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Transgender woman Storm Paradise risks losing Facebook account over unverified n

Started by suzifrommd, April 19, 2016, 06:49:32 AM

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Transgender woman Storm Paradise risks losing Facebook account over unverified name

By Emma Jones, CBC News Posted: Apr 19, 2016

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/storm-paradise-facebook-name-1.3540794

A 23-year-old Halifax woman has two days to prove she is who she says she is.

On April 13, Storm Paradise received a notification from Facebook's administrators asking for some form of documentation to prove the name on her profile matches the one she uses in real life.

Though Paradise has publicly gone by Storm since she was 16 years old, the transgender woman doesn't have any identification to show it: all her IDs match the male name on her birth certificate.

"It's like being asked to prove that you exist," said Paradise.
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Tysilio

Dammit, I thought they'd agreed to quit doing this.

What makes me laugh a little, though, is that back in the 60s I went to high school with two girls whose names, honest to god, were Sandy Storm and Candy Sweet. (This was in California. ) I wonder if they've been kicked off Facebook yet.

Oh, wait... they're probably married... and remarried... and...
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Devlyn

You wouldn't get kicked if it was your real name, though. I see Facebook's point, their guidelines state you should use your real name. Then you check off a box that says you agree to follow their guidelines. If it's a stage name, you can be listed as a public figure on Facebook. I get Facebook posts from Santa Claus and God, they're both shown as public figures.

News flash, you can't just make a name up and get a loan from a bank, either.  :laugh:
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Peep

I've got a made up - obviously made up - name on fb but because I don't use it anymore, and because I'm not visibly trans, no one has flagged me. I think the rule doesn't necessarily discriminate against trans people, but if well known trans people are on fb they're probably more likely to get flagged, which is a kind of discrimination. I bet it's people flagging the name out of spite
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suzifrommd

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on April 19, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
You wouldn't get kicked if it was your real name, though. I see Facebook's point, their guidelines state you should use your real name. Then you check off a box that says you agree to follow their guidelines. If it's a stage name, you can be listed as a public figure on Facebook. I get Facebook posts from Santa Claus and God, they're both shown as public figures.

News flash, you can't just make a name up and get a loan from a bank, either.  :laugh:

OTOH, if Facebook allows some people to use names other than their legal name (e.g. A guy name Robert is called Bob), and doesn't allow others to do the same, or pursues them selectively, that is discrimination.
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Katiepie

So the sense that facebook is going through the notions of the legal laws of the internet of saying user account must be verified as such through the legal name of the said person. Which is such an outdated law which represents the face of the close minded people who created the law.
If facebook is going through this, then google/yahoo/aol etc needs to start purging all their accounts of people creating and recreating all emails through their services.

And the whole inherent nicknames as they can cast (William to Bill etc...) should there inherently be request to the same purge. As it is not the legal name, even though through history claims to justify the use of those names to be under the same or similar to the legal name. Which makes their loophole in causing a rift from the transgender populous and the inherent binary in names.

But if they do as such, if you technically play their game of inherent names and find through your own ancestry, a relative of the same name you are pursuing, you could technically claim that your legal name is there a representation of the name thereof you are claiming to rightfully wish to be justified.

This post is a collection from a conversation I just had last night with someone who is sort of having a not so open mindset but not necessarily closed mindset with the idea of names and going by them. Yes it is discrimination if they do not purge consequential those Bill's, Jeff's, etc... But if they do purge them it wont classify as discrimination. Though if they just fix the outdated and out notioned law, then they can just let everyone use names of where they would be comfortable.

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Tysilio

There's no good reason for Facebook to require people to use their legal names. There are other ways they can verify that people aren't making multiple accounts; by checking IP addresses, for instance.

As far as I'm concerned, my legal name isn't anybody's business when I'm using the internet. It would make it much too easy for them to figure out that I'm a dog.
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Ms Grace

The dumb thing is, you could use a fake name, say "Sally Smith", but because it's so "ordinary" they wouldn't even think to ask for proof.

Anyway, if this is the Storm they're bugging then they're in a lot of trouble...

Grace
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Cindy

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Amy1988

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on April 19, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
You wouldn't get kicked if it was your real name, though. I see Facebook's point, their guidelines state you should use your real name. Then you check off a box that says you agree to follow their guidelines. If it's a stage name, you can be listed as a public figure on Facebook. I get Facebook posts from Santa Claus and God, they're both shown as public figures.

News flash, you can't just make a name up and get a loan from a bank, either.  :laugh:

How do you get varied so you get the little blue dot with the little white check mark in the center.  That's my life's dream to get a little blue dot with the little white check mark.
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Amy1988

Quote from: Peep on April 19, 2016, 05:02:46 PM
I've got a made up - obviously made up - name on fb but because I don't use it anymore, and because I'm not visibly trans, no one has flagged me. I think the rule doesn't necessarily discriminate against trans people, but if well known trans people are on fb they're probably more likely to get flagged, which is a kind of discrimination. I bet it's people flagging the name out of spite

They can flag mine all they want its legal and I have all the documentation to prove it if necessary.
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