Common, nobody on these planet cares about your inner values, about empathy, about your feelings, loneliness or honesty. I'm really straight into these things. Its my natural desire but people dont care. They take a bulldozer and roll over your feelings. Our society works with 2 things only: beautiness and money. Thats whats counting. But iam not beautiful and have no money.

The values you describe not exist. Its only imagination to believe anybody cares about honesty or empathy. The result of helping others is mostly a backkick in your ass. I had it hundred times. Dont tell me fairytales. And my transition was a reason for many people to cancel the friendship. And i know they have a problem with my ugliness. I lost so much people because iam.ugly. Sure after all they couldnt be real friends but who is a real friend then? Iam so lonely. Day by day. Night by night.

I wish i would be a bit more beautiful.

I hope somehow you can find some light in all your darkness.

Quote from: galaxy on April 08, 2016, 04:46:01 PM
It doesnt matter to me. Coming out or not, honesty or not ... For a worth living future its not enough.  Theres nothing in my life has in common with a woman's life. And this cant be the goal of any transition.

If you feel like a woman on the inside, then why not give it a shot and go live the life you want? The first step is the most important one. You're the only one who has to make a difference in your life. Moping about it really doesn't change anything, and trust me I know all about it.

For me, it depends.  Sometimes it gives me hope that somehow I'll turn out looking female enough that no one will know I'm trans.  Other times I think, I'll never look that good.  It depends on my mood.

That said, it mostly helps me to know that transitioning is something I can do, and I'm not crazy for wanting to do it if so many others are.

Being pretty is no guarantee that one will be happier and enjoy a better life. Trust me! Mentally is where it really counts.

KayXo, wasn't sure if you were replying to me, but to clarify, I'm not worried about being pretty (lol, though that would be nice).  I just don't want to be mistaken for a man.

Karlie Ann looking at your pic I don't see how you could ever be mastaken for as a man

Quote from: galaxy on April 08, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
And i know they have a problem with my ugliness. I lost so much people because iam.ugly. Sure after all they couldnt be real friends but who is a real friend then? Iam so lonely. Day by day. Night by night.

I wish i would be a bit more beautiful.

Honey, I've seen a good handful of your pics (you always take them down) and you are SOOO far from ugly, omg.  I know this forum can be ->-bleeped-<-y as all get out, but I absolutely promise you that you're not only passable but look beautiful... I mean, I have 0 reason for lying.  What kills me is that you don't believe it yourself, and even as I type this, am convinced you won't believe me in this post either.

Please trust me.

Are you sure youre talking about me?

Quote from: Ⓥ on April 10, 2016, 10:52:54 AM
Honey, I've seen a good handful of your pics (you always take them down) and you are SOOO far from ugly, omg.  I know this forum can be ->-bleeped-<-y as all get out, but I absolutely promise you that you're not only passable but look beautiful... I mean, I have 0 reason for lying.  What kills me is that you don't believe it yourself, and even as I type this, am convinced you won't believe me in this post either.

Please trust me.

ditto

Yes??? And why nobody like my pictures on facebook? Or leaves s feedback here? No reaction means nothing good ..  Thats sooo simple. Getting no feedback means you are far away from any good transition. And thats the truth.

Quote from: galaxy on April 10, 2016, 10:18:02 PM
Yes??? And why nobody like my pictures on facebook? Or leaves s feedback here? No reaction means nothing good ..  Thats sooo simple. Getting no feedback means you are far away from any good transition. And thats the truth.

I've put my picture up in before and after and passing and no one comments so I take them down out of shame

Iam soo sorry for you. Its such a shame.
I wish i could give you a hug or two. 

Thats what iam talking about.

Galaxy, I've seen your pictures too. And I guarantee this is all in your mind.

