Quote from: Jessica G on December 17, 2007, 10:18:12 PM
Does anyone feel like there boobs have stopped growing? I feel this way sometimes. When I first started HRT things where going great. Within a week my nipples started to hurt, every month there was some progress. But it seems like they don't grow at all now. I'm just wondering if others have felt this way too, and if there was a happy ending.

Yes....and they didn't grow much anyway.....I must admit after 10 years on hormones it's a dissapointment..

Quote from: Keira on December 19, 2007, 09:56:38 AM

Kate, as I said also elsewhere, you have to realize also that you had a lot more
pect initially than now, so even if you have more breast tissue, you can have less
"breast" in a sense of filling the cup.

I went from 38B to 34C, so I've got less "breast" but more breast (because initially I had mostly muscle with fat and breast tissue on top. My whole body has shrunk. I had trouble fitting in medium blouses and now I'm heading for small!!

Most women have very very small pects compared to men, so they don't really figure in
the breast's size and that's why FTM have such flat chest unless they trained hard prior
to mastectomy.

Off topic Kiera, but what kind of education do you have?  I've just noticed how you have this amazing tendency to constantly confuse the issue with facts>.>

I've got a computer engineering degree, a graduate diploma in management, another in project management, and now almost a graduate diploma in public relations (all are masters level diploma (like a masters without the thesis)

I've also was 2 years in pure physics (prior to engineering).

Plus much (12 years) of international work, 3 of which were spent in San-Francisco bay area.

Still, I'm as messed up as anyone, or maybe more ;-).
If life was as easy as taking courses or degrees, it would be a cinch HAHA

Quote from: Keira on January 07, 2008, 08:32:34 PM

I've got a computer engineering degree, a graduate diploma in management, another in project management, and now almost a graduate diploma in public relations (all are masters level diploma (like a masters without the thesis)

I've also was 2 years in pure physics (prior to engineering).

Plus much (12 years) of international work, 3 of which were spent in San-Francisco bay area.

Still, I'm as messed up as anyone, or maybe more ;-).
If life was as easy as taking courses or degrees, it would be a cinch HAHA

That's a lot of school Kiera!

How did you afford all of that?

I'm still dreading just getting out of tech college and going to a university, but some people say universities are easier than tech colleges nowadays... pharmacy, one day^_^

I guess you like to build things>.>

The engineering degree (4 years) and physics (2 years) was full time
and university is dirt cheap for Quebec residents (You must be a citizen or a landed immigrant (resident) to have the good rate). At that time, it was about $400 per year. Now, its $2800
for a full time student (5 courses), still not that expensive.

I don't know if universities are easier. In engineering schools its MUCH harder,
especially computer engineering which I think is the hardest with physics.
When I did it, the average GPA of the first year students was 2.4 in the first years
and everybody was depressed about their horrible grades. The class
average in a math course was 8/20 !! You had a A with a 13/20 (they reformed
the course completely after that because so many people complained).
The easiest engineering degree I think is INDUSTRIAL (basically process ingeneering) and CIVIL.

200£ a year? damn >< i pay that for my books! its 7 times that for my fees ><
R

College education makes your boobs bigger!

yep, all the 'exersise'
i kid... dunno, but m2fs in college are likey to still be developing... unless they transition silly early
I know mine are not neceserily getting bigger, but filling out and becoming more firm and solid...
R

Quote from: Keira on January 07, 2008, 10:38:03 PM
The engineering degree (4 years) and physics (2 years) was full time
and university is dirt cheap for Quebec residents (You must be a citizen or a landed immigrant (resident) to have the good rate). At that time, it was about $400 per year. Now, its $2800
for a full time student (5 courses), still not that expensive.

That's totally amazing.  No way you could get one course a year here for that.  But I worked my butt off and came out of my education debt free.  That includes B.S., Masters and Doctorate.  Yes, it can be done.

I'll have well educated boobs, anyway.  Let's see, how many semester hours per cubic inch would that be........

Kristi

btw, whats the maturation pattern for breast growth?
R

Quote from: Kristi on January 08, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
That's totally amazing.  No way you could get one course a year here for that.  But I worked my butt off and came out of my education debt free.  That includes B.S., Masters and Doctorate.  Yes, it can be done.

I'll have well educated boobs, anyway.  Let's see, how many semester hours per cubic inch would that be........

Kristi

Educated boobs rawk out.

Quote from: Keira on January 07, 2008, 10:38:03 PM

The engineering degree (4 years) and physics (2 years) was full time
and university is dirt cheap for Quebec residents (You must be a citizen or a landed immigrant (resident) to have the good rate). At that time, it was about $400 per year. Now, its $2800
for a full time student (5 courses), still not that expensive.

