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Price of SRS in Thailand

Started by Tess2016, July 20, 2016, 05:03:49 AM

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Tess2016

Hello to all of you.... This is my first post, but I have read many before joining your forum.. So many interesting points of view.

I have have been researching the cost of SRS, which seems to vary so much.. I live in Australia where the cost of SRS is out of my price range, around $37,000Aus, the quote I received today. To me thats a total rip off price and shame on that surgeon. That is huge money for around 6 hours of surgery. It seems I need to be rich to be a transgender wanting SRS in Australia.. Besides that, the required skills are very limited in Australia where mistakes are made, and I am assuming this is the case with other countries around the world.

This is why many transgender members here seem to look to Thailand for their SRS needs... But even the cost of SRS in Thailand seems to be getting out of hand.. Thai surgeons seem to be using the transgender community as a production line in carrying out one surgery after another as quickly as they can, with a river of gold going to their greedy pockets... I have read so many reviews some good and some bad. It has to be remembered that many of the surgeons in Thailand are not trained surgeons, they are just G.P.'s or M.D.'s The letters FRACS after a Doctor's name indicate they are a fully trained and qualified Surgeon not purely a G.P. or M.D.

I have listed some pricing from Thailand. We, the transgender community have more power over the pricing than you might think. One voice will always remain silent but many will get us heard. Here are the most recent pricing obtained this month, July 2016. I will just make mention of the main top doctor.. If I have made any mistakes please correct me. Some of these pricing including accomodation and food but it has to be made clear that accomodation and particularly food in Thailand are cheap.. I guess some consideration in this can be taking into consideration when reading the pricing here, you will need to work out the total price yourself according to your needs. I must also point out that I am only making mention of the SRS pricing and NOT FFS.. These are totally different processes and need to be kept separate since I personally might trust one doctor to do my SRS but in no way would trust them to do my FFS. 

Dr. Kamol Pansritum at the Komol Hospital. He is an M.D. Price 286,000
I think its a good option and affordable.

Dr. Boonchai Thanyalakpark M.D. at the Yankee Hospital. Price 295,000
I like the fact that the SRS is carried out at a main Bangkok Hospital with many highly skills doctors but, only M.D's

Dr. Chettawut MD is "board-certified". I will be contacting the Thailand Medical Board on this statement. Being Board citified does carry a lot of weight but is it current?? He charges 340,000 which is beginning to get high.. To be honest I really hate it when surgeons use Stock Photos of naturally beautiful women on their web sites. For me, I just get too many warning bells ringing in my ears when I read about Dr. Chettawut..

Dr. Sanguan at the PPSI in Phuket. He charges 400,000, beginning to get very high and he is still only an M.D... I am still researching this mob.

Dr Suporn M.D. Are you sitting down??? 565,000 as of today, and it seems to be going up around 10,000 to 15,000 each year. He mentions price rises. OK, girls.. I would avoid this doctor totally.. Unless you are rich, or have rocks in your head. This doctor is just getting far too greedy... There is simply no justification for his pricing. Higher pricing does not mean better surgery. I have read on many forums and reviews that he makes just as many mistakes with poor quality surgery as other surgeons who charge a lot less.. You will just be part of his production line with some Thai lady at the desk counting your money. He is supposed to offer a Life Time guarantee. Well, if I had a Life Time guarantee offered to me in Australia it would mean something but with this man.. Ya sure!!

Lastly in this current list.. The PAI. Dr. Preecha Tiewtranon has a wealth of knowledge in SRS but he does not do it anymore. As I understand Dr.Sutin Khobunsongserm, MD carries out the SRS, but there seems to be a very knowledgeable team behind him. To me Dr. Preecha is not a sleazy man. He looks like a very genuine knowledgeable surgeon without all the fancy web site and Stock Photo media. I have just received a PDF showing the yuck process and after photos, far too much information, but its not fake its real.. I like the fact they are in Bangkok. Just one small snag. I cannot seem to get them to send me a price list. They talk about the extra charges on their web site but I cannot find their pricing.. If their pricing falls into the 320,000 range, I will choose this team for my SRS. I would love to hear from others who have used the PAI..

Tess
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Tess2016

Hey again.. That is funny.. No sooner I posted this thread, I received the pricing from the PAI.. WONDERFUL!!.. $8600 USD which is 301,000. Why pay 565,000.. or even 400,000.. To me the PAI is the best option. I am so happy there pricing is within my budget. It includes 5 days in a private hospital.

