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Long-Term Treatment of Transsexuals with Cross-Sex Hormones: Extensive Personal

Started by Natasha, January 05, 2008, 09:23:11 PM

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Natasha

Long-Term Treatment of Transsexuals with Cross-Sex Hormones: Extensive Personal Experience

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/93/1/19
01/05/2008

Context: Transsexuals receive cross-sex hormone treatment. Its short-term use appears reasonably safe. Little is known about its long-term use. This report offers some perspectives.
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NicholeW.

Louis Gooren and the team at the Free University have been godsends. They just keep on doing their work, writing their papers and discovering more and more about transsexuality and its effects.

Wonder who will be there when they get to old to do this anymore? I haven't seen that much research ongoing anywhere but Amsterdam.

N~
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Keira

I could told them that without a study. Estrogen, what's in the body of 50% of humanity, is not dangerous short term, hey.... But, its still good to have a study state it since maybe now doctors can stop being so damn anal about dosages. Like Estrogen was radioactive or something.


Amsterdam, are the only one doing better than quack studies, but
even them have many methology faults. Their breast size study was
good in a sense that its the only one in existence, but it didn't take
into account many factors that limit the validity of their conclusion.
Most people who state 1 cup less than a family member point to
that study (not the one in the link, its another of their studies).

Factors not taken into account
- The different growth speed between mature TS and
puberty women due to varying receptor sensitivity and human growth hormone levels HGH
- Wrong kind of E (they were still using premarin and
ethinilestradiol at that time); there E had bad DVT profiles which limited safe upper dosages.
- Wrong dosage, mostly uniform too low dosages accross parties without regard to different HGH levels and receptor sensitivity (results are a better judge of dosage, but since doctors were afraid of DVT, they stayed on the low side which impacted some people's results).
- Tendency to stop to quick (SRS is one year out and often dosages were drastically taken down post op, which dramatically affected growth speed)

All of these factors made the 2 year study limit highly biased towards genetic women. Since they will have the quicker growth, so obviously they'll be bigger in 2 years than the treated TS. But, if they were both checked at the 10 years post treatment, I think the result would be different.

One of the problems with checking at 10 years down the line, is breasts are highly influenced by weight gain, which are more probable over long periods of time.

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Sheila

I don't know if anyone wants to do a long time study. We had Chistine Jorganson who was supposedly the first transexual in America in the 50's. Why didn't any doctors do any studies on her and others that follow right up until now. She didn't want anymore publicity than she already had and the doctors here, didn't want anything to do with her, as she was abnormal back then and they didn't know anything about transexuality. Just like today, we have not come that far. Even though there is a lot of information out there about transexuality, mainstream doctors still say there is nothing out there, when all you have to do is open a book. There are a lot of transexuals out there now. Why aren't there any studies going on. We have on this board people who have had surgeries 20 years ago. The fact is we don't want any studies done on us. Someone else can do that, not me.
Sheila
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tinkerbell

Wow, finally, a study....yay!  I remember years ago, trying to look for this kind of info without any success.  This is great information Natasha....perhaps too late for me....since I am now suffering the side effects of long-term estrogen therapy, but I am sure it will help many people.  Thanks for posting it :)

tink :icon_chick:
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Keira


Yeah, they specifically said that ethinilestradiol was VERY BAD for DVT (and by extension on the liver). Premarin is not as bad short term, but its as just as nocive long term; it just takes more time for damage to hit.

Can't believe with ethinilestradiol having a 8% DVT risk anyone would still be prescribing it!!! Berleigh, I think that's what your using. Get off it!!
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