is it weird to feel like this? it makes me feel bad sometimes like a ->-bleeped-<- or fetishy or something, and I think ->-bleeped-<-s are gross. At the same time it almost seems like a logical thing for a predominantly homosexual trans woman to want someone like themselves. like that's kind of what homosexuality is, right? you're attracted to the same sexual traits you have?

like at the end of the day, I would date kind of whoever, boy, girl, in between, but when I imagine my ideal partner, it's a woman with a penis. I kind of think female penises are beautiful really, there should be more positivity about that I think, but maybe that's another topic.

anyway, thoughts? anyone else feel this way?

Being attracted to a trans person does not make you a ->-bleeped-<- or an admirer or gross or whatever, you kind of need to ditch that type of thinking. I know one trans woman near to where I work and I find her very attractive, but not specifically because she is trans just because she is attractive. As to what plumbing configuration she might have I don't know and don't care it's not important, it's her I like not her genitals. Besides I need to work up the nerve to ask her out for a coffee first!

Quote from: Draculess on June 01, 2016, 02:53:46 AM
is it weird to feel like this? it makes me feel bad sometimes like a ->-bleeped-<- or fetishy or something, and I think ->-bleeped-<-s are gross. At the same time it almost seems like a logical thing for a predominantly homosexual trans woman to want someone like themselves. like that's kind of what homosexuality is, right? you're attracted to the same sexual traits you have?

like at the end of the day, I would date kind of whoever, boy, girl, in between, but when I imagine my ideal partner, it's a woman with a penis. I kind of think female penises are beautiful really, there should be more positivity about that I think, but maybe that's another topic.

anyway, thoughts? anyone else feel this way?

Sexuality is sexuality who you're attracted to is just who you're attracted to i don't think what you're feeling is wrong. I'll also tell you something I've never liked the term ->-bleeped-<- the more i learn about some terms like that to more i find it's really just name calling and that's not okay. So what, as long as you are a respectful person and accept peoples comfort zones and understand them and can work something out who cares if you're attracted to people like yourself. There is nothing wrong with loving who you love and please don't let the word ->-bleeped-<- make you think you're a bad person because its a word often used in the wrong way without consideration that not everyone is loving trans people for the wrong reasons and some of them are just curious and asking questions in the wrong way. I don't even like the words like that i just don't same with stereotypes and labels.  If it helps, i am also attracted to transgender people like myself. (No you're not a ->-bleeped-<- in other words and sorry for my crazy adding/editing i get obsessive with how i word things)

I don't think it's weird. I can't say that I'm partial to trans people because I don't really know any in real life. I do find many transmen attractive. If I wasn't married, I would be more than happy to be with a transman I was attracted to.

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I'm extremely partial to other trans people, we understand each other better.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 01, 2016, 04:39:06 AM
Being attracted to a trans person does not make you a ->-bleeped-<- or an admirer or gross or whatever, you kind of need to ditch that type of thinking. I know one trans woman near to where I work and I find her very attractive, but not specifically because she is trans just because she is attractive. As to what plumbing configuration she might have I don't know and don't care it's not important, it's her I like not her genitals. Besides I need to work up the nerve to ask her out for a coffee first!

well yeah, totally, if I haven't made it clear, I like people and get in relationships more on personality than anything. even gender itself is kind of down the list. so I agree that genitals don't really matter or anything, I just kind of "like" female penises the way people "like" larger female breasts or larger male penises. like it's kinda superficial at the end of the day. although, I think removed from that, I have an easier time relating to another trans woman because of shared experience and I think that can be meaningful. I think it would be abhorrent to date someone just because they're trans or something though like it's a novelty, that's what I'm talking about when I use the word "->-bleeped-<-".

No more or less partial to trans folks than I am to cis folks. If you're cute, you're cute. My only firm requirement if I'm dating another trans person is that they are at a place in their transition where they are comfortable with themselves. I don't like doubling down on dysphoria. It is no fun, and a relationship ruiner in my experience.

Since being on HRT my sex drive has gone very low. I think woman and transwoman are attractive and several I like and would like to be friends with to do activities but sexually, not really.

