There has been here in Transgender Talk a very good recent thread about Facebook denying account access. This good thread has gotten about 35 replies, but what's now happened to me with FB needs a new thread. I have been summarily cut off from more than 4,000 friends and if it were not for my current excellent real life, I might have already done my own suicide over this. So TRIGGER WARNING I will discuss some very happy things in this thread, but I also seek advice on how to get back my communications with more than 4,000 fb friends but also discuss how this type of emotional friendship cutoff makes me have thoughts of my own suicide.

My online social life is currently heavily through Facebook. Yeah I'm here at Susan's and in a few other online places but I've developed my Twitter and Youtube accounts very little and I just sign-up for Instagram. On Facebook I've had outstanding social relationship success. Currently I have more than 4,000 Facebook friends and the limit is 5,000. I've recently been getting 80 to 120 new friend requests a day so I have figured to reach the 5000 friend limit in a month or two. It seems usually only models, very beautiful women, and famous men have the 5,000 friend limit. Plus I currently have about 700 Followers on too of the 4,000 + friends. Most of my friends are ADULT MEN but there are many trans ladies and some cis ladies among my friends. Many of my Facebook friends I've met in real life but as is common in social media nowadays the majority of friendships are from a distance. For example I don't believe I've met anyone from Susan's face to face. I've met dozens of trans ladies face to face. I have had good success at turning Facebook friendships into real-life dates with men and real-life friendships with women.

So yeah my real life in work is super, who I live with and around is super in real life, shopping center and beauty salon and the occasional evening out in real life all super. Hardly anyone can tell I'm trans!!! 99% of the people I deal with face to face in real life are cis (non-trans) and most of them cannot even detect that I am trans. This is pretty much living my dream to be seen as simply beautiful lady JENNIFER -- the trans part rarely comes up (except on a date with a man obviously).

But I still feel enough emotional distress to be summarily cut-off from more than 4,000 friends -- many of whom I've met face to face and many including those I haven't met face to face are GREAT friends with whom I've had dozens of hours of conversation via chat or video call. In the last 24 hours since being cut off from 4,000 friends I have felt suicidal thoughts again because I feel despair about summarily being denied access to so many friends.

The world is a treacherous place, Many people ARE out to get me and do me harm. Usually I approach people with kindness and friendship -- but many people -- both non-trans and trans -- online -- don't like how I dress (young and sexy), don't like my strong progressive political opinions, don't like how I flirt with men, don't like the fact that I am trans, or are jealous of my successes and happiness -- and do whatever they can to harm me. Such people would probably cheer if I were to kill myself -- I have been rather honest open and public over the years with my suicidal feelings. Even by posting THIS thread I am taking some risk. There are enough people who DO care -- but I also risk online information I disclose including this thread as doing me harm as well. I don't care at this point -- I now will take that risk. I have the ability and means to end my life at any time. I live now just a few minutes from a tall building for sure I wouldn't survive a jump and there is no handrail in part of the building I have already scouted this out on a previous occasion when I went there and almost jumped. But enough people DO care so I am certainly listening for good advice here.

I am probably not the only person in the world, trans or non-trans, who has felt emotional despair when cut-off from either face to face or online friendships. I'm probably not the only person in the world who has felt suicidal over something like this.

I recently publicly published on Facebook that I will likely soon start THE JENNIFER SHOW after I get my boob job to DD or DDD. Wherein I will present LIVE somewhere on the Internet beautiful JENNIFER modeling bathing suits, lingerie, blouses, dresses, shoes, nails, hair. Beauty and makeup talk, discussing my dating, social commentary on current political events from a strongly progressive human rights viewpoint, sharing some of my transition experiences, and so on. Well -- someone may be jealous of this or disagree with my strident political viewpoints. I plan to demonstrate catwalk runway style on THE JENNIFER SHOW in which I have received quite a bit of professional training. I will also SING which I recently did in front of television cameras.

