Anyone have experience with this? I'm not able to get a GRC as of yet but I'm wondering if I could get away with putting my gender as male on my passport form. I don't want to risk my passport request being denied; but at the same time I obviously don't want an F on my passport. Surely they won't scrutinise the gender on my form and former passport too closely. Any advice or should I just put F as my gender and hope future employers don't notice? I hate this country sometimes 

Says here they require proof documents for any changes:

https://www.gov.uk/changing-passport-information/changing-your-gender

Passport is one of those things they do scrutinize pretty closely. IIRC they also want the old one back if you have one already.

Quote from: T.K.G.W. on June 28, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
Says here they require proof documents for any changes:

https://www.gov.uk/changing-passport-information/changing-your-gender

Passport is one of those things they do scrutinize pretty closely. IIRC they also want the old one back if you have one already.

Thanks; I just hate having to put F on my passport. I don't want future employers to know I'm trans. You'd think the people looking over the passport forms would be sympathetic and overlook it; but I know that's a bit of a reach. I guess I'll have to suck up the dysphoria and put F on my passport

Not quite ready to do mine yet but so this is others experience not mine but if your committed and have some medical support from a GP or GIC or private then changing your gender on your passport is supposed to only be a matter of a letter from your GP or GIC to say your gender change is expected to be permanent.and your name change only needs the deed poll.

So no need for GRC or ticking the other box and hope.  Pop down to your understanding GP and get them to pen a letter and your on your way to M and then you can use the passport to update your Driving licence and practically everything else.

GRC pretty much come down to Birth certificates, HMRC and overnight stays at Her Majesty's chain of secure hotels. Its more or less illegal for anyone else to ask to see it, and the latter two above are based on the Birth certificate rather than GRC.

Quote from: Lisa55 on June 28, 2016, 03:35:53 PM
Not quite ready to do mine yet but so this is others experience not mine but if your committed and have some medical support from a GP or GIC or private then changing your gender on your passport is supposed to only be a matter of a letter from your GP or GIC to say your gender change is expected to be permanent.and your name change only needs the deed poll.

So no need for GRC or ticking the other box and hope.  Pop down to your understanding GP and get them to pen a letter and your on your way to M and then you can use the passport to update your Driving licence and practically everything else.

GRC pretty much come down to Birth certificates, HMRC and overnight stays at Her Majesty's chain of secure hotels. Its more or less illegal for anyone else to ask to see it, and the latter two above are based on the Birth certificate rather than GRC.

Thanks; I hadn't considered this. There's no mention of doing it this way on the government website; only of showing a GRC. I may take the risk and do it this way. Here's hoping it doesn't get rejected.

Straight from the government with bold for emphasis, note you only need one document for evidence not all of them

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/251703/Applying_for_a_passport_additional_information.PDF

QuoteYou have a valid British passport in your birth gender but wish to apply
for a new one in an acquired gender.
Please follow the guidance on how to make changes to your existing passport in the "Applying for
a passport" booklet. 
You should select the "Changes to your existing passport – New Name" option under section 1,
as we do not record gender change as a specific category on our application form.
Under section 2, you should complete the details relating to your acquired gender, but you will
also need to include previous names used in your birth gender.
In addition to your old passport, you will need to include one of the following as part of
your application:
•
a birth or adoption certificate in your acquired gender
•
a Gender Recognition Certificate
•
a letter from your doctor or medical consultant confirming that your change of gender is likely to
be permanent, and evidence of your change of name such as a deed poll.

Dunno why you hate this country sometimes; our passports are actually amongst the easiest in the world to change. We don't need to have undergone any medical transition in order to change the gender marker on our passports, and we certainly don't need a GRC either. Contrast this to some other countries where it is impossible to change the gender marker or name on your passport, or to others that require you to have been sterilised before you can change your documents. We've got it easy, believe me.

As Lisa posted, all you need is your old passport; your original Deed Poll (or Stat Dec) of name change; and a letter from either your GIC or your GP (GIC is better) stating that you've changed gender and you intend for this change to be permanent. Most GICs will give you this letter free of charge, but your GP may charge you for it.

Then you fill in the form - you can do it online, even whilst changing your gender on the passport - with your new name in the current name box, your deadname in the 'previous names' box, and then you submit the original documents together with a cover letter (which isn't essential, but it helps smooth things along) explaining that you need your name & gender marker changed as you're transitioning. You'll no doubt want a new photo, too - and this has to be countersigned as it is likely to be significantly different from your previous photo.

It's really simple to do, and it doesn't take any longer than a standard passport application.

BTW, most countries require proof of citizenship or entitlement to work if you apply for jobs. This isn't a British thing; in fact, it took a very long time for the British government to catch up with what the rest of the world has been doing for decades!

Thanks FTMdiaries. I appreciate how easy it is to change documents in the UK; but the process to get a GIC is annoying and unnecessary. I can't even apply for one until next June. Plus I wish they'd mention the letter alternative on the government website 

I already took a new passport photo; which looks a lot better than my last passport photo . And I already have the passport forms with the countersign bit for the GP to sign. I made an appointment for Monday so here's hoping it goes well.

Good luck!

My new passport photo kinda freaked me out when I compared it to my previous one: I look like an older brother in the new one & a younger sister in the old one!

You will definitely need a letter from a doctor of some sort, and the bit about the change being permanent is the most important part. Without that wording, your application might be rejected.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 30, 2016, 02:53:30 PM
Good luck!

My new passport photo kinda freaked me out when I compared it to my previous one: I look like an older brother in the new one & a younger sister in the old one!

You will definitely need a letter from a doctor of some sort, and the bit about the change being permanent is the most important part. Without that wording, your application might be rejected.

I compared it to my old one too taken when I was 16 and had the same thought; thank god for T