Tess
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Mariah

Hi Tess, welcome to Susan's. I have no clue, but I'm sure others maybe able to. I have moved your post to the GRS section where others may know. I look forward to seeing you around the forums. Good luck and Hugs
Mariah



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AnonyMs

I believe SRS in Australia is more like A$13-17k with Dr Any Ives in Melbourne, after medicare and insurance discounts. Given the reviews I've read he's the only one worth considering here.

SRS with Andrew Ives in Melbourne Australia
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,196033.0.html

SRS in Thailand ranges from US$2000 to Dr Suporn at the top, and the quality is from extremely bad to world class. Just bear in mind that if something goes wrong in Thailand you've got no chance of doing anything about it. Not much chance in Australia either, but its much worse there. I'd not go to any surgeon I couldn't find decent independent reviews of. There's plenty of information available in Dr Suporn, and Chettawut, and not nearly so much on the others. There's reports of problems with all surgeons, but some are much better/worse than others.

This is by far the best post I've seen on PAI. She did an incredible amount of research and could have gone anywhere, but chose PAI.

My wonderful surgeries SRS, BA and FFS at PAI Bangkok
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,204651.0.html

This is interesting too

Wonderful transition without any RLE
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=209027.5

Dr Suporn (who I like)
https://www.the-ress.net/files/SRS-With-Dr-Suporn-2015.pdf
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TinaVane

Quote from: Tess2016 on July 20, 2016, 05:31:20 AM
Hey again.. That is funny.. No sooner I posted this thread, I received the pricing from the PAI.. WONDERFUL!!.. $8600 USD which is 301,000. Why pay 565,000.. or even 400,000.. To me the PAI is the best option. I am so happy there pricing is within my budget. It includes 5 days in a private hospital.

Tess
Within a much better graded hospital I might add


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Tess2016

Thank you so much AnonyMs for those links. Her journey is wonderful and I am so glad it all worked out for her. It seems the PAI is looking more likely to be my choice. They do everything including voice. After reading more into their website and doctors, I read that they have extra training and become "board-certified".. That is excellent..

Did you know that with Dr Suporn, you do not even have to be on hormones. They say that the WPATH are only a guild and therefor do not hold to it. Basically, if you have the money and walk in with hairy knuckles and a beard, they will do the SRS.. I guess there will be ladies who would go to him but for me I would not even consider him.. or recommend him.

Tess
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Devlyn

He's right, WPATH is a non-binding protocol. There are other standards of care out there as well that are based more on the patients  wishes than the doctors wishes.

"Basically, if you have the money and walk in with hairy knuckles and a beard, they will do the SRS"

Gonna be blunt...that's none of your business, and it's pretty rude. Beauty standards have no place in the decision to transition.

Welcome to the site. I hope you find the information you're looking for, and I  hope you learn something about acceptance while you're here, too.

Hugs, Devlyn
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Ellement_of_Freedom

Quote from: Tess2016 on July 21, 2016, 06:25:32 AMDid you know that with Dr Suporn, you do not even have to be on hormones. They say that the WPATH are only a guild and therefor do not hold to it. Basically, if you have the money and walk in with hairy knuckles and a beard, they will do the SRS.. I guess there will be ladies who would go to him but for me I would not even consider him.. or recommend him.

Tess

That's not true. They require a letter from your psychiatrist and another from a local (Thailand) psychiatrist.


FFS: Dr Noorman van der Dussen, August 2018 (Belgium)
SRS: Dr Suporn, January 2019 (Thailand)
VFS: Dr Thomas, May 2019 (USA)
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mmmmm

I have got only one thing to recommend. Choose based on results (in relation to your aesthetic preferences) and level of care you are going to recieve. Price difference should be the last thing that matters.

Quote from: Tess2016 on July 21, 2016, 06:25:32 AM
I guess there will be ladies who would go to him but for me I would not even consider him.. or recommend him.