I don't know if universities are easier. In engineering schools its MUCH harder,
especially computer engineering which I think is the hardest with physics.
When I did it, the average GPA of the first year students was 2.4 in the first years
and everybody was depressed about their horrible grades. The class
average in a math course was 8/20 !! You had a A with a 13/20 (they reformed
the course completely after that because so many people complained).
The easiest engineering degree I think is INDUSTRIAL (basically process ingeneering) and CIVIL.

And this is why sometimes I consider moving to Quebec rather than Vancouver -- cheaper schools. Alberta is way over priced! You don't want to know how much our schools cost and how the AB government is a scrooge when it comes to student loans... I know way to many people who end up leaving school because they can't afford it, they get hardly a dime from student loans, and rack up bank debt, etc, etc.

Besides, it will be like going back to my family routes. My family settled in Quebec in 1642 -- now if only I knew that side of the family better, 'cause I like the idea of staying at an Estate while going to school, etc. On my Dad's side I have a grandma and uncles and aunts and cousins. I don't know any of them, although I talked to Grandma once long, long ago. On my mom's side, my Uncle and Aunt are there along with two nieces, and I talk to them sometimes.


Oh, wait, I'm hijacking the topic!

Back to topic...

You wanna know what's really weird and what really sux -- recently it's been looking like my breasts have been shrinking. Now, that's a freak out! But at the same time, my body has been changing like mad and is doing wonky stuff.

--natalie

Probably looks like their shrinking because of muscle loss.
Its probable that your band size is also shrinking.

I've noticed mine have gotten bigger but there not where I want them. I was at the Bay on the weekend and was looking at undergarments with a friend I saw the nicest bra and panties in purple satin and black lace and it was on sale...but I'm just to small to buy bras right now. It really upsets me, I'm coming up to a year on HRT so ill see how I am on the year date.

yeah Ive been on HRT a year now and my boobs still havnt grown much. They just seem to be pointy around the nipples. Im hoping they will fill out and grow a bit this year. I suppose they are growing in spurts. When I havnt eaten much they seem to get smaller. I suppose thats normal!

Hi Kristi

QuoteI'll have well educated boobs, anyway.  Let's see, how many semester hours per cubic inch would that be.........

Interesting, maybe I'll go back to school

Well I've been eight years on the hormones and there were times when I didn't feel any growth then it would resume again a couple moths later. I had tissue growth happening there for at least five years. I don't know what the limit is but mine kept growing on and off for five years. I'm at 36B but I am only 5'-3" and this is what's got me a bit worried, I am 130 lbs, the most I ever weighed in my life, but what bothers me is that the extra weight I gained seems to have all accumulated to the stomach area, I wish I was pregnant.

Cindy   

Hi, Keira,

I have "tweaked your nose" in these forums at times, likely because I wondered how someone could have a useful answer for so many things, how one could believe statistics as laws of the universe.  Stats can mean much or mean little, but that is in the mind of the one analyzing them to see a trend.  But that is not why I have posted directly to you here.

Given what you have studied, it is important to know how to do research, to find information, locate the facts, and present them in a useful manner to whomever has started you on your journey.  Every answer to every question doesn't reside in your mind, and maybe not even on the Internet, but I believe that you know where to start looking for it.

I worked in Procurement and Contracting for 30 years and I have my degree in Business Management with a core concentration on Contracts.  In that line of work I was required to understand the needs of many user disciplines, from publishing to mechanical and electrical engineering.  I could not talk sensibly to a potential supplier until I learned the language of the requirement and the potential suppliers.

So that is what I have come to believe, that you, Keira, are good at finding the info.  And thank you for sharing it.

Wing Walker

Here's what's been bothering me:

Just how long are breasts supposed to take to grow?  Does it vary widely?

The 007b.com site seems to say that breast adipose tissue deposits itself relatively quickly, like in the course of a year for a pubertal girl, and that by the time of menarche depositing of fats is basically over.  On the other hand, for transgirls they say to wait 2 years before considering BA.  Still others say, "Wait longer than 2 years for the BA, you may well get another growth spurt and wind up TOO endowed!" Finally, yet others say that a transpuberty is much like a natal girl's puberty, and that all the changes will take a good 7 years or so.

I'm rather confused. 

Lia

Ya I've heard it varys alot, I've read 4 years and I've read 7 years so I don't think theres a standard. But most seem to say after 2 years you should be more or less your final size. But you do keep growing but it's not going to visually make to much of a difference. But everyone's diffrent

Have you seen this yet?  It's a guide to breast development but by no means does it apply to everyone, natal female or not.

I have hears it said that in our case the best that we can hope for is one cup smaller than our nearest close relative, like mother or sister.  I cannot say if that it true.

http://www.afraidtoask.com/breast/breastdevelopement.html

I hope that this helps.

Wing Walker