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Would you undergo a brain surgery to become cis?

Started by Sebby Michelango, July 28, 2016, 07:56:47 AM

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Would you undergo a brain surgery to become cis?

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Sebby Michelango

If you were offered a brain surgery so you could turn cis, would you undergo it? If you undergoes the brain surgery, your mind would be changed, not whats between your legs. Then your mind would match your anatomy/biological sex. That means a trans woman gets a male brain and a trans man gets a female brain. If you're a non-binary, you would stop being it and turn a binary-gender - that one that match your sex.
(Btw, I know it doesn't exist brain surgeries that can change your gender "gender change" - literally. But this is just a mind game just for fun)


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Deborah

No.  The essence of me is in my mind.  So what you propose would be no different than suicide.  While I have in fact considered that option in the past, I really do not want to die.
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Megan.

Not to make me cis, but if they could take away my GD, then I'd be the first under the surgeons knife.
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KathyLauren

Not a chance.  The real me is that voice in the back of my head that I've been ignoring for the past 61 years.  I like that person and I want to be her.  Well, I already am her, but I want to set her free.  I agree with Deborah that getting rid of that voice would be like suicide.  No, it is transition or bust for me.
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Michelle_P

No.

Doing that, making such a basic change to my mental structure, would mean that whoever wakes from the surgery wouldn't be me.  That person might have access to my memories, but would have a very different personality, behavior, and mannerisms.  I would be dead.

It is really nothing more than a socially acceptable form of suicide, destroying me and replacing me with a socially conforming simulacrum.  I'm sure such a 'cure' would make certain parts of our transphobic culture very happy, certainly happier than sharing a bathroom with one of us.  I'm not sure it would actually be ethical.
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Katja69

Not in a snowball's chance in h***.  Besides the fact that I am quite paranoid of needles, my mind is what I value most.  Sure my outside may not match what I see in my head, but there is no way a person is going to "lobotomize" the only good and valuable aspect I have.
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JMJW

If brain surgery ever becomes that advanced, just think of how advanced and attractive an option surgical and medicated transition would become.

On the back of that alone, no chance.
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Mariah

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Elis

Yep; in a heartbeat. I'm quite fem so I'd fit in being female. Plus I'd have the added benefit of lived experience as a trans person; so I'd still be accepting of LGBTQ people. I'd still have the personality I have now. For me it's easiest option; without the hassle of medication or surgeries or fear of transphobia
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Lady Sarah

Nope. No chance in hell. I have totally adapted to being a woman, and without any T, I can gladly say brain surgery would be pointless.
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KarlMars

No, because my soul is male and male it will stay. I'm convinced that's better for me to be male and will never feel any differently.

Serenation

Made this choice once before, Take T or take E
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warlockmaker

I feel I'm blessed to live two lives in a lifetime. There is nothing wrong with my brain I am the third gender ....and so happy to now accept that.
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BeverlyAnn

Not a chance!  I consider being trans a gift I've been given, kind of like Joni Mitchell's, "I've looked at life from both sides now..."  It's not something I want to give away.
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Sebby Michelango

I would never undergo that form of "gender change" aka. brain surgery to make my mind match what I was assigned at birth. Being trans is difficult sometimes and sometime I wished I was a cis guy. But I wouldn't change my brain to female, it's change who I'm as a person - like a society accepted suicide. I rather have things like it's today than undergo that.
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Amanda_Combs

It's funny that I came in ready to say I would never do that.  As I was reading comments, I completely changed my tune.  I don't plan on getting any surgeries, because If possible, I like to avoid them.  But, if that surgery existed, I think I'd have to do it.  The primary thing keeping me from suicide is worry about my family.  If a similar person, would take my place, I would jump at that opportunity.  I've wanted to check out since I was 12, just having that method to do it would be a big relief.
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HappyMoni

I say no! Sorry to any trans men reading this but staying in a guy's body, yuk!
I want the surgery like the one in Young Frankenstein. Set one table up with a trans woman and the other up with a trans man and hit "the third switch!" Presto chango, everyone is happy.
Moni

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CarlyMcx

No.  I am unique the way that I am.  Why would I give up being unique to be just another guy?
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Deborah

I don't even really dislike the body I have.  It's actually a pretty good one.  It's just not the right one for my mind.
Love is not obedience, conformity, or submission. It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being....  - Dan Barker

U.S. Army Retired
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Michelle_P

Quote from: Deborah on July 28, 2016, 02:06:59 PM
I don't even really dislike the body I have.  It's actually a pretty good one.  It's just not the right one for my mind.

Yup.  My chassis is OK.  I just need to tweak the accessories a bit.  ;)

It's far easier to make a few changes to my body than to rewire a few trillion interconnections in the brain.  Plus, I get to be me, not something fabricated to keep the transphobes happy.
Earth my body, water my blood, air my breath and fire my spirit.

My personal transition path included medical changes.  The path others take may require no medical intervention, or different care.  We each find our own path. I provide these dates for the curious.
Electrolysis - Hours in The Chair: 238 (8.5 were preparing for GCS, five clearings); On estradiol patch June 2016; Full-time Oct 22, 2016; GCS Oct 20, 2017; FFS Aug 28, 2018; Stage 2 labiaplasty revision and BA Feb 26, 2019
Michelle's personal blog and biography
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