I have got to agree with all here.  Only jerks hit girls

I have to disagree, but only in the case of a good spanking. >

I don't agree with some of the people here that "men" who hit "girls" are cowards. They are actually very brave and stupid (there is a thin line between the two) because they make themselves outcasts from every sector of society. From what I've observed on the sidelines, there are two types of "men" who hit "girls", there's the domestic violence type, where the man becomes frustrated and can no longer control his anger in a heated argument with his spouse (sometimes she might bait him on purpose for the purpose of using it against him), then there are the big "bad ass" thug types who are not afraid of "three guys from school" trying to assault him if he hits a girl. Such bully types grow up not afraid of anything. They think their girlfriend will love them more if they beat them or something (she is may be calling up loved ones in the middle of the night saying things like "he hit me again but I love him").

I play fight with my girl. Wrestle around, leg ties etc...but never HIT. Iv'e been slapped hard as HELL across the face (kinda deserved it), and could of easily pummled the girl, but I kept my cool, used a few choice words and let it go. It is NEVER okay to hit a girl. Iv'e seen guys get beat almost to death for abusing women. If you know physically you're stronger than anyone, male or female, and are "playing around", you should know your limits.

I think that instead of asking whether it is okay for a "man" to playfully hit a "girl", it would be better to ask whether any of these people, male or female, actually want to be playfully hit and slapped around. Even if you are "male", if your friends are hitting you and you don't like it, it is not cool at all. If you are female and you are okay with your male friends "playfully" hitting you, I guess I don't see the problem.

well heres the deal on why you shouldn't hit girls.


Their bodies are pretty delicate and it hurts them a lot more when they get hit. They get easily brusied, they have a different balance and can fall easily if pushed. They have less endurance- meaning they can't throw in as many punches as guys nor can they hit as hard. Their arms, chest, shoulder, frame and hands are a lot smaller- which means that they're bodies aren't suitable to go into a fight with men. Plus they also have breasts which plays role(my theory) in they way you punch.

So that's why women get upset because it is threatening to them.

And remember this is just a generalization- many women can knock the wind out of men.

About hitting girls- well sometimes if women get violent with men and they don't stop- men should restrain them. If men are threatened by them, I guess it's fine for them to go ahead and use self-defense BUT not use exccesive force.- just till they stop.

Aside from this exception from hitting girls- I think your a coward if you hit women, in fact I think your coward if you hit anyone regardless of gender that is obviously physically inferior to you.


Posted on: November 24, 2007, 11:07:29 AM

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Quote from: Emmalene on November 23, 2007, 12:35:40 PM
I think that instead of asking whether it is okay for a "man" to playfully hit a "girl", it would be better to ask whether any of these people, male or female, actually want to be playfully hit and slapped around. Even if you are "male", if your friends are hitting you and you don't like it, it is not cool at all. If you are female and you are okay with your male friends "playfully" hitting you, I guess I don't see the problem.

agreed but the problem is that when your male and you get hit- your expected to take it like it's okay

Quote from: Tanya1 on November 24, 2007, 11:08:39 AM

Aside from this exception from hitting girls- I think your a coward if you hit women, in fact I think your coward if you hit anyone regardless of gender that is obviously physically inferior to you.

agreed but the problem is that when your male and you get hit- your expected to take it like it's okay

The problem is that a man who assaults a physically inferior "man" will not be treated like a coward. The three guys who would not hesitate to kick his butt if the physically inferior person were a women would not only not do anything if the physically inferior person were male, but they would probably respect the bully and kiss his butt. This is probably why transgendered people are in constant danger of getting assaulted. If they have a penis hanging between their legs, it wont matter if they feel they are really women.

