, pension, national insurance, etc, etc ....) ?

Not having the funds for SRS or being on an "intractable" NHS waiting list for surgery, would still qualify you for "legal" gender change as a pre-op after the requisite 2 years.

And bear in mind that the US women who make up the bulk of this forum's contributors have no recourse for any kind of state funded surgery.  Or have such a thing as our Gender Recognition Act ....

Which health authority / PCT has kept you on hold for 10 years ?  Don't know your story but you seem to have got an extrordinarily raw deal ....

Laura
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Berliegh

Quote from: Laura Eva B on January 10, 2008, 08:44:54 PM
Berliegh,

In your situation, in the UK, you should be able to get full legal gender change (i.e. GRC, birth certificate, pension, national insurance, etc, etc ....) ?

I changed all this documentation years ago!
Quote from: Laura Eva B on January 10, 2008, 08:44:54 PM

Not having the funds for SRS or being on an "intractable" NHS waiting list for surgery, would still qualify you for "legal" gender change as a pre-op after the requisite 2 years.

How about 4 years , nearly 5? so I am long term RLE but it's not so easy as you might think.
Quote from: Laura Eva B on January 10, 2008, 08:44:54 PM

And bear in mind that the US women who make up the bulk of this forum's contributors have no recourse for any kind of state funded surgery.  Or have such a thing as our Gender Recognition Act ....

Which health authority / PCT has kept you on hold for 10 years ?  Don't know your story but you seem to have got an extrordinarily raw deal ....

Laura

It's nothing to do with state funding or anything like that. The NHS is tax funded by us. We pay our high taxes towards the upkeep of the NHS.

Private referrals from consultants are not usually excepted in the U.K because our GP's are all NHS based and it is really hard to get a referral excepted and put through the system be it private or NHS. I have now had to re-locate to Scotland where their system is different to the English one in order to access treatment and to access a referral.
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Sharon S L

Hi all,



Since changing my name last year, I have been trying to find out what was required to change my gender on my license, although the gender does not show up on the actual license, but it is still on record with MVR. When I first asked, the staff of the Alice Springs Motor Vehicle Registry, weren't to sure, so I emailed Darwin, I did get a reply, but I lost it, and I couldn't remember what it said, so I decided yesterday (18/01/08), that seeing as how I had to renew my license I would go and see if they could help me this time, and was told what was required. See quoted clause






" 2.02.9 Evidence of Gender Reassignment


Full EO! (Category A and B) original documents in the current or former name, and a new birth certificate (with change of name if applicable) issued by the Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages is required from a person who has had a gender reassignment. "






So to me this says that I need, some form of ID plus my new birth certificate with my new gender, which I cannot obtain until after I have had the operation.


Well this is what is required by the Northern Territory, Australia, It would be interesting to see what they other states and countries require.


Hugs

Sharon
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cindybc

Hi Berliegh hon
If you are serious you are still welcome to use our residence here in BC until you get the proper documentation to have the surgery.

Cindy
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Berliegh

Quote from: cindybc on January 18, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
Hi Berliegh hon
If you are serious you are still welcome to use our residence here in BC until you get the proper documentation to have the surgery.

Cindy

Thanks Cindy, you have been very kind. I will see what happens in Scotland and if this also fails, then I might take you up on your kind offer. What do you mean by proper documentation? Do you mean letters of referral?
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cindybc

Yes letters of referral. Anyway you are quite welcomed if you should decide to come BC way. May God speed with you in Scotland. You are certainly not a quitter, I admire that in a person.

Cindy
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Berliegh

Quote from: cindybc on January 20, 2008, 06:47:24 AM
Yes letters of referral. Anyway you are quite welcomed if you should decide to come BC way. May God speed with you in Scotland. You are certainly not a quitter, I admire that in a person.

Cindy

I'm not a quitter. The more barriers they put up in the U.K the more determined I become.
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cindybc

Hi Berlieg

"Hee, hee, hee." No I hardly thought you were. Like Wing Walker says we get pulled through knot holes backwards and still keep on tikin. Well I think we even have Timex watches that takes a beating and keeps on tikin beat when it comes to tickin. I might be sensitive and emotional but I have lots of tenacity. Like tough old moos hide.

Cindy
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Tanya1

Berliegh don't give up. your welcome anytime in US.
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fluffy jorgen

isn't that like... easier said than done?
*sees problems for self in future.  :(
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Berliegh

Quote from: fluffy jorgen on January 26, 2008, 10:22:39 AM
isn't that like... easier said than done?
*sees problems for self in future.  :(

I see your living in the U.K......the only advice I can give you is to avoid the NHS (and most definitely Charing Cross GIC) as much as possible Fluffy.......don't do what I did and end up in a 7 year battle with them to try and access treatment..
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