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FTM: Do I pass and which age do I pass as?

Started by Sebby Michelango, August 24, 2016, 10:05:38 AM

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Sebby Michelango

The pictures are about one to two years old, but I hasn't changed so much since then. The picture to right where I have shortest hair is the oldest picture. I wasn't happy with that haircut, so I'm not going to use that again. The picture to left are the most accurate how I looks like today.

My questions are:
1. Do I pass?
2. Which age do I pass as?
3. Can I pass with long hair too, or is short hair most recommended? I wants some haircut advice.

Link to pictures of me:
http://sebbynilsen.deviantart.com/art/Face-Reveal-630061066

I considering long hair, because I thinks long hair looks awesome and I wants to try something new. I've seen many cool male celebrities with nice hair.



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Jacqueline

I do think you pass. The photos do read as pretty young. 13 or 14? I'm not good at that sort of guessing.

Purely my opinion: I think longer hair would tend to give more of an androgynous  quality.

Warmly,

Joanna
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
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Cassuk

Hmm, my guess is around 8-12 years old.

And ya you do pass as a young boy on the picture. Not sure with longer hair but i would guess.
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Sebby Michelango

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DawnOday

Is that what you are really looking for? Passing. Far more important IMHO is acceptance as a member of the female community. No snide remarks, just another human living life as they feel it should be lived. I always hope certain people with closely held religious belief would read the passages. Love thy neighbor as thyself, Judge not lest ye be judged, Though shalt not kill. And most importantly. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.
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Peep

I don't think you look much younger than you are, maybe only a year or two

As for the hair, I think you should try it -- you could always cut it short again if you find it doesn't work for you long
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Maria77

You look like a teenager, and it's often hard to pinpoint the age of teens.  I think that you could pass, depending upon how you carry yourself.  If you want to pass, it probably will not help to grow long hair.  The guys you have pictured have some strongly masculine features to offset the hair.  Your features are more androgynous, so long hair would probably make you appear more feminine. 
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lionheart

I think you pass, but as a very young boy (10-12). If you want to continue passing, I would avoid growing your hair out too long until you go on hormones. Also just so you know, there is a thread in the FTM section for posts like this.
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arice

Sebby, I think you pass but as a young boy. Your face looks more like an 8-10 year old (definitely prepubescent). I don't know how tall you are but if you are too tall for an 8-10 year old, that might help you stretch it to 12...
But, honestly, in those pictures, you don't look much older than the boys in my son's grade 1 class.

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alex10

You pass 100% in my opinion, and you look 12-13 years old. Growing out your hair might make it harder to pass (as it does for young cis boys) but I think itd suit you
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zirconia

Hi, Sebby

The pictures seem to be in the order of maleness starting from the left. In the first three you pass, although the third from the left is on the androgynous side. While still somewhat androgynous the hairline and the way you carry your head in the rightmost one makes you look most feminine (in it you look very similar to a male friend of mine did at that age—his expression when he laughed was almost identical).

As for age, I thought you looked around 13 or maybe 14 in the pictures—which makes sense if they are two years old. That said, I live in Asia so elsewhere people may perceive you to be younger. Anyway, at that age bone structure has not really differentiated so expression, hairstyle mannerisms and clothes would probably be the main determining features.
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KarlMars

Sebby, you look about 10 to me, but I hope you're able to start T before you're 18 because you will develop into a mature looking man then. I think you look more masculine with short hair. Your hair looks best in the last picture.

Sebby Michelango

Quote from: alienbodybuilder on August 29, 2016, 07:29:31 AM
Sebby, you look about 10 to me, but I hope you're able to start T before you're 18 because you will develop into a mature looking man then. I think you look more masculine with short hair. Your hair looks best in the last picture.

Thanks for reply. My parents doesn't allow me to medical transition before 18. So I would probably not getting T before I'm 20 years old, because the examination would take about 2 years in Norway before I can start. 80% gets treatment refused due strict policies, but 20% receives treatment. I doesn't want my parents too much involved because they can affect the examination results and they might come up with false facts that might make the therapists refusing me the treatment. That's why I would rather wait to I become 18 before I'm traveling to the capital city to the examination. There aren't any second option according to some LGBT*-organisation than receiving treatment from Oslo's Rikshospitalet (hospital) and if you get a no, you have to traveling abroad which cost a lot of money (when it comes to surgery). I've no ideas when it comes to HRT.
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KarlMars

Quote from: Sebby Michelango on August 29, 2016, 09:17:25 AM
Thanks for reply. My parents doesn't allow me to medical transition before 18. So I would probably not getting T before I'm 20 years old, because the examination would take about 2 years in Norway before I can start. 80% gets treatment refused due strict policies, but 20% receives treatment. I doesn't want my parents too much involved because they can affect the examination results and they might come up with false facts that might make the therapists refusing me the treatment. That's why I would rather wait to I become 18 before I'm traveling to the capital city to the examination. There aren't any second option according to some LGBT*-organisation than receiving treatment from Oslo's Rikshospitalet (hospital) and if you get a no, you have to traveling abroad which cost a lot of money (when it comes to surgery). I've no ideas when it comes to HRT.

Sorry about how complicated it is in Norway. I hope you are able to transition as soon as possible. I heard if you're under 21 or under 25 possibly T will make you grow in height more than you normally would. I'm 27 and start T this Friday. Good luck.

Sebby Michelango

Quote from: alienbodybuilder on August 30, 2016, 06:02:12 PM
Sorry about how complicated it is in Norway. I hope you are able to transition as soon as possible. I heard if you're under 21 or under 25 possibly T will make you grow in height more than you normally would. I'm 27 and start T this Friday. Good luck.

I hopes I would get enough T facial and voice changes. I doesn't expect to be very tall due I'm from Asian ethnic. I'm ca. 1.50 cm. Congrats to you by the way.
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