I suppose no one can stop me from choreographing and producing and broadcasting THE JENNIFER SHOW, except if someone murders me, or induces me to do my own suicide. The end of my life would stop any and all emotional suffering. I accept my own mortality. I probably WILL end my life by my own suicide -- it is not really a question of IF, just a question of WHEN. For now there are plenty of happy things in my life but I don't care if these words are widely spread. I will end my life by suicide when this becomes a necessity for me to do.

I wonder if Facebook cut me off because I have on various occasions over the years expressed honestly my suicidal feeilings. They say they want to help in suicide situations but hey you emotionally cut me off suddenly from most of my online friends and you might just CAUSE my suicide. Rather ironic. Alynis Morrisette once wrote a song about "ironic."

I might have to sign up for my own web hosting and domain name in a country that truly would respect my right to do THE JENNIFER SHOW with me in swim suits and sexy lingerie with zero ability for vindictive people to do me harm. It isn't that expensive for something basic. From what I've heard the country of ICELAND might be just where I need to obtain my own Web site in a country that TRULY respects human rights and freedom of expression.

Many famous models and very beautiful women on the Internet produce their own LIVE shows like this. Some friends of mine on Facebook some of whom I've met in face to face are beautiful women and do their own LIVE shows online in social media. I wonder how THEY handle jealous people or people who don't like trans people ? Well, because I've been summarily cut-off from 4,000 + Facebook friends, I've lost a large segment of my friends and sources of inspiration and advice. Cut-off now.

Yes I have publicly published many photos of myself in swim suit or short sexy dress or blouse, but all clothed and you've seen some of my photos of this model-type here. A bikini is permitted by Facebook rules and even the rules at Susan's. On Facebook clothed lingerie is permitted. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of beautiful women publish their bikini and lingerie on Facebook. So, why am I now summarily cut off emotionally from 4,000 friends just because someone is jealous of me, disagrees with my political viewpoints I've posted on Facebook, doesn't like the fact that I dress sexy-young while in my 50's -- hey it's MY body and I can dress sexy-young if I want to in pink hot pants or short dress if I feel like it.

Facebook on the first sending to them in the last 24 hours of a scanned copy of my authentic female-gender United States Passport quickly back to me and said by email "we cannot verify that you are the owner of this account based on the information you have provided." WHAT ??

I see -- just about the most solid piece of proof of identity in the world -- my genuine United States Passport which I've used to travel internationally in person on 3 continents -- isn't sufficient for an American-based company like Facebook. I don't have enough money to sue them in court and I am currently outside of the United States.

I sent them a second copy of my passport this time more enlarged. They haven't responded back to me yet and this was about 12 hours ago. After they denied my first sending of my passport they listed it as "case closed."

Does anyone have better ideas on how to get my 4,000 friends back

Yeah, I saw the ideas in that other thread here at Susan's and yes I would be capable of using the idea some people suggested of a "second account." However I googled this and many people reported that Facebook shut down their "new second account" within a week on the grounds that one is not permitted to have more than 1 Facebook account at the same time. I cannot off the top of my head remember the names of 4,000 friends obviously even if I COULD keep a "new second account." However I am probably already too high-profile for this idea to work anyway -- especially if I start producing THE JENNIFER SHOW.

Publicly or privately, I'm listening with all ears.

Jennifer Lopezgomez, which is by the way my full legal name on my genuine USA Passport, and Jennifer Lopezgomez is also my Facebook account name and my Susan's account name.

Could it possibly of been because you weren't in the U.S. They can track your IP and they might see you in a different country then normal and lock your account. I've had it happen to me while traveling abroad. Oddly enough while traveling to the US.

Quote from: descending_angel on July 16, 2016, 12:26:59 AM
Could it possibly of been because you weren't in the U.S. They can track your IP and they might see you in a different country then normal and lock your account. I've had it happen to me while traveling abroad. Oddly enough while traveling to the US.

Thank you much for your reply. 

I've lived outside the USA for 10 years. In the last 8 years I've entered the United States exactly ONCE and this was for just 1 week to visit a family member. I have lived in various countries.

