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Hair Removal in Sydney - My Experiences

Started by Ella_bella, May 29, 2016, 08:53:28 PM

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Ella_bella

Hi Aussie ladies. Just thought i'd share my experiences recently with my hair removal journey.
I started seriously doing hair removal about June last year.

It all started with a bunch of research and shortly following the research I made the decision to purchase an IPL machine (semi-professional). Its the E-One Clinic. Its not laser, but its IPL. All of the reviews appeared to be positive and Im pretty lucky, most of my hair is dark and I have fair skin. The E-One isnt cheap. $2k. That buys a lot of laser sessions and a fair few electrolysis sessions. Now the E-One is great. I have had good results, its just very slow. It takes around 6-10 seconds to recharge after every flash, and each flash unit only lasts for 3000 flashes (new ones are $200). I also feel that it works much better on my body and legs than on my face.

I made the decision around November 2015 that I needed to seek out some more professional assistance with my facial hair. At first I went to a dermatology clinic near Broadway Shopping Centre. Now they told me they did laser, but it is in fact a Sciton BBL machine (IPL). The treatment was fairly painless, until I went to pay for it. $400 from memory. I felt that I did a poor amount of research prior to this appointment. In December I traveled to Canada for work and I was there for 2.5 weeks. I did some research whilst I was there and found a laser clinic in Ottawa that did in fact have a Candela Gentlelase alexandrite laser. So I made an appointment and even though it was roughly $200AU I happily paid it and went in for my session. WOW it was pretty painful. I have now learnt that there is pre-session preparation you can do (numbing cream), and post session care with aloe vera gel and ice packs. I had none of these offered to me when I went for my session. My face was very red, very swollen and took 2.5 days to return to anything that resembled normal for me. I had a heap of pustules from my follicles being zapped, and I generally felt pretty horrible about the experience. However, about 2 weeks after the trauma... I had a HEAP of hairs fall out. It was quite an excellent result.

I then did some research around what laser clinics are available for me near home in Sydney. I also did a bit of research on numbing creams. There is Emla cream which is 5% lidocaine. Now thats great, but I did some more searching and found a product that I ordered online from the states called Deeveeant "PowerNumb" which contains 5% lidocaine and 5% prilocaine. It does a fantastic job and the only place that I felt any real pain in my laser sessions since using this cream every time is my upper lip.

I found a laser clinic online in the Sydney CBD (City Laser Clinic) that had Candela Gentlelase alexandrite lasers. They seemed pretty cheap ($70 for full face and neck). So I went along and found the ladies there to be VERY Trans friendly and exceptionally good laser operators. Whats even better I found, was that the first visit was $70, and then each 2 week subsequent visit is only $35 (until you end up spacing out the visits to 4 weeks). So I have had 8 treatments so far there, and Im now at the point where I have maybe a dozen stubborn dark hairs that continue to regrow. I have a bit of grey hair on my chin, cheeks and neck - so its probably time for me to start electrolysis, and the electro can deal with the last stubborn dark hairs too.

The staff at City Laser Clinic are very good. The post care is fantastic, they provide the aloe vera gel and ice packs and allow you to take your time recovering from the laser session. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend anyone going there!





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AnonyMs

Quote from: Ella_bella on May 29, 2016, 08:53:28 PM
I then did some research around what laser clinics are available for me near home in Sydney. I also did a bit of research on numbing creams. There is Emla cream which is 5% lidocaine. Now thats great, but I did some more searching and found a product that I ordered online from the states called Deeveeant "PowerNumb" which contains 5% lidocaine and 5% prilocaine. It does a fantastic job and the only place that I felt any real pain in my laser sessions since using this cream every time is my upper lip.
nd anyone going there!

Thanks for posting that. I'm starting to get interested in this topic.

I don't like suffering so I've been researching anesthetics for a while.

If you order from the USA you can get Bioevolve numbing cream, which is Benzocaine 20%, Lidocaine 6%, and Tetracaine 4%. However you with a prescription here you could get it compounded, and add 10% DMSO as well. I'm not sure it is safe for laser though, as its very strong and you'd need to apply it to a lot of area. Someone has actually died doing that. Possibly good for electrolysis.

The endocrinologist Dr Jon Hayes in Sydney can do electrolysis with nitrous oxide gas and/or anesthetic injections. He doesn't do laser though.
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Ella_bella

Quote from: AnonyMs on May 29, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
Thanks for posting that. I'm starting to get interested in this topic.

I don't like suffering so I've been researching anesthetics for a while.

If you order from the USA you can get Bioevolve numbing cream, which is Benzocaine 20%, Lidocaine 6%, and Tetracaine 4%. However you with a prescription here you could get it compounded, and add 10% DMSO as well. I'm not sure it is safe for laser though, as its very strong and you'd need to apply it to a lot of area. Someone has actually died doing that. Possibly good for electrolysis.
Ah interesting. Well Ive found just the 5% Lidocaine and 5% Prilocaine has been really good. Ive got a fairly low pain threshold on my face.