Quote from: Tanya1 on November 24, 2007, 11:08:39 AM
Their bodies are pretty delicate and it hurts them a lot more when they get hit. They get easily brusied, they have a different balance and can fall easily if pushed. They have less endurance- meaning they can't throw in as many punches as guys nor can they hit as hard. Their arms, chest, shoulder, frame and hands are a lot smaller- which means that they're bodies aren't suitable to go into a fight with men. Plus they also have breasts which plays role(my theory) in they way you punch.

I work with, and have had the pleasure of knowing, plenty of women that could easily handle themselves in a fight (it comes with the job).  Not every woman is a delicate china doll.

Im from the deep south our rule is more like you hit a girl and you get hit back by every male around and then some. Id never hit a girl tomboy or not its just not right.

I don't hit girls, unless it's a playful thing. Anybody who treats anybody else as something less than equal, as a whole, needs some serious help.



However, this mindframe doesn't stop girls from hitting me, heh.

Quote from: Kristi on November 17, 2007, 10:20:51 PM
I remember being beaten up as a child, wondering why I couldn't be a girl so everything would be OK.

Kristi

Oh Kristi... your words just released some long lost memories... a flood of emotion and tears.  I had completely forgotten those times.  I felt the same way.  I was beaten many times when I was young.  I can't deal with this right now.  I'm going to log off and find a warm blanket, soft light, and some music for some good cry time.

Cindi

Quote from: Kate on November 18, 2007, 12:48:34 AM

Quote from: Katia on November 18, 2007, 12:41:13 AM
thanks. yea. very true. most of them are "men" though

Oh I dunno... I've had the &@^!! beat out of me twice in my life. One of those times was by a girl

~Kate~

If you tell me where this beating by women took place, I shall avoid the neighborhood.

Wing Walker

Never, ever hit anyone! Grow up!

Yep. Just don't hit anyone, period. Unless it's self-defense, in which case it doesn't matter who you're defending yourself against, hit 'em.

This seems to be more of a schientific or Philosophical question as to why the rule is:

The old rule is this:
Gentlemen don't hit ladies.
Gentlemen open doors for ladies.

Basicly, other than in absoulute self defense or light flirty shoves the rule applies in most places. I don't think it completely applies to butch girls though as they don't want' the special treatment.

However other than the whole Womens body bruises more easily thing, the main reason probably has to do with traditional views of men and women.
Men are viewed traditionally (even if somewhat stereotypically) as protectors of women.
You are not protecting the woman if you hit her.
That said, it's an old rule. If you are worried about playing, the thing is in playfulness, you just don't hit as hard as you would a guy in playfulness. and you don't hit like you mean it. just a playful shoulder tap or somthing in fun. not enough to hurt.

In a serious situation like life or death, all rules are void.

But for playfulness that is the rule as well as in general anger.
No matter how mad she makes you, you don't hit her unless you want to be an abusive jerk.

That has been my understanding of the rule.

Quote from: The_Unforgiven on November 16, 2007, 05:11:43 PM
I don't get the rule 'Don't hit girls'.

It's an expression of our patriarchal society.  In a feminist society the rule would be, "Don't hit."

Quote from: Chris on November 17, 2007, 02:10:23 PM
hitting girls aint cool.  a dude should never hit a girl.  only coward dudes hit girls.  hit me instead & see what happens >

Exactly

I have never EVER hit a woman and never will do.. Yes they make me angry but I couldn't hit a woman I would never forgive myself if I did.

My high school best friend (Chris) always got picked on because of his size and height and one day a woman started attacking him in school, for no reason what so ever it was out of the blue. I watched him stand there whilst this woman was literally beating the poor man blue... He wouldn't even defend himself against her; I myself in the end had to pull her off him where she started hitting me... I told her to calm down and lucky a teacher arrived just in time.

If I had to defend myself against a woman attacking me I would, depending on the type of attack... (Stabbing) would depend on what I would do, I of course would try reasoning with her first... it depends on how violent.

Most women around where I live can handle themselves and are actually more violent than men are. However it still doesn't excuse hitting a woman.

