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Finding your female voice

Started by Kristinagl, April 11, 2016, 08:41:13 AM

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Kristinagl

I'm trying to master a  feminine voice but still definitely have a ways to go to have a voice that works. Anybody have any advice or good techniques that you found really helped?
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kiteless

this is the hardest thing in the world for me and it's causing me a great deal of anxiety. i thought i had a feminine voice that worked, but i recorded it and it sounded like the phoniest thing in the world and i was so embarassed that i had gone around talking like that. i have always enjoyed singing even though i could never really hit the high notes i wanted to, and i want the flexibility of a cis woman's voice. i do a lot more with my voice than most people do, imitations and silly things and whatnot, and it is so hard to stay in the right octave that i'm not able to sing or do funny voices anymore without sounding "like a man". i've pretty much become convinced that the only way i'll really be able to use my voice is if i get the voice surgery they offer at the yeson center. and even then, are the patients really able to sing and project and use their voices to their full extent, or are they destined to a life of being quiet lest they mess up the surgery?
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Stevie

  You need to get used to hearing your voice so you know how to change it.  I have been using a looper pedal from my guitar rig to record my voice. I've played guitar for years but never sang I hated my voice. Now I am working on my voice while teaching myself to sing, hopefully I can achieve a more passable voice this way.
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suzifrommd

Quote from: Kristinagl on April 11, 2016, 08:41:13 AM
I'm trying to master a  feminine voice but still definitely have a ways to go to have a voice that works. Anybody have any advice or good techniques that you found really helped?

My voice passes everywhere. It's never clocked. Here is how I did it, adapted from the old CandiFLA videos:

1. I spoke in the highest, squeakiest voice I could manage. I concentrated on remembering the exact position my throat was in. In practice this meant my voicebox was raised a fraction of an inch and my throat was "squeezed".

2. I would then position my throat exactly that way, but speak normally. Everything that came out of my mouth sounded female when I did that.

Hope this helps.
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RobynD

I too have been learning from various videos and actually blending some of the techniques i see there. The position of the voice box is a big one. I catch myself reverting about 10x per day to the old muscle memory and generating sound from my chest. I'm making progress though.


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Kristinagl

I would prefer not to go the surgical method if I can avoid it. I have saved up enough for ffs but shy on the voice surgery if it's needed. I guess I could go nuclear on my credit and use a card to get it done lol. Has anybody here used yeson with good results?
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KayXo

This is what I've done and I pass 100% of the time.

When you speak, only use those muscles above the adam's apple (the ones that contract when you swallow), instead of using the full range of muscles in your throat. This will give you a female resonance without having to try and raise pitch. After a while, you'll be so used to only using these muscles that it'll become second nature and you won't even have to think about it. Trust me, it works and it's sooooo simple!

Another tip...when you speak, you want it to vibrate only in the upper portion of your neck, above the adam's apple. Using those upper muscles, it will only vibrate there.

Also explained differently from someone else

"Take a few breathes naturally and relax your throat.  Then take your index finger and find your Adam's apple.  Once you've done that, speak without ever letting your Adam's apple drop back down to your finger.  It can drop down a few times as you make deeper sounds like 'O' and 'W' but you want to try and hold the voice box above that.  Practice this regularly when you're in private, specifically holding your finger on your throat (it will look weird if you do it in public), until that's where you've trained your throat muscles to speak from. 

Don't over practice either.  Remember, you're working out muscles.  Just like any other muscle, they need practice, but they also need time to heal and recuperate."



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JoanneB

Funny thing the thread name.... It is also the name on an instructional DVD by Deep Stealh Productions. I found it to be pretty good. Like makeup it takes Practice, Practice Practice
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Valwen

I hate my voice and lately I almost completely gave up on working on it. I realized I was making myself extra miserable constantly trying and failing to make it better. I realized that I am much happier with my day to day life when I don't obsess over my voice and just do what little I can. Mabye I will get back to it later but right now it's just one too many.

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RachelsMantra

Things I do:

-Count to 100 over and over

-Reading passages, record myself and listen repeat

-Singing

-Practice nonsense syllables: wee woo nee noo moo mee ree roo etc really play around with your resonance by imagining a sphere on your threat and it moving upwards - connect the nonsense syllables to real words e.g. roo = room boo = boom

-Recording yourself is crucial - auditory feedback is how the brain learns

-When driving reading all text you see aloud in different intonations

-Talk/sing in falsetto to strengthen vocal chords. Drop down from falsetto but maintain resonance in head and out of chest.

-Repeat stock phrases over and over recording yourself until they sound good e.g. I say the pledge of allegiance lol

Started HRT on September 1st, 2015.
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Kristinagl

I have looked but to no avail. Does anybody know of a app that you can use to record and has instant live play back so I can hear myself as I speak as I talk
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karenpayneoregon

Hello,

I worked through various videos on the web, did a lot of practicing and from that believed I had a decent fem voice but then realized it was borderline. With that I came to realize that a voice coach. There is only one coach in my area and decided to use her. One of the first things I noticed was she could mimic various tones and resonances so she would mimic me then get to a female voice and explain the underlying mechanics and little by little work towards where I needed to be.  After roughly five visits I was doing very well. For me the key to success was having her immediate feedback and how to correct what I was doing wrong. This is something one can't get from a video yet I completely understand not everyone has a competent voice coach or may have one but can't afford them.

The most difficult part for me was keeping the brain working female voice throughout the day while short term I was perfect. As time goes by the brain is more in tune with doing a female voice rather in the beginning wanted to revert back to a lesser quality female voice. 

I can't stress enough that immediate feedback, at least for me was critical in obtaining a natural sounding female voice even on the telephone. It's lots of work, practice and dedication.


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Mavis

Has anyone tried the EVA voice app in iTunes Store? Works on iPod touch, iPad and iphone
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jsmastah

Quote from: Mavis on April 25, 2016, 09:38:31 AM
Has anyone tried the EVA voice app in iTunes Store? Works on iPod touch, iPad and iphone
Yeah, I downloaded it just now. Seem pretty good. Only problem is the fact that it has those micro purchases.
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Lilian J

Quote from: suzifrommd on April 11, 2016, 10:12:57 AM
My voice passes everywhere. It's never clocked. Here is how I did it, adapted from the old CandiFLA videos:

1. I spoke in the highest, squeakiest voice I could manage. I concentrated on remembering the exact position my throat was in. In practice this meant my voicebox was raised a fraction of an inch and my throat was "squeezed".

2. I would then position my throat exactly that way, but speak normally. Everything that came out of my mouth sounded female when I did that.

Hope this helps.y

Just tried this with Voice Pitch App and hit female for the first time.
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