Hello everyone,
I am really considering buying an effective stp packer now that I am used to packing with a cheaper one.

I was really considering the EZP but I am not sure if it will look like an erection.  I am even willing to switch to briefs for it but it's just the way it stands.  I don't want to waste money for something I am going to have issues with. 

Maybe I will stick with the non stp packers only for that reason.  So then I was looking into the Reel magic 3.5" basic packer but I haven't found any reviews for that particular one.  I am really indecisive about which route I should go because between stp packers and packer only ones, there are always few factors to compensate from both sides.
It comes down to which functionality I desire most I guess and there is not one that will give both successfully?

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The EZP won't give an erection effect. Alot of cisgender guys wear their junk upwards too. The bulge is actually very natural looking. It lays up against you and doesn't point outwards.

Thank you Joanna for the welcome and the information.  I was googling a bunch of reviews of which packer to purchase and ended up here:)

Raptor Chops, thank you for sharing. I guess I am not used to it pointing upward, that's why I was hesitant.  I am just wondering if it's comfortable to wear the EZP all day (including sleep) because that's what I do with the current Masho I have.   I am also wondering about where the cup actually stays when moving and sitting, etc? Is it supposed to be down there (like when peeing) or on the frontal area instead? That's another thing that confuses me. 

Sorry that I am bothering you about this but I just noticed from one of your other posts that I was reading that you also own the Reelmagic 5"?  I am considering either the 3" or the 4.5" one and I was wondering if you wear yours with a harness or can you also wear it with briefs or possibly trunks without it shifting?

I guess I am asking for too much when I want a prosthetic that gives the STP function well like the EZP AND having a realistic feeling at the same time... 
Perhaps  if they made the top portion of a STP shaft's inside thicker than the bottom portion, since that's not where the pee travels?

The EZP, for me, has not worked out very well.  I found it a little too leaky for my anatomy so I could not use it reliably as an STP device.  Also, I never got used to the way it packs!  It is hollow, out of functional necessity, so it just seems to squish flat in my pants and looks like a big wrinkle.  It moved around too much while being active and sometimes worked its way around to the side of my fairly tight briefs, so for me, not much success.  I have the Reelmagik 3inch basic packer in the soft style and it is great.  Stays right where I want it to be and looks pretty real in my swimsuit, running shorts, and everyday clothes.  Of all my packers, it is my favorite.  I also used the Reelmagik classic 4.5 inch as well, but it tended to chafe a little bit inside my thighs and rode up a little high. I am patiently waiting for the release of their lightweight models!   I, too, am still looking for the true answer to the STP/packer dilemma.  Thankfully I do not use very many public restrooms, so the STP is less of a big deal, and I usually use the pStyle at home or when traveling, hiking, etc.  Good luck with your process!

Quote from: FreakOfNature on May 17, 2016, 08:52:36 PM
Thank you Joanna for the welcome and the information.  I was googling a bunch of reviews of which packer to purchase and ended up here:)

Raptor Chops, thank you for sharing. I guess I am not used to it pointing upward, that's why I was hesitant.  I am just wondering if it's comfortable to wear the EZP all day (including sleep) because that's what I do with the current Masho I have.   I am also wondering about where the cup actually stays when moving and sitting, etc? Is it supposed to be down there (like when peeing) or on the frontal area instead? That's another thing that confuses me. 

Sorry that I am bothering you about this but I just noticed from one of your other posts that I was reading that you also own the Reelmagic 5"?  I am considering either the 3" or the 4.5" one and I was wondering if you wear yours with a harness or can you also wear it with briefs or possibly trunks without it shifting?

I guess I am asking for too much when I want a prosthetic that gives the STP function well like the EZP AND having a realistic feeling at the same time... 
Perhaps  if they made the top portion of a STP shaft's inside thicker than the bottom portion, since that's not where the pee travels?

You're not bothering me one bit. STPs are hit or miss for everyone and just because one worked for me doesn't mean it works for everyone else. It's best to try out whichever you feel may work out for you.

Basically it sits on your pubic mound and points upward or up and to the side. For me  I have to wear tight boxer briefs to keep it in place. Your underwear needs to have a tight crotch area, if you wear tighty whites that are kind of saggy you're going to find your ween down your leg. It will shift around a bit but cisgender guys adjust themselves a lot so it gives you reason to pull at your junk haha. It is comfortable but I don't recommend wearing it 24/7 because it could end up warping like my first one did and then you'll be peeing all over your hands.

As for my RM packer I love it. The only problem I have is my harness is a bit worn out and it keeps slipping thru the ring on it that holds it in place. Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work without a harness. You could always look into the RM or Emisil STPs. I just feel like the concept of not having to use a harness for an STP hasn't been the most successful. I hear people say that the RM and Emisil STPS seem a bit too heavy to just adhere to the body. I dunno, it's all trial and error my friend but you'll find something that works for you .

 It really does seem to be a hit or miss because I think it comes down to what my priority is: having a successful STP or good feeling/looking packer. I am also kind of interested in the Emisil one but I need to research more on that.

HeyTrace, so when you look at the EZP from your outer clothing, it doesn't have a natural bulge at all?

I don't really doubt the STP function of it but it's just the way it packs that I may not be comfortable with, at least at this time.  I wish there was a way to buy a used one cheaper so I can test it out.

I am not extremely active but I do go to a fitness center from time to time and do a lot of stretches so I am scared of embarrassing situations.
I think at this time, I am leaning more towards a natural looking (bulge wise) and feeling (as it it was a part of me) packer so I am going with the Reelmagic but now I don't know whether to get the Classic or Soft..
Is there a difference in the feel or looks (realistically) and does the soft one get sticky like cyberskin packers or is it manageable?

