Quote from: Elis on April 03, 2016, 12:42:36 PM
Thanks; maybe I'm not cursed to look female for the rest of my life after all

If I JUST saw your face I would think you were sort of an androgynous nerdy guy. I like that look. I hope you do. So can I ask what is your orientation just out of curiosity?

Quote from: alienbodybuilder on April 03, 2016, 08:21:18 PM
If I JUST saw your face I would think you were sort of an androgynous nerdy guy. I like that look. I hope you do. So can I ask what is your orientation just out of curiosity?

I really like the look Cameron Cretney from youtube has. I really wished i look like him. I would say my orientation was queer/demisexual.

Ellis, you do look better in the 2nd pic; I agree with the comments on your glasses, loser shirt, and better binder.  We can be real critical about evaluating ourselves on passing.  I general I think you pass and working on the comments would even help you pass better.  You definitely are not cursed to living looking as the female.  T works so nicely for most of us enjoy all the changes.

Quote from: Elis on April 04, 2016, 04:43:31 AM
I really like the look Cameron Cretney from youtube has. I really wished i look like him. I would say my orientation was queer/demisexual.

I didn't know who he was and googled him. I think you look better than him.

Quote from: alienbodybuilder on April 04, 2016, 06:33:31 PM
I didn't know who he was and googled him. I think you look better than him.

Omg thank you; you just made my day

I'm growing out the ginger bit and I had it cut short and idk if I still pass?! Also I'm fat and idk and I started T the other week and idk many stress and also the other day someone threw something at me and called me derogatory words and someone else spat at me so obviously I don't pass idk?!

And yeah Elis you pass but with those improvements mentioned you could defo pass even more. But you honestly look just like one of my friends ahah so.

Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:33:02 AM


I'm growing out the ginger bit and I had it cut short and idk if I still pass?! Also I'm fat and idk and I started T the other week and idk many stress and also the other day someone threw something at me and called me derogatory words and someone else spat at me so obviously I don't pass idk?!

And yeah Eli's you pass but with those improvements mentioned you could defo pass even more. But you honestly look just like one of my friends ahah so.

You're definitely not fat. I can't believe someone would do that to you.  . If I was there I'd give them a piece of my mind. You pass to me and I really like your hairstyle. You have a jawline many guys wished they had; including me.

And thanks for the compliment . I bought myself a new binder. Just have to save up to get some new glasses.

Nope, not fat. And yes, you pass. You've got a great jawline and you're rocking the eyebrows.

As to people yelling/throwing stuff/spitting - don't worry about them. What do they know? Nothing. Obviously. That has nothing to do with you.

Ok thanks guys I feel better about myself now I guess

Elis, tbh your glasses aren't like that bad like they are just normal wire frames, right? Loads of guys wear those, I mean they aren't trendy rn I know ahah because all the other people my age have the plastic ones but the plastic ones might not suit your face idk I know they don't suit mine. Like, at least they aren't girly glasses, right? I don't think they are, anyway...?!

Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:53:13 AM
Elis, tbh your glasses aren't like that bad like they are just normal wire frames, right? Loads of guys wear those, I mean they aren't trendy rn I know ahah because all the other people my age have the plastic ones but the plastic ones might not suit your face idk I know they don't suit mine. Like, at least they aren't girly glasses, right? I don't think they are, anyway...?!

I know they're not terrible but like you said it'll be great if I could wear glasses that I see other men wearing. Before T it was very hard to find frames that suited me; so I hope with my new masculine face it'll be easier. I hope new glasses will boost my confidence anyway because I've had this pair for the last 2 years. I'm guessing these glasses look pretty much unisex; so no worries

Seems like everyone in my department is going for chunky black plastic frames - guys and gals.

Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:33:02 AM


I'm growing out the ginger bit and I had it cut short and idk if I still pass?! Also I'm fat and idk and I started T the other week and idk many stress and also the other day someone threw something at me and called me derogatory words and someone else spat at me so obviously I don't pass idk?!

And yeah Elis you pass but with those improvements mentioned you could defo pass even more. But you honestly look just like one of my friends ahah so.

Where do you live that someone would treat you that way? I think you look handsome.

Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 03:53:13 AM
Ok thanks guys I feel better about myself now I guess

Elis, tbh your glasses aren't like that bad like they are just normal wire frames, right? Loads of guys wear those, I mean they aren't trendy rn I know ahah because all the other people my age have the plastic ones but the plastic ones might not suit your face idk I know they don't suit mine. Like, at least they aren't girly glasses, right? I don't think they are, anyway...?!

I subscribed to you on Youtube.

I live in England and normally the general public don't treat me like that, generally it's just people who go to school with me.
Thanks

That is crazy!  I live in Dallas, Texas and no one has ever even commented anything negative about my gender or sexuality.  Of course it is possible that I radiate a sense of "I will be happy to punch you if you mess with me"--I am a pretty alpha person who is more than a little aggressive!

Honestly I think you pass really well.  No, you don't look like some super hulky bro or whatever, but you look like a guy.  Maybe you are getting hassled because they think you're too slim and untraditionally masculine as a man and don't like that?  (I am not sure what word they called you....)

Quote from: Menoimagination on April 05, 2016, 06:50:03 AM
I live in England and normally the general public don't treat me like that, generally it's just people who go to school with me.
Thanks

I'm sorry to hear that. High school/college kids are meaner than the rest of the world! Mostly mature adults talk behind your back and give you mean looks if they don't like you, sometimes will give you a hard time. I live in a small religious city in the US, and people just give me a double take and unfriendly look.

Quote from: Daydreamer on March 31, 2016, 10:11:43 PM
Took this earlier this month to have a little throwback earlier this month. I found my old "Ident-a-Kid" card that I got issued when I was five while looking for loose change for my top surgery fund jar.

Bumping since I'm not sure if got lost in the thread. Sorry if I'm being a total attention whore.

Daydreamer I can't see any photo of you?!
Maybe it is my phone playing up?

Quote from: Menoimagination on April 06, 2016, 02:08:09 AM
Daydreamer I can't see any photo of you?!
Maybe it is my phone playing up?

I can't see it either... (also on my phone).

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Quote from: Elis on April 03, 2016, 11:35:48 AM
Thanks . Yeah; my binder does that annoying rolling up thing so I have to keep pushing it down 

If you have problems with your binder rolling up, I would suggest tucking it into your pants. That's what I do and I've never had any issues.