For me, this has all been a game of managed expectations.  I didn't transition until my mid 30's, which is not super late, but it's not 22 either. So my stated goal is to blend in with the other soccer moms.  Being young and pretty is not attainable for me...no matter what I do. So I accept it, and find comfort in the thought that I do fit in with the soccer moms. I'm just a regular lady...and that's soooo much better than being a guy

Quote from: galaxy on April 10, 2016, 10:18:02 PM
Yes??? And why nobody like my pictures on facebook? Or leaves s feedback here? No reaction means nothing good ..  Thats sooo simple. Getting no feedback means you are far away from any good transition. And thats the truth.

i find that women that look extremely passible are the ones that get fewer responses, especially if they are gorgeous at the same time, i have been guilty of being jealous of others on this forum and didn't respond to their pictures because i was a jealous bitch lol, but im sure i cannot be the only one that has done that

as for other transitions i found that before i was on hormones i would look to others transition timelines with a feeling of hopefullness, but now that i have been on hormones for just short of 3 years and don't see enough changes in myself i find that i see other transitioners (that are more successful than my self) with a feeling of jealousy and self doubt

then again maybe im the only one that has those problems

It's tough for me to see such lucky women with such natural beauty I have to admit. So envious of thick long hair & a shapely body....I've had lipo & a tummy tuck along with a face lift & other facial plastic surgery to look nicer. But we all cannot have a body like a young Elizabeth Taylor I guess. They are so lucky really. Oh well we're all alive & try to look our best so that's all we can do...

Quote from: Madison (kiara jamie) on April 11, 2016, 03:16:06 AM
i find that women that look extremely passible are the ones that get fewer responses, especially if they are gorgeous at the same time

Yep. I've encountered this, but I recognize what's going on. Still, external validation is nice, even if you technically know you're passable and/or good-looking. I mean, just because you know this and maybe feel it most of the time, doesn't mean it's constant or lasts forever.. Doesn't matter where you're at in your transition, most of us still want some sort of positive feedback from others, even if other people feel we don't need it.

Quote from: Kristinagl on April 10, 2016, 12:01:03 AM
Karlie Ann looking at your pic I don't see how you could ever be mastaken for as a man

You're sweet, Kristinagl, but I don't see it myself.

I think it depends how you look at the issue.

1 - you can compare yourself to them and everyone always sees at least one person better off than the rest. I've gotten jealous before of people who look amazing, but that is normal for everyone to some degree. Focusing on this is only going to make things worse.

Or,

2 - you can look up to them as an inspiration. These people are just like all of us, and have worked hard to transition. No one has it easy and seeing someone make it that far proves that it is most certainly very possible.

No one will look the same as each other, or even have the same experiences. However these people made it. You can too. There is some YMMV involved but one thing I notice with everyone who is "successful" (regardless of looks or anything) is that they made their own path and are HAPPY. Maybe they don't pass. Maybe they struggle with something such as work. Yet they are still enjoying life.

What I'm trying to say is, everyone can reach the same successful stage, in their own way.

Sorry for the sloppy typing, I'm doing this on my iPad.

Sophie

So many interesting posts in response here.  What a diverse bunch we are  

I recently attended a presentation and a film "Paper Tigers" about Adverse Childhood Experiences and Trauma Informed Care.  More than one of the young women in the film appeared very attractive but looks didn't really guarantee success or happiness.  Being stereotypically beautiful can come with it's own hassles and does not prevent abuse or keep our parents from throwing us out of the house.   No one picked their parents or tossed the dice for what challenges they would face in life.  Sometimes it really is a matter of chance?

I view another persons success in transitioning as a victory for that individual, their circle of support and the larger community.  Really their success helps all of us here too.  If not for the brave and successful souls that came before us there might not be options for us to consider.

Is our success really measured best in terms of our appearance?  My greatest personal victory in the pursuit of happiness  was simple self acceptance.  Yes, I am transgender but that was hard for me to fully own for the longest time.

Bring on the success stories!  Inspire, admire, and retire in the style that works for you.