Also, can you can recommend which harness for me to get for the Reelmagic?  I would prefer something that doesn't cause damage to the packer.

i went with the Classic Packer because I think the softer one you are supposed to powder every now and then so it doesn't collect dust and lint. I use a peecock harness but i've used it so much now that It's worn out and my packer kind of falls through the front slit. I did buy some underwear and a harness from Tranzwear and they work great for it.

As much as I dislike harnesses, the shifting of the packer even with briefs really annoys me.  I tried the Bullet Briefs from Tranzwear and while it didn't shift that much, it would still go forward too much from my body when I bent and I feel like the packer should always touch my skin.  Can I ask which model from Tranzwear or Peecock you used?

I've got the EZP and a reelmagik 3" basic packer so maybe I can answer comparison questions. The EZP is my favorite realistic STP for packing (and I've gone through a few). It doesn't stick out and even if it moves around its never given me a weird bulge. It's fairly easy to master the STP function (especially with the improvements-the first version wasn't as easy). My only thing with the EZP is Ive seen people's kind of deform over time from packing and my first version EZP did start to mush a little over the course of a few months. The new version is sturdier but I still only wear it when I know I'll absolutely need it.
The reelmagik 3" is hands down the best packer I've ever had in terms of comfort and realism. I use packing Pete boxer briefs and the packing Pete jock to pack with usually and so far it's never resituated into a weird bulge. I think it's too small to look bonery anyways. It's suuuuuper squishy and very easy to wear. When the featherweight model comes out I'll probably upgrade just because I personally prefer not to have the excess weight, but it's not bad as is. It weighs as much as you'd expect from a packer this size.
Anywho, they're both great products it just depends on what you need more right now. Like if I know I'll be somewhere with stalls or private bathroom I'll use my reelmagik and maybe take my pstyle as a precaution. If I'm out in places I know are very heavily trafficked, no stalls, etc then I use the EZP.

Comparison pic. the colors look better in person
http://m.imgur.com/wY7yJ3X,FOBr8Fc

Quote from: FreakOfNature on May 27, 2016, 10:53:43 AM
HeyTrace, so when you look at the EZP from your outer clothing, it doesn't have a natural bulge at all?

Also, can you can recommend which harness for me to get for the Reelmagic?  I would prefer something that doesn't cause damage to the packer.

For me, the EZP looks a little ridiculous...like there is a big wrinkle in my shorts, and feels very unnatural.  I do not really use a harness for my RM packer.  I guess my briefs are tight enough that it has never been necessary, and I despise having too many things around my waist!  I did make myself a DIY harness out of some clear elastic and an o-ring for those times I might want to go commando, but I don't use it very often. One thing I like about the soft version of the RM packer is that it is a little tacky to the touch, which sticks to my skin, helping to keep it in place.

Thank you for sharing the pics Lorlor.  Was the Reelmagik M7 color shade?  I was initially going for the 3.5" (the average size for cis men?) but the way it sticks out and the back being flat is making me go with 4.5 but then again, I am wondering if it would be too big.

HeyTrace, I know what you mean about harnesses. I would have never considered it myself but I just want safety. Making a clear one seems like a good idea.

In my case, I would even want to shower with my packer because I get beyond dysphoric that I literally want it to be one with me all the time instead of using it certain times of the day.

Can you comfortably stick the Pstyle in your underwear too?
I don't have that one but I got an STP device that looks to be like Whiz Freedom. It was very cheap on Ebay and it works well but I just hate the wetness there afterwards.  It's like, instead of helping, I get more mad at the anatomy all over again

It's the lightest skin tone so yes M7.

And the pstyle is waaay too rigid to pack with properly, but I've got a slim case that looks like a glasses case that I hook to my hip or put in my pocket. But the awesome thing about it being rigid is that you can kind of wipe with it and not have to deal with the wetness almost every stp has.

I has the same thoughts about how the bigger reelmagiks seem to sit flatter. >.< It's a tough decision but the material is suuuper squishy and forgiving. I wish the website posted how many inches thick the packers are because I think cis junk only sticks out one and a half inches.

Yeah, there really is no good way to conceal that pStyle in your underwear.  It is definitely an item to be carried in a pocket, or a case like Lorlor mentioned.  But, it sure works well!  NO leaks! Shakes off dry... Easy to sanitize... Clear color not very noticeable... Not sure how keen you are to this, but keeping minimal hair in that area really reduces the wet feeling, and as you pull the pStyle forward, it sort of collects most of the drips left behind.

I feel silly asking if it fit inside the underwear now.  I didn't realize how large the PStyle was since I only saw a picture of it by itself. It makes sense now.  I will consider the clear PStyle too.  I like the fact that it looks so ambiguous like people probably can't tell what it really is.
I used this one to be exact:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Female-Women-Urinal-Camping-Travel-Urination-Toilet-Urine-Device-LF-/161809202399?hash=item25ac947cdf:g:wl4AAOSw0JpV4SyW
At home when I wanted to test it while I wasn't packing, I used it like how people use packer type STPs by not taking it out my underwear through the fly opening and it works well but I really wish that there was the perfect 2 in 1 option. 
I think for the STP packer, I am going to save up for the Emisil but I don't understand why it has to be 5.5" and not smaller. Otherwise it looks great.
For now though, I will get a  regular Reelmagik but I can't figure out which color I am despite looking at the sample silicone images in their site.