Currently I often use a VPN. This might spook them somehow, but seeing as how I'm logging in using the same laptop nearly always it SHOULDN'T spook them that that see different IP addresses sometimes. xx

Unless your VPN has stopped working or has been flagged. Many VPNs/proxys have been flagged recently to keep people from outside the U.S from accessing U.S content.

Quote from: descending_angel on July 16, 2016, 12:44:28 AM
Unless your VPN has stopped working or has been flagged. Many VPNs/proxys have been flagged recently to keep people from outside the U.S from accessing U.S content.

Yes and that is rather unfortunate. It is one way to control and distort information from flowing freely. I pay about 10 dollars monthly for my VPN service -- it works MUCH better than the free services. The VPN service is openly available legally and I pay for it with one of my USA credit cards.

Did FB say why they were blocking your account? "Real Name"? Wrong Password? Suspicious Activity? Complaints?

Quote from: lisarenee on July 16, 2016, 11:06:07 AM
Did FB say why they were blocking your account? "Real Name"? Wrong Password? Suspicious Activity? Complaints?

They said violating community standards -- and if this powerful corporation actually had someone to communicate with, I could point out that all of my public bikini and lingerie photos of myself Jennifer comply with Facebook community standards. So, how can I communicate with a large and powerful and rich company that controls a heavy percentage of the social media in the United States and worldwide when they summarily in one step refuse to accept my GENUINE USA passport, which  is just what requested that I do as a first step.

Unless they soon rectify how they have wronged me by at a minimum getting a customer service person human being answering, I will then contend that they have committed a grave moral wrong against me.

Maybe they didn't like my rather blunt progessive political posts about human rights like trans rights, minority rights, women's rights, and so on.

Facebook normally operates on a "complaint only" basis, so one or more people ARE out to get me.

I'm losing my faith in humanity. It's a good thing I have a super good face to face life this weekend in work and face to face friends, otherwise I might be ending my life this weekend due to Facebook's cut-off of the majority of my online social life for no valid reason and in summary judgment unilaterally on their part and not allowing me any input in their so far uniateral decision.

I feel it is morally wrong for big powerful rich corporations without even permitting a discussion with a customer service representative at a minimum minimum minimum, to exercise such extraodinary power and control over people's lives and friendships in this interconnected digital age.

I wonder if any progressive lawyers would take a legal lawsuit by me against them pro bono (means free no legal fees, as a matter of defending free speech and human rights). I sure the heck don't have enough money to hire a USA lawyer. Lawyers in the United States are extraordinarily expensive.

In law this is called "inequality of bargaining power" because they have all the power and money. This is a moral wrong.

In general announcements, they say they are against my suicide. I don't believe them. Cut-off from so many friends often causes feelings of deprival and missing friends in many people, and feeling isolated is a proven cause of suicide. So I simply don't believe them when they say they are against my suicide.

Jennifer xx

I'm not an expert on the subject by any means but I believe that Facebook has automated processes for reporting content and profiles.  If x amount of reports come in in y amount of time or something of that nature a post can be removed or an account banned without any human interaction at all.  I do believe there's ways to appeal but am not sure how offhand.

Quote from: TardisGurl on July 16, 2016, 12:41:44 PM
I'm not an expert on the subject by any means but I believe that Facebook has automated processes for reporting content and profiles.  If x amount of reports come in in y amount of time or something of that nature a post can be removed or an account banned without any human interaction at all.  I do believe there's ways to appeal but am not sure how offhand.

Okay I will look further into that. Thank you so much ! 

Jennifer xx

Being locked out of your account for this reason only occurs if someone reports your profile. Facebook doesn't "patrol" for this. Unfortunately there's no way to find out who reported you. I would continue to dialogue with Facebook and see what they would need from you to verify your identity. A Passport should be sufficient by itself, but if you could couple it with other means of identification like a driver's license or some kind of insurance card, that may help expedite the process.

I have one friend that this happened to, and unfortunately it took several months for him to straighten it out, though at the time his name hadn't legally been changed so that likely contributed to the delay.

I have ONE friend an fatface. It's the most inane twoddle in the world.







Paula, X.

