Hi,

At the end of may I am going to a concert of one of my favourite Artists ever (little fangirl squeal just kind of slipped out), I have decided to try and go full Femme (well not really femme more androgynous keep em guessing type of thing) but I have very little knowledge on how to make my 6'4" ex rugby player build pass (personal detail measurements are 38bust 32waist 36hip with 32 inseam).

The concert is Andy Black, so the whole crowd and my 'boy' look *sigh* are kind of the emo/scene/goth/punk/rock type look.

Skinny jeans are no problem I own about 50,000 pairs, shoes are also fine i have some old converse or some vans old skools or boots (sort of caombats but more light weight more like winkle pickers but high tops.

But as I'm guessing with a lot of MtF/ MAAB androgynous people, the top half of me is the problem.

Basically I want to accentuate what little femininity I have, with out making it obvious that my body is not actually female *sigh*.

Any help is much appreciated.

Alex xxx

Hi Alex,

So I'm pretty new to this whole thing myself, but from my experience in dressing myself to achieve a feminine form in my selfies, I'd have to say that it's all about the waist and hips.

But first, a comment about your build. I'm pre-HRT, 5' 11", around 40" overbust, 38" underbust, 33" natural waist, 39" hips and I consider myself on the slim side. So the first thing I'd say is...don't get hung up on being an ex-rugby player!...you're actually very slim for your height and it seems to me that you're going to be best served by trying to improve your hip:waist ratio through whatever means you can so that visually it takes some focus away from your top half and balances you out a bit more.

The reason I say that is...even though you specifically mentioned your top half, your dimensions for your bust are tiny for your height. What I mean by that is, if you were to go and look for and find a 6' 4" cis-girl, she would most definitely have a bust of that size or bigger. That's not the bit that you need to alter to achieve believable proportions (and this is a blessing because I get the impression many MtFs struggle with having big chests!).

So.

In your situation, I think I'd avoid tight jeans completely, because they tend to make it obvious what we don't have (hips!).

If you must go for jeans, then consider getting some kind of hip pads to add a couple of inches. I generally try to achieve my feminine look with a minimum of padding (generally just breast forms), but I also picked up some cheap "boy shorts with pads" on amazon to help on those days that I need help making an outfit as feminine as I would like. There's no shame in that and many cis-girls do the same to make the most of what they have.

I recently posted my new (mainly empty!) FB profile for comments with pics, so I'll repost it here to give you an idea of what I go for with my particular dimensions, and hopefully it might provide you with some inspiration...(there's one pic there with me in leather leggings, so that's probably the most relevant photo):

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.108866379513878.1073741829.100011715484935&type=1&l=ad122da0f4

I hope that helps in some way!

Orielle
x

P.S. I know I didn't really touch on tops. For me, the biggest and best thing I do with my top, is keep my shoulders as far back as they go as that makes me look narrower, helps me elongate my neck and generally look more feminine. Most cis-girls have way better posture than cis-boys IMO.

Get a Colombian Faja.  It has a wonderful girdle effect and has cheek cut outs that lift the buttocks. Add this to some high heels and viola instant butt. But there really is no substitute for exercise.  http://www.hourglassangel.com/shape-wear/figure-type/?p=2  Not recommending this store but they do have a large selection. 

Thank you both so much Orielle what you said about me being more proportioned than I thought I was has really given me a much needed boost, I have been looking around at the fashions of some of the people who have said they are going and have noticed that mini tutu's are quite popular over some jeans or tights with a tshirt and jacket so I think that I will be comfortable with my clothing. (I suppose being seen as an effeminate boy could be better than nothing for the time being, if i don't pass to start with)

thank you

Alex xxx

p.s. now onto the makeup but im guessing that is just practice

I guess the big question for up top is are you going to wear a bra/forms?  If not, and you are going for androgynous, then there are still some choices, depending on how you want to present.  If you want to be a little bit on the male side, then wear a loose guy's T shirt color coordinated with your skinny jeans, and leave it at that.  If you want to go a little more femme, then wear a tight, stretchy tank top under a loose fitting scoop neck girl's T-shirt.  Wearing a bra underneath is optional.

And since you are going the emo route, wear whatever makeup you want -- dark lipstick, glitter eye shadow, false eyelashes, whatever.

Be safe and have fun.

Don't worry too much.,if you're going to see Kiss, Guns n Roses, New York Dolls or Elton John. You'll fit right in. Looking at the pictures of Andy Black I would not get too nervous.