There are already more than 200 ladies patiently waiting in line for their surgery (booked until 2018). They dont need more recommendations. Someone will appreciate that you are not taking their date :)


As for dr. Burin and dr. Sutin, they are both good surgeons, you will be in good hands if you choose PAI. As you live in Australia, you are relatively near Thailand... maybe you should consider making a trip there, arrange consultations with all surgeons you are interested with.. so you get first hand information and get to see plenty photos of their results. And have some vacation.
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Mariah

Quote from: mmmmm on July 21, 2016, 10:34:06 AM
I have got only one thing to recommend. Choose based on results (in relation to your aesthetic preferences) and level of care you are going to recieve. Price difference should be the last thing that matters.


This most definitely. Hugs
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AnonyMs

Quote from: Tess2016 on July 21, 2016, 06:25:32 AM
Did you know that with Dr Suporn, you do not even have to be on hormones. They say that the WPATH are only a guild and therefor do not hold to it. Basically, if you have the money and walk in with hairy knuckles and a beard, they will do the SRS.. I guess there will be ladies who would go to him but for me I would not even consider him.. or recommend him.

Well, I'd shave my beard off before going, I'd not like to stand out like that. I've no intention of socially transitioning if I can help it, but that doesn't mean I don't want SRS. I just don't want to risk all the things I value in my life over social transition. I think it reflects well on any surgeon who's prepared to help people in need, and he would be far from the only one if he does.

I'm not aware of anyone who's gone to Suporn without HRT, but some transwomen have medial problems preventing them taking HRT (like estrogen sensitive cancer), and good for him if he helps them regardless of what anyone else says. I do think you misjudge Suporn as everything I've heard about him indicates he cares far more about his work than he does about the money.

WPATH has no legal standing anywhere that I know. There's is however a law in Thailand requiring psych letters before SRS, and as far as I know its only country with such a law. Personally I dislike WPATH, but at least its better than what went before. Plenty of doctors ignore it, for better and worse.
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Tess2016

Quote from: mmmmm on July 21, 2016, 10:34:06 AM

There are already more than 200 ladies patiently waiting in line for their surgery (booked until 2018). They dont need more recommendations. Someone will appreciate that you are not taking their date :)

As for dr. Burin and dr. Sutin, they are both good surgeons, you will be in good hands if you choose PAI. As you live in Australia, you are relatively near Thailand... maybe you should consider making a trip there, arrange consultations with all surgeons you are interested with.. so you get first hand information and get to see plenty photos of their results. And have some vacation.

Yes please, leave my dates free  ;) Oh to be rich and profusely affluence in financial resources. Its evident this DR. will continue to charge higher rates while he is supported. Taking into account the CPI of Thailand and the average wage of a Thai person, he is actually charging much more than most surgeons anywhere in the world. But hey.. If he can get away with it with his loyal clients where it seems are willing to under go over priced SRS in my view, then that is there choice. I just cannot see any reason to pay an extra 264,000 bart for the same outcome. I would rather put that money towards my other feminine transformations.

Thankfully there are many other surgeons in Thailand who are much more affordable. If they all charged the same as DR. Suporn, I could never afford to have my SRS done.. and that would have been a big worry and very upsetting.. The PAI seems to have it all, including fair pricing.. I will go and check them out in January. I also understand that foreign exchange rates might well make Suporn easily affordable with their exchange rates. The AUS $ has dropped quite a bit as late..

Yes, I am booked for a trip in January.. I have read heaps about Dr.'s Burin and Sutin.. Very well recommended.. With any surgery we all need to feel confident we are choosing the the right surgeon for our needs. I have just received my DNA and chromosomes results back as well as other results. It seems I have, without any HRT treatment, an extremely high level of natural oestrogen in my blood and amazingly my hips are at a development level normally found in a 18 year old girl.. Doc said it might explain my very late puppetry .. I will be happy to become the women I should have been born to be, which all starts with HRT and SRS.. closely followed by FFS.. ;) 

PS.. I have had PM. Sorry I cannot respond yet.. But I really appreciate your advice.. Hugs to you..

Tess..
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Tess2016

Quote from: mmmmm on July 21, 2016, 10:34:06 AM
I have got only one thing to recommend. Choose based on results (in relation to your aesthetic preferences) and level of care you are going to recieve. Price difference should be the last thing that matters.

So basically you are suggesting there is no need for this price listing SRS topic. "Price difference should be the last thing that matters." It does if on a budget. Not everyone can afford Suporn's prices. Aesthetic preferences is important but not at any price.. My first preferences is acutely quality of surgery/surgeons, their skills, history and my safety..