Quote from: FTMax on July 16, 2016, 01:15:14 PM
Being locked out of your account for this reason only occurs if someone reports your profile. Facebook doesn't "patrol" for this. Unfortunately there's no way to find out who reported you. I would continue to dialogue with Facebook and see what they would need from you to verify your identity. A Passport should be sufficient by itself, but if you could couple it with other means of identification like a driver's license or some kind of insurance card, that may help expedite the process.

I have one friend that this happened to, and unfortunately it took several months for him to straighten it out, though at the time his name hadn't legally been changed so that likely contributed to the delay.

Thanks much for your reply. My name and gender I long since legally changed. By Facebook's own rules a Passport alone is sufficient.

Dialogue is fine if a dialogue were to occur. So far I have only the automated responses from them which I have described in details here.

One of the the evils present in social media is that ONE enemy can cause a faceless non-customer service corporation like Facebook to do something like this. There was the big public protest a year or two ago for trans people and drags performers having big problems like this due to legal name requirements,

You are almost for sure correct that at least one enemy of mine "reported" me. And yes you are almost for sure correct that I cannot find out who the enemy or enemies are.

24 / 7 if I don't have anyone to socialize with at that moment, I have since becoming Jennifer full-time had hundreds of people worldwide and multiple people mostly MEN want to chat with me immeidiately when I come online on Facebook. I've had outstanding success with this.

I've also been cut off from about 30 different Facebook groups I am a member of. Facebook deserves about every 4 letter word one can think of to describe what they have done against me, but I won't use any of those words here.

Yeah I have the ability to make 4,700 or more NEW online friends, but what about my existing relationships on Facebook, many of which bring me great happiness.

My inbox is very empty.

I might just be better off killing myself now.

I just sent the following to a Facebook contact method I learned about:

ACCEPT MY PASSPORT OR I WILL COMMIT SUICIDE. You asked for my United States Passport identification via scanned copy while blanking out the passport number. I have done this twice. You replied alleging you cannot confirm I am the owner of this account. Do you honestly mean to tell me that a genuine United States passport matching my account name, with photo and date of birth, is not sufficient? This is absurd. I have submitted what you have asked for. Don't keep denying I am the owner of this account. Also, my own public photos of ME in my bathing suit and ME in lingerie compies with Facebook community standards. You have now cut me off suddenly from my primary sources of online friendships without warning and without justifcation. You have made me feel SUICIDAL again by cutting me off from most of my friends for no valid reason. If I commit suicide in the next few days because you make me feel ostracized and lonely, my death from my own suicide will be YOUR fault. How can I talk with my online friends again ?


I then re-submitted an enlarged copy of my Jennifer Lopezgomez United States Passport with the passport number blanked out.

They replied to me with the following within 5 minutes:

I then resubmitted for the FOURTH time, an enlarged copy of my genuine female gender USA Passport, with my photo and date of birth and name, and blanking out the passport number for privacy protection, just as they requested.

They sent an automated response within 1 minute, the same automated response I got previously, saying they will answer back to me shortly. We will see....

Am I psychotic ? Dunno about that either way, but I'm emotionally upset enough about loneliness and not being able to chat with my many friends who are on Facebook, that if necessary I will follow through on my suicide I've so many times almost done anyway. If that makes me nuts, so be it.

I don't feel hysterical or crying right now. Just a quiet certainty that I will do what needs doing.

I just took an extra Progesterone. When it takes effect in under an hour or so, I should feel better for the moment.

Micronized Progesterone is one of the more wonderful things in my life.

If I live to do THE JENNIFER SHOW, I would probably talk sometimes on my show about what things have sometimes caused me to want to end my life.

So here is what these corporate monsters just sent back to me. It is the same thing they sent me a day ago or so:



This is part of what happens when one gives huge faceless corporations such power.

Facebook has given tons of problems to the Transgender Community about IDs over the years.

So, Facebook corporate monsters -- you really DON'T give a s.

AN AUTHENTIC USA PASSPORT WITH MY NAME, PHOTO, AND BIRTHDATE ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR FACEBOOK, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE SUBMITTED EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE REQUESTED.