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The endocrinologist Dr Jon Hayes in Sydney can do electrolysis with nitrous oxide gas and/or anesthetic injections. He doesn't do laser though.
Yes, Im planning on having my electro done there. Dr Hayes is my Endo (actually have an appointment to see him tomorrow).





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Ella_bella

FYI: My plan from the very beginning was to use laser/IPL to quickly clear my dark hairs and move onto electrolysis for anything that is left from the laser/IPL.





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AnonyMs

Dr Hayes is really good! Are you using implants? I love them.

I keep seeing suggestions that laser is not permanent and the hair will eventually come back. I'm a bit worried about doing laser first, because if it does come back its going to take an awful long time to get rid of it.
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Ella_bella

Quote from: AnonyMs on May 29, 2016, 09:54:13 PM
Dr Hayes is really good! Are you using implants? I love them.

I keep seeing suggestions that laser is not permanent and the hair will eventually come back. I'm a bit worried about doing laser first, because if it does come back its going to take an awful long time to get rid of it.

Im getting my first implant tomorrow. Very excited!

Laser is categorised as permanent reduction... in my experience so far its been VERY useful to quickly clear the vast majority of my beard. I have been told that once the initial sessions are done... you may only need one session per 6 or 12 months. Im ok with this as it quickly gave me confidence and I do believe that most of my hair will not grow back as Im one of the fortunate very dark haired fair skin people.





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Rikigirl

I go to Dr Jon Hayes as well but he has not mentioned hair removal! Has anyone used him for this? I really appreciate that he has the pricelists to get the best priced Progesterone! A very supportive  Endocrinologist!

Trouble is, it hasn't happened yet!
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Floritine

Thanks for mentioning Hayes does hair removeal AnonyMs, since he stopped the bondi practice (where Ive always gone ) earlier this year Ive seen him in St Leonards and wonder about his second room, Hayes has always been great and when I see him next I'll ask him....

Cheers Tracy
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Claire_Sydney

I do electrolysis at Dr Hayes's office. I don't have much to compare it against, but it seems really good to me. I've done about 20 hours.

The reason I was attracted to his office for this service (as well as for hormones treatment) was because I heard so many horror stories about the pain of electro. Because there is a doctor on site, they have excellent options for pain relief - he has lidocaine at 8x the strength of EMLA cream, and they have nitrous oxide gas, and dental blocks. He doesn't do the electrolysis work himself, but has a staff member that is a trained and licensed electrolygist.

It's also important to me to have an electrolygist I can trust. I feel pretty safe at Dr Hayes' office.

I also have friends who get electro at Permanence, and Nicholson's in Balmain and they both have a large trans client base, and are apparently both very trans friendly. I understand Nicholson's is the most affordable, but I just wanted the better pain relief, somewhere close to home, and someone I could trust.

I feel like I am getting close to finished with facial hair removal, hopefully. I've had 30-something laser sessions and about 16 hours of electro. I can't believe how much it keeps growing back!

Hope that helps. Good luck with your electro.




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Rikigirl

Thanks Claire,
It's great to get confirmation and feedback on Dr Hayes hair removal service! I usually see him at St Leonard's but have also been to his Mona Vale office as well. I have been going to Permanence at Drummoyne but was finding it a little expensive and painful. I am happy to pay more if the pain is reduced though! Not due to see Jon until May so I will ask then!

Trouble is, it hasn't happened yet!
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Ms Grace

I've been using Advance in Paddington. Very professional operation, very trans friendly with two very experienced techs. They have laser and multi-probe galvanic (which I've found to be really effective and permanent). Hayes did mention his set up to me but I'm staying with Advance as I only have a few more hours left.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Rikigirl

Thanks Grace,
Did you do any laser or all electrolysis? I was thinking laser could save money by allowing it to get rid of a lot of hair first then clean up with electrolysis. I would appreciate any comments you have on this.
Riki

Trouble is, it hasn't happened yet!
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Ms Grace

I was electro the whole way, sadly my hair was too light for laser to work. Laser, if it works for you, will definitely be faster and cheaper.

I was able to tolerate the pain of electro fairly well. Advance recommend you buy a tube of Emla which they keep with your file. They apply it to your upper lip at the start of treatment and will work on other areas for half an hour or more (to give time for the Emla to work) before starting on the lip. The cream can numb the area but there is still pain.

Advance give one, two, three hour sessions. I know it sounds hard core but I usually took the three hour sessions...the first two hours usually went by fairly quickly! ;D a few times I even did two three hour sessions in one day (now that was hard core). It really sped the process up!

My facial hair is mostly gone now after about 135 hours, still need a few sessions to deal with the rest.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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