Tess..
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Serenation

I'm curious which Australian Surgeon quoted 37k. I know quite a few people that had srs in Australia as well as having it in Australia myself. I agree that price shouldn't be your top priority.

That said SRS is cheaper in Australia than it is in Thailand, AnonyMs is correct its about 13k
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kelly_aus

Quote from: Serenation on July 22, 2016, 08:03:29 PM
I'm curious which Australian Surgeon quoted 37k. I know quite a few people that had srs in Australia as well as having it in Australia myself. I agree that price shouldn't be your top priority.

That said SRS is cheaper in Australia than it is in Thailand, AnonyMs is correct its about 13k

I got a similar quote when I was looking in to SRS.. It came from a Sydney surgeon - whom I later discovered I didn't really want to use.
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Serenation

Quote from: kelly_aus on July 22, 2016, 08:08:09 PM
I got a similar quote when I was looking in to SRS.. It came from a Sydney surgeon - whom I later discovered I didn't really want to use.

I know someone who had srs in Sydney would be odd for the price difference to be that much. So it was 37k after medicare and private health insurance?
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kelly_aus

Quote from: Serenation on July 22, 2016, 09:12:48 PM
I know someone who had srs in Sydney would be odd for the price difference to be that much. So it was 37k after medicare and private health insurance?

That was the total price, no mention of Medicare or insurance covering any of it.
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Tess2016

Hi.. Actually is more than I said.. $41,500 in total..

I sent a request to Assoc Prof Peter Haertsch in Sydney http://www.haertsch.com.au/procedures-surgery.html

He respond with this.

Together
Surgery $37500
Anaesthetic $2000
Assistant $2000

No detailed information, nothing more than this. I feel he is so out of touch. Every response I received from Thailand I received details in what they provided. There are no details on his web site either..

Tess...

Quote from: Serenation on July 22, 2016, 08:03:29 PM
I'm curious which Australian Surgeon quoted 37k. I know quite a few people that had srs in Australia as well as having it in Australia myself. I agree that price shouldn't be your top priority.

That said SRS is cheaper in Australia than it is in Thailand, AnonyMs is correct its about 13k
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Tess2016

Hi.. No mention about Medicare or Private Health so that would be the price full price. I do not have private health insurace anyway.. Too expensive. Not sure that SRS would even be covered since its elective. I never investigated yet if medicare covers any part of the SRS. I am currently seeing a Gender Doctor, I will ask him.. He is simply a beautiful man who really cares.. He is looking after me and coordinating with my own GP and Psychologist. I have yet to see a Psychiatrist, which I have to before SRS.. He will arrange that for me.

I will investigate other options for SRS in Australia. Clearly Prof Peter Haertsch is the brother to Suporn  :D :D  ;)..

Tess..
PS.. Does everyone have to do an IQ test each time I post.. Or is is only up to a certain number of posts.. I realise Spammers would be an issue...???

Quote from: kelly_aus on July 22, 2016, 10:28:05 PM
That was the total price, no mention of Medicare or insurance covering any of it.
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Serenation

Quote from: Tess2016 on July 22, 2016, 10:58:07 PM
Hi.. No mention about Medicare or Private Health so that would be the price full price. I do not have private health insurace anyway.. Too expensive. Not sure that SRS would even be covered since its elective. I never investigated yet if medicare covers any part of the SRS. I am currently seeing a Gender Doctor, I will ask him.. He is simply a beautiful man who really cares.. He is looking after me and coordinating with my own GP and Psychologist. I have yet to see a Psychiatrist, which I have to before SRS.. He will arrange that for me.

I will investigate other options for SRS in Australia. Clearly Prof Peter Haertsch is the brother to Suporn  :D :D  ;)..

Tess..
PS.. Does everyone have to do an IQ test each time I post.. Or is is only up to a certain number of posts.. I realise Spammers would be an issue...???

Hi Tess Not all of SRS is covered by medicare and private health but certainly the majority of it is. Medibank paid 13000 towards mine and I think  medicare was about 9k. Andrew Ive's requires you have both. Thailand certainly is a good option if you go with the better known surgeons.

All but basic hospital cover, pays out for cosmetic surgery and surgery that benefits psychologically which is how they spin srs.

I assume the "iq test" is just for a certain amount of posts, I recall there is restrictions on private messages and avatars till a certain post threshold is met.
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