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Do you think the trans community sometimes blinds ltself to issues

Started by stephaniec, May 31, 2016, 07:23:15 PM

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stephaniec

I was just curious how others feel about sometimes the transgender community can be too sensitive to issues that need to be explored. I know sometimes the trans community will put up a wall towards certain views they deem too offensive.  Ideas which I won't go into other than to say they come from the extreme left or the extreme right. As a transgender for all my life I'd like to know the thoughts of all sides of the issue. Do you as transgender feel that information even though viewed as offensive to a trans person should be at least expressed in some form or should it be deemed too offensive. I know one argument would be I really don't care to know about the views of others if its offensive to me. I know for myself my thought process can be rather radical , it's just the way I am.. I feel that a great amount of learning that can be accomplished by viewing life as it truly is and not filtered. I sincerely am not trying to provoke any conflict , but rather an immense  interest in the thoughts of the transgender community. I may be to obnoxious in my views and lf so I respectfully ask those offended to just ignore me , I sincerely mean no harm to anyone.I  just have a deep love for who I am and want to learn and help.I really am just trying to understand the community I am becoming so much apart of no more and no less. I'm asking this as just a generic question as regards the transgender community as a whole and not if reference to any particular indivual or any particular organization.
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RobynD

I believe in freedom of expression as long as such expression is not designed/delivered to incite hate or advocates violence, controlling others etc. I have a lot of conservative friends. I don't mind if they think I'm being sinful, un-Christian, you name it and i see a lot of it on facebook, they are entitled to think and express that.

Continual hate speech though, drives people to violence and it becomes a life or death thing for many people. Society will eventually dampen such viewpoints as it has with to some degree with racism, sexism, homophobia, etc., but it never fully goes away. 

When i hear quasi-hate speech, like the "Lgtb agenda is destroying our nation" it reminds me of the same sort of talk that preluded lynching, mass discrimination and even the holocaust. There is no place for that sort of discourse in public. People are easily manipulated with fear and hate and the purveyors of it know that very well. Societal pressure at every level is a check against such plans.

Instead of giving any time to ridiculous things like bathroom usage, why isn't society debating about poverty, how to drive peace, dampening of extremism, reducing inequality, reducing environmental danger, and dealing with a record incarcerated population? Those things could have multi-sided solutions and debate, but for some reason except perhaps in election years, you hear very little about it.





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suzifrommd

I'm not sure who decides what is "too sensitive". Certainly most trans people I know get sick to death of hearing transphobic comments, misgendering, oppression, discrimination, gender policing, and narrow mindedness. By the time we reach adulthood most of us have heard enough of that for a lifetime.

If I fault the trans community it's not blindness to the nastiness we face due to hypersensitivity. Instead it's the opposite. We're so convinced that transphobia is everywhere, permanent and unchangeable, that we decide it's not worth the effort to speak out against it.

The bathroom "debate" we're seeing now is a direct result of our community's fear up until now of educating the cisgender world on our bathroom needs and on our identities. Instead we let the cisgender media do it for us, and they do it badly. The only way out of our current predicament will be to make sure everyone understand what being transgender is and what it isn't.
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Luna Star

My personal humble oppinion is that many trans people tend to see too many things as transphobic behaviour.

It's of course hard to say when someone is being "too" sensitive but I feel you have to believe that most people honestly mean well and just don't know any better. And if you ever get in an argument with someone, saying they are transphobic or what they are doing is hate speech often doesn't help much.


Side note: A lot of trans people seem to have issues with people asking questions and getting upset even... I get that questions aren't always wanted but I don't feel you can ask for someones consideration of your situation if you are cold to them when they honestly mean well.
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FTMax

I am anti-censorship and very pro-unrestricted free speech. In my opinion, ideas are better when they are out in the open to be discussed, even if they have the potential to offend. Better to know who is a jerk than to be surprised about it at the wrong time.

But I also have a deep respect for folks who run groups within our community. It is hard work providing safe and supportive places to a population as vulnerable as ours, so it stands to reason that some ground rules are needed. In some groups, that's providing separate spaces for MTFs, FTMs, and non-binary people to discuss and get feedback on issues specific to them. Some groups want a personal reference from a current group member to ensure that letting you join won't be a bad decision. Others have a select group of topics that are not up for discussion. The beauty of it is, if one place isn't for you, there are loads of others to choose from that may be more open to that kind of discussion.
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stephaniec

I have no argument or conflict with anyone wanting there own space , but the other side of the issue the  onlyy way for understanding and learning of what separates us is to find what unifies us.
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alex82

To an extent yes. Understandably.

I don't think it's anyone's business, and you have a right to not enter into a q&a session with anyone who's pushing you. The same right as anyone else.

If you want to tell them, it's up to you. But they can find out what they want to know on the Internet, without expecting someone to take time of their normal day to explain and debate deeply personal and intimate feelings and experiences.

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stephaniec

my approach to things is  that the ultimate path to understanding and solving conflict is to open knowledge. It's kind of like the ludicrous  nature of some scientists is to use such a brilliant tool for education as the internet as thas their personal capacity to sell their research in the quest for profit rather than enlightenment of the masses . Basically  who owns Newtons formula for gravity or Einsteins modification of Newtons law.What if the fundamental laws of nature were deemed too offensive to nature and forbidden to be published.
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