So I guess I'm in between in my transition where I have quite a few of mixed features - both masculine + feminine features alike. And I know I've said I usually wear Bootcut Skinny Jeans and simply a Teeshirt does that send mixed signals to people? I mean right know we all have some crap titles people been labeling us of lately, which are highly inappropriate and hurtful. Of lately I been called a Trans Man >.<; I mean sure I look younger + I'm not really all that tall anymore either, but eh? Does anyone get that being called a Trans Man for an MTF or a Trans Woman for being FTM?

I waited 7 years before jumping into trying to transition. During that period of time, I did a lot of thinking about it and watching the news where trans people get offended because misgendered, mis-pronouned... I personally resolved to not care about that. I'm also surprised if I suddenly see a trans person that doesn't completely pass, it's difficult for me not to glance at least a second, I mean that was the case in those 7 years, now I look at them to maybe cross the eye and connect that we are on the same boat. So if I'm surprised and not sure how to react, imagine someone little or not aware of trans issues, they might get a shock for a few seconds... I understand. If they chose to misgender in an angry attitude, as if saying I'm wrong in my choices, I chose to ignore for it leads nowhere. Not that I don't think trans issues shouldn't be advocated, they should and I will I think be holding the trans flag in the future, I mean really do things like write and volunteer to help other trans people here in my city, but right like that on the spot when you get called whatever, the best is just to ignore in my opinion.

as for clothing, I really wish I had money. I had bought a few items, some a little more feminine, other shirts looser that partially hide my growing tits... I also now possess very cool pinky running shoes lighter and more feminine, and alltogether, things go much better out there if there is less a mix of features. I try to walk the more possible like a girl, not very hard I actually always have.... I'd like to get halter tops, shorts, strappy tops, skirts..... I think I would look more normal, it would fit with the rest, my hair, my manners. I think it's mostly the mix of things that attract one's mind and contradicts in there, somefing 

After my pelvic rotation I just physically couldn't walk like a guy I tried to see if I could and it just wouldn't work for me. How I dress really isn't the issue though clearly they were women's, but I do know I have a few masculine traits + that doesn't bother me one bit. But Trans Men just look younger than they should be. I guess I dunno, but to be called that in person? The thing is they didn't call me a guy in girl's clothing, they literally said Trans Man seriously.

When I started, in 1991, I was called much worse. I won't even post those words here, as I am sure they against the forum rules. Even long before that, the things my adoptive mom called me were very hurtful as well.

Only once, did anyone think I may have been a trans man. That was one of the times I had moved, and needed a new primary care doctor. When I told her I was trans, she thought I wanted to become a man.

Quote from: Raye on July 13, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
After my pelvic rotation I just physically couldn't walk like a guy I tried to see if I could and it just wouldn't work for me. How I dress really isn't the issue though clearly they were women's, but I do know I have a few masculine traits + that doesn't bother me one bit. But Trans Men just look younger than they should be. I guess I dunno, but to be called that in person? The thing is they didn't call me a guy in girl's clothing, they literally said Trans Man seriously.

Are you sure it wasn't one of those mixed up ignoramuses who thinks that MTF = Trans Man?

Quote from: Lady Sarah on July 13, 2016, 04:01:22 PM
When I started, in 1991, I was called much worse. I won't even post those words here, as I am sure they against the forum rules. Even long before that, the things my adoptive mom called me were very hurtful as well.

Only once, did anyone think I may have been a trans man. That was one of the times I had moved, and needed a new primary care doctor. When I told her I was trans, she thought I wanted to become a man.

I'm so very sorry to hear that Sarah. Trans People in general have it tougher than any one I know of. BTW 1991 was my birth year!

Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on July 13, 2016, 07:55:22 PM
Are you sure it wasn't one of those mixed up ignoramuses who thinks that MTF = Trans Man?

Quite sure he seemed to be educated on the matter and, but he was very confused. I can be mistake for an FTM sometimes. Even Pre-HRT I was always asked if I was transgender man at my university. I didn't really change much before or after being on HRT.

Quote from: Raye on July 13, 2016, 09:28:02 PM


Even Pre-HRT I was always asked if I was transgender man at my university. I didn't really change much before or after being on HRT.

In high school, people thought I was already on female hormones, largely because I never went into puberty until I was 17. This was 1984, way before kids were allowed anything to change their gender. It made having female friends easier, but I had just a few male friends.

I had it so tough that, no matter how many fights I was in... the only suspension I had was for beating up a boy right in front of the principal. I think the staff all could see what I was going through.

That seemed to be the case for me too Sarah, regarding puberty-ish part. ^^ I looked like I was 11 or 12 when I was 17 -.- oh the dysphoria. >.<;

I've been misgendered, and called a few things 
But never straight out been called a Trans Man or Trans Woman. I've been called sir repeatedly, whilst obviously presenting as female, which hurts.
But I guess it goes with the territory.
I remember once before I transitioned and I was going into the male loos at work, and a guy coming out of the loo tried to block my path and said "hey this is the gents, the ladies is round the corner".
To which I replied in the deepest voice I could muster "Yeah, I know it's the gents!" and I pushed passed him.
But I don't generally dress in a very feminine way most of the time. It's usually jeans + T-shirt + trainers for me, and I remember once (a couple of years after transitioning, and after my op) I was out shopping in a busy shopping centre, and a group of teenage girls started heckling me for being (in their eyes) a lesbian (!). For some reason I got a real lift from that, as at least I wasn't being misgendered! But it was the one and only time I've been loudly and openly heckled in a busy situation with many people present.
Strange really, as when I was younger, and way before my op, I used to go out clubbing in Birmingham, and sometimes I'd wear a sari and bracelets and a bindi and all the associated embellishments, just for the heck of it. And I never once got heckled or had insults thrown, in fact I actually got a lot of very positive attention. It's a funny old world!

Probably the most awkward to think about was that fact that before HRT, everyone called me a girl or a woman ... and then for a couple years after starting HRT, being called a guy or a dude.

I feel like this id very common for people who are confused about transgender people, its not so much abrasiveness as it is confusion and naivete.

Someone might be confused whether 'trans women' refers to a woman becoming a man or a man becoming a woman (Hint: its neither, but they dont know that)


MTF and FTM clears that up a little but its even less commonly known as a term than transwoman and transman by the common people