Quote from: Emileeeee on April 15, 2016, 08:42:46 AM
I guess it's just men all around though.

I don't think women are necessarily going to feel comfortable with sufficiently masculine-looking transmen using their toilets either.

I've seen a few things springing up around the net already showing images of transmen in women's toilets beside women (in response to the bathroom bills) with the tagline "does it look like I belong here?" and the faces of some of those women ranging from bemused to blank.

No one needs to police bathrooms and those of us who are Cis, need to open our mouths and do something about it.

Many Cis people would step up to your defense, seriously, most don't give a fat rats butt about it, especially educated people. We think it's BS. It's the ignorant ones who would give you most trouble.

I also agree with Cindy, it is about owning your space. You belong there, it does not matter how you look. If someone tried to tell me that I didn't belong in the womens room, I would ignore them or have something not so nice to say to them.

I usually go to the women's bathroom because when I go it's always some place where someone knows me (and doesn't know I'm trans) or I'm with some family member, and I'm not out to everyone. For example gym. I don't really use the bathroom and locker room there. But if I really need to go, I go to the women's one because the gym owner and the trainer know me and it's not like I want to come out to them. And I don't need to. I'm pre-everything and I don't think people there need to know or would be able to understand. As I said I don't really use the bathroom there (I pee before going, and I don't pee every hour, so....) and I take a shower when I go home. So I don't see it as an issue there. I simply avoid both locker rooms/bathrooms. Problem solved.

But if I'm alone somewhere and no one knows me I'll use the men's bathroom. Because I fear I get weird looks in women's bathrooms. Maybe I'm paranoid but I think it happened a few times. I look like a young cis guy, I don't really want to scare anyone in the women's bathroom. It's difficult, because I really pass most of the time but if there's someone I know around me who doesn't know I'm a trans guy (family members, college friends, just to make a few examples) I just can't go to the men's bathroom.

If I see unisex bathrooms I use those, obviously. My college has many of those, but some are gendered. I find gendered bathrooms ridiculous. All bathrooms here have closed stalls, doors can be locked and there's no space below doors so no one could spy. Then there's the sinks area. Still, most bathrooms here in my country are gendered. i just find it stupid since stalls are closed and doors can be locked.

Once I start HRT I'm pretty sure I'll never go to women's bathrooms again. My voice is already masculine and might sound androgynous like people can still doubt....with T though, it will get deeper and will not be androgynous anymore and there will be no doubts after some months or years on T. And facial hair will start growing eventually. So I'd never risk like that, no matter what I have "downstairs".