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Squirebuffy1990

August 06, 2016, 10:44:39 AM
People in MTF trans communities usually identify patches and injections as getting the most successful feminine results on the body.

Patches are safer and more potent than pills longer term and are now being offered to younger transgender girls and not just for over 40's or people who smoke etc.

Is there anything reliable or scientific to say estrogen injections get better results than patches?

Discuss!
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Lady_Oracle

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August 06, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
From what I've been told by others, patches are a pain to keep on for various reasons. Injections you know what you're getting and its once a week or once every two weeks. So its pretty easy to stay consistent, which is key in having a successful hrt regimen.
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purplewuggybird

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August 06, 2016, 12:37:41 PM
I'm currently on pills (which my trans expert Doctor prescribed) and they have been working quite well-- and no injections!


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Brooke

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August 06, 2016, 12:52:01 PM
On patches- I actually found they stay on very well.

The key for me is to prep the skin and hands with alcohol wipes.

I would also be interested on the efficacy of patches vs injections. I've only found a few references that say injections yield better results.  Agreed that most of what I've seen says parches are lowest risk.


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Chris Gothenburg

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August 06, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
what about estradiol gel? I take gel and I think it works ok but of course if somebody has better experieces with patches... I think pills are worth to consider or to consider to shift to patches because of the first pass efect of the liver. gel and patches go over the skin, so the burden for the liver is typically lower.
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kelly_aus

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August 06, 2016, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: Chris Gothenburg on August 06, 2016, 03:30:41 PM
what about estradiol gel? I take gel and I think it works ok but of course if somebody has better experieces with patches... I think pills are worth to consider or to consider to shift to patches because of the first pass efect of the liver. gel and patches go over the skin, so the burden for the liver is typically lower.

I'm on patches, they suit me fine. No problem keeping them on. Now, I wouldn't be using gel, it's too easy to share - as some of the guys using T gel will tell you.
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LilDevilOfPrada

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August 06, 2016, 04:46:15 PM
I have used on pills even forgetting a few days every now and then with great results. The main factor for pills over injection was the insane pricing difference and I have no regrets with pills.
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Rachel

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August 06, 2016, 06:56:38 PM
I never did patches. I did pills and now injections. After getting use to injections I like them much better than pills.
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August 06, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
I'm almost three years in and have been doing injections for all but about 1.5 months of that... I don't know if divinities data exists because there are so many factors in play it would be hard to attribute different results in a study to the method of administration alone. I can tell you i am glad I didn't jump the gun and get implants because I am happy and still seeing growth..... I had GRS 15 months ago and got the post-op bump as well... I never did patches because I do long runs several days a week and thought I might have uneven dosing and adhesion problems due to sweating!!!

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KayXo

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August 15, 2016, 01:09:02 PM
Feel and look better on injections vs orals BUT breast growth is less.
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DawnOday

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August 15, 2016, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: Lady_Oracle on August 06, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
From what I've been told by others, patches are a pain to keep on for various reasons. Injections you know what you're getting and its once a week or once every two weeks. So its pretty easy to stay consistent, which is key in having a successful hrt regimen.

Lady Do you have to travel to the Doctors to get the injections? I am already old hat as I am a diabetic. but I understand the shot has to be in the muscle rather than the fat and so has a needle that is intimidating.
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tgirlamg

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August 15, 2016, 02:58:43 PM
Hey Dawn!... Yeah the 1.5" needle looks a bit intimidating the first couple times but I got used to it quickly... I alternate left and right sides of the butt each week... Left side is slightly more awkward since I am right handed
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becky.rw

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August 15, 2016, 03:00:23 PM
my patches stay on fine, but they accumulate a rectangular mark around the edge from dust or lint, and tend to leave a bit of a mark when removed.

I'll stay with them though.
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purplewuggybird

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August 15, 2016, 03:02:25 PM
I think it's important to note that basically the effectiveness is dependent on how well the estrogen gets absorbed by the body. Following this logic an injection or pill would get the best "result" because the most amount of estrogen is entering the body directly


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