I hit men yes to defend myself or if there complete arses...

But I don't go out of my way to get into a fight with anyone.

I remember when I was in primary school (elementary) there was this one guy who would run around and hit girls (not really hurting them, just hitting them. And he would get called "gay" the rest of the boys kept saying "if you hit girls then you are gay" I never rightly understood that...  But I guess kids will be kids...


WOW! I wrote alot! 

Quote from: Lisbeth on January 03, 2008, 10:20:36 AM
It's an expression of our patriarchal society.  In a feminist society the rule would be, "Don't hit."

Absolutely right! Violence is never a good way to deal with problems, it merely creates more violence.

y2g

Quote from: y2gender on January 04, 2008, 11:48:00 AM

Absolutely right! Violence is never a good way to deal with problems, it merely creates more violence.

Not if you score a knockout:-)

A human is a human, regardless of gender.  If a bitch swings at me, I'll swing right back, unless I have an opportunity to get out of the situation.

This blue blooded fantastical concept of, "violence is bad" really get on my nerves.  Humanity is a violent creature.  Wars are good.  The last war gave every Jew in the world back part of their holy land.  Before that it saved the United States economy.  Abolished slavery.  Told the Mexicans who's boss.  Set up a beautiful country that changed worldwide values.

I won't mention modern wars due to the controvercy.

But the point is, that war isn't a bad thing.  People die, but they would die anyways.  In a world with this many people in it, the only way for great change to come about IS war.

Violence is nessecary at times, simply because there are violent people in this world then there will be more violent people in this world.  At times there really is an all or nothing, where you have to stand up for what you believe in.

People in the United States have gone soft and hypocritical, sneering at violence and wars and saying that violence is bad period and that we should never go to war even when we're being bombarded and threatened worldwide by terrorists.  They point their fingers and scream for change, but when it comes down to the only thing that will change it they show their backsides because they're too scared to face the bitter truth of this world.

I'm frankly disgusted by this, "world peace" bull->-bleeped-<-.  Peace is nice and needed, and the ultimate goal of war IS peace.  But peace forever is stale and people forget why they want peace so badly.  You cannot recognise the good without the bad.

Violence and pillaging, for the win.

Quote from: kalt on January 07, 2008, 06:28:34 PM

Quote from: y2gender on January 04, 2008, 11:48:00 AM

Absolutely right! Violence is never a good way to deal with problems, it merely creates more violence.

Not if you score a knockout:-)

A human is a human, regardless of gender.  If a bitch swings at me, I'll swing right back, unless I have an opportunity to get out of the situation.

This blue blooded fantastical concept of, "violence is bad" really get on my nerves.  Humanity is a violent creature.  Wars are good.  The last war gave every Jew in the world back part of their holy land.  Before that it saved the United States economy.  Abolished slavery.  Told the Mexicans who's boss.  Set up a beautiful country that changed worldwide values.

I won't mention modern wars due to the controvercy.

But the point is, that war isn't a bad thing.  People die, but they would die anyways.  In a world with this many people in it, the only way for great change to come about IS war.

Violence is nessecary at times, simply because there are violent people in this world then there will be more violent people in this world.  At times there really is an all or nothing, where you have to stand up for what you believe in.

People in the United States have gone soft and hypocritical, sneering at violence and wars and saying that violence is bad period and that we should never go to war even when we're being bombarded and threatened worldwide by terrorists.  They point their fingers and scream for change, but when it comes down to the only thing that will change it they show their backsides because they're too scared to face the bitter truth of this world.

I'm frankly disgusted by this, "world peace" bull->-bleeped-<-.  Peace is nice and needed, and the ultimate goal of war IS peace.  But peace forever is stale and people forget why they want peace so badly.  You cannot recognise the good without the bad.

Violence and pillaging, for the win.

Wow. I've heard that point made many times, but you really got it through to me. That was really moving. I gave you an Applaud for that.