I think we throw around terms like "->-bleeped-<-s" because of our insecurities after suffering years of dysphoria. We feel in our weakest moments that we're repulsive and unloveable and become suspicious and paranoid if anyone expresses interest in us. I've seen trans people say they won't date bi people and other trans people say they won't date monosexual people, all because they're afraid of their own dysphoria.

That said, yes there are horrible people in the world who seek out partners with low self esteem. And there are plenty of creepos (of every gender) who have gotten stupid ideas about trans people be it from porn or tumblr and think that all trans people are sexpots who are into certain fantasies and apparently aren't real people who shouldn't be rudely propositioned in public places. Or who think being in public while MTF means you're a sex worker. That is very wrong.

But I think it's very common for trans people to date other trans people because of shared life experiences or even because of shared interests (maybe meeting at the support group or social groups). That's ... pretty normal, I think. Also, trans people are more likely than cis people to be bi or gay anyway.

Midnightstar is right, it's name calling, pure and simple. The problem is, calling someone that is dehumanizing them. It's also sex shaming, which isn't acceptable. Finally, it is projecting your own values on someone else. Those are activities we abhor when they are applied to us. Let's be decent humans and treat others the way we want to be treated.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Midnightstar on June 01, 2016, 04:41:19 AM
  Sexuality is sexuality who you're attracted to is just who you're attracted to i don't think what you're feeling is wrong. I'll also tell you something I've never liked the term ->-bleeped-<- the more i learn about some terms like that to more i find it's really just name calling and that's not okay. So what, as long as you are a respectful person and accept peoples comfort zones and understand them and can work something out who cares if you're attracted to people like yourself. There is nothing wrong with loving who you love and please don't let the word ->-bleeped-<- make you think you're a bad person because its a word often used in the wrong way without consideration that not everyone is loving trans people for the wrong reasons and some of them are just curious and asking questions in the wrong way. I don't even like the words like that i just don't same with stereotypes and labels.  If it helps, i am also attracted to transgender people like myself. (No you're not a ->-bleeped-<- in other words and sorry for my crazy adding/editing i get obsessive with how i word things)

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Quote from: Devlyn Marie on June 02, 2016, 10:12:10 AM
Midnightstar is right, it's name calling, pure and simple. The problem is, calling someone that is dehumanizing them. It's also sex shaming, which isn't acceptable. Finally, it is projecting your own values on someone else. Those are activities we abhor when they are applied to us. Let's be decent humans and treat others the way we want to be treated.

Hugs, Devlyn

U R spot on correct honey.

Hugs, Jennifer xx

Quote from: Ms Grace on June 01, 2016, 04:39:06 AM
Being attracted to a trans person does not make you a ->-bleeped-<- or an admirer or gross or whatever, you kind of need to ditch that type of thinking. I know one trans woman near to where I work and I find her very attractive, but not specifically because she is trans just because she is attractive. As to what plumbing configuration she might have I don't know and don't care it's not important, it's her I like not her genitals. Besides I need to work up the nerve to ask her out for a coffee first!

Happy dating darling! 

Since I went full-time Jennifer 24 / 7, I have had real-life in person intimate sexual relations with about 40 (forty) adult men + ONE cis (non-trans) lesbian girl + 2 or 3 trans girls + a couple of cross-dressing men.

So, um, I guess one could say -- Jennifer wants MEN. 

The fact that you feel attracted to beautiful trans girls like me is nothing to be ashamed of. My particular combination of body parts is part of who I am,along with my intelligence and friendliness. I feel no insult that thousands of men feel attracted to me, Jennifer. I am very beautiful as you can see on my FB public page.

Many trans ladies indeed don't like it that others -- mostly men -- are largely attracted to them because of their particular combo of body parts. And more power to fellow trans ladies who feel this way.

My feelings about this matter are different. Maybe in part because I have gone to full time Jennifer later in life and I;m sort of "making up for lost time" since I missed out on dating men as Jennifer in my youth.

Medical HRT has blessed me with superb beauty and youthfulness so I feel happy to be the center of attention for so many men all over the world.

I feel it is plenty alright honey for you to be attracted to trans ladies.

Hugs,
Jennifer Lopezgomez