The world is mostly an EVIL place. I feel awful. F Facebook.

You might not hear from me again anytime soon, or at all. This remains to be seen.

Signed lovingly but regretfully,
Jennifer Lopezgomez
Beautiful and kind and genuine full-time transgender lady xx

The below photo is an example of the type of lovely sexy beautiful photo of JENNIFER that Facebook hates and my online bully enemies hate. Many of my photos are MODEL-QUALITY.

I wonder how supermodels deal with rubbish such as this when they publish their short dress revealing some cleavage, swim suits, and lingerie shots. Having a lot of money and a team of lawyers on one's side likely helps a lot.

Facebook has harmed many of my online trans friends in a similar manner.

I now feel Facebook hates trans people. Go ahead and shoot me or harm me if you like.

At least I know I am a beautiful WOMAN. And no one can take THAT away from me.

If they aren't accepting your Passport, it means that there was some piece of information on it that did not match your profile. Is your name printed on your Passport exactly as it is listed on your Facebook? Would you have used a different date of birth than what is on your legal documents?

Facebook isn't actively out to get trans people. Their Real Name policy doesn't make it easy for a lot of folks in our community, but they aren't targeting us in particular.

Emotionally I couldn't handle dealing with this for several days, but now I have felt emotionally able to send the following to Facebook:


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This is REALLY depressing for me because you have suddenly cut me off from so many of my friends. I have needed several days to partly recover from the emotional damage you have done to me from the social isolation you have caused me. My passport is my GENUINE United States Passport that I have used to travel on 3 continents in person. If this paasport, which is good enough for the Immigration Officers of several countries in person, and good enough for United States Government officials, it should certainly be good enough for Facebook What better ID could you want than my United States Passport -- and Facebook is a United States based company. Your own guidelines say a USA Passport is fine to verify my account. And that I include EITHER full name and photo OR full name and birthdate -- while whiting out sensitive parts such as passport number, SSN, etc. So I have now done. this herewith. This scan of my passport is clearer than the previous scans of it that I sent you the previous week. Well, I have done as you requested. I hope this makes it so my account is confirmed and that I can resume contacts with my many friends and followers, and that this can be done without further runaround by you and without YOU putting me into suicidal depression again over the loss of my friends you have caused me. Today is Sunday,July 24, so I I hope to hear a positive reply from you by about Tuesday, July 26.
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Well Facebook answered back quickly enough.

They closed the case for about the fourth time -- they appear to NOT be willing to accept my genuine female gender USA passport which I have used in real life since going full-time female to travel to several different countries on 3 different continents. This is obviously totally hypocritical rubbish -- what government-issued ID is more solid than a Passport -- and especially since in this case Facebook is an American-based company and my Passport is American also --

Facebook bowed under the social pressure of real-world demonstrations by trans people, drag queens, and cross dressers in front of their corporate headquarters in California a year or two ago. Many of my trans friends have suffered some real problems at the hands of Facebook. But under severe negative publicity a year or two ago Facebook changed some aspects of its procedures with the trans, drag, and crossdressing world. But apparently not enough.

If you don't believe me, you can google this topic and read many newspaper articles about this from a year or two ago.

I won't give up yet.

However, I have found that I face much less discrimination against me online in the Spanish-speaking world than in the English-speaking world -- both in Europe (Spain) and in Latin America. People in the Spanish-speaking world seem to better accept that I like to dress sexy young in real life as well as online. As is my legal right as well as moral right. It is MY body -- not the body of any other person.

I just sent the following to Facebook:

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Stop making me have suicidal thoughts from being cut-off from my friends. I have sent you valid copies of my USA Passport. I have already gone public with this on on Transgender Web Forum that you are out to harm Transgender people. You now say for about the fourth time "case closed. If I had enough money I would sue you in US District Court as I currently reside outside the United States but I am a USA Citizen. I will now seek other avenues to get this resolved, including more publicity in Social Media describing that you refuse to accept a clear crisp scanned copy of my genuine United States Passport as ID. Do you want protests by Transgender People outside your corporate offices, or what ?
UNQUOTE