Guess How Much That Anti-LGBTQ Law Is Costing North Carolina

By Emma Grey Ellis

https://www.wired.com/2016/09/guess-much-anti-lgbtq-law-costing-north-carolina/

Adding all that up, the total cost to North Carolinians so far from HB2 protests is slightly more than $395 million. That's more than the GDP of Micronesia.
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Good!

As we move forward they will have the opportunity to demonstrate to the world where their values really reside.  Is it with their principles or is it with their wallet?

MATT 6:24. No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.  (RSV2CE)

They could have built a lot of gender neutral bathrooms for $395M...


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Hmmm..  that's about $6500 per transgender person living in NC....if you believe the 0.6% estimate


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Quote from: Deborah on September 18, 2016, 06:41:11 AM
Guess How Much That Anti-LGBTQ Law Is Costing North Carolina

By Emma Grey Ellis

https://www.wired.com/2016/09/guess-much-anti-lgbtq-law-costing-north-carolina/

Adding all that up, the total cost to North Carolinians so far from HB2 protests is slightly more than $395 million. That's more than the GDP of Micronesia.
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Good!

As we move forward they will have the opportunity to demonstrate to the world where their values really reside.  Is it with their principles or is it with their wallet?

MATT 6:24. No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.  (RSV2CE)

The issue with that is HB2 overrode the people's will and their principles. Charlotte put protections in place, and State level government took the protections away. I don't think the people of the fine state of North Carolina want to be seen as bigots. Their Governor doesn't seem to care, though. If they lose their Federal funding over this, the school system statewide will suffer. I don't think anyone believes that would be a good thing.

Quote from: JessicaSondelli on September 18, 2016, 07:44:20 AM
Hmmm..  that's about $6500 per transgender person living in NC....if you believe the 0.6% estimate


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I don't. That number is gibberish, and only includes transsexuals. While they might be the major sector of our community who need medical services, the rest of us need housing, meals, representation,...and bathrooms. The transgender population runs closer to 5% of the total population.

Hugs, Devlyn

The people of North Carolina own this.    Elections have consequences.

I hope that everyone remembers that in November.

Quote from: Deborah on September 18, 2016, 07:52:08 AM
The people of North Carolina own this.    Elections have consequences.

I hope that everyone remembers that in November.

I don't agree with that. You don't own something because a senior politician goes rogue and overrides your common sense legislation. They should vote him out, but it doesn't make them responsible for his irresponsibility.

Hugs, Devlyn

It isn't a single rogue politician.   It was the overwhelming majority of the legislature that the people of North Carolina elected to represent their views.

QuoteThe state's Republican-led House of Representatives passed House Bill 2 by a vote of 83-24, according to the anti-LGBT North Carolina Family Policy Council, which supports the legislation.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/3/23/north-carolina-house-strikes-down-lgbt-protections-statewide

Yeah, in the House. In the Senate it was unanimous....because every single Democrat walked out in protest. Those protestors were duly elected to represent the views of some of the citizens, and they did so. I don't see why you're only telling half the story. 

Hugs, Devlyn

I think the story is that the law now exists, voted into existence by the will of the people. 

These same people are not open to arguments of reason so the only way to change their minds is through the application of pain.

If they were allowed to get away with this then states across the South would follow right in line with similar laws.

Voters in North Carolina will have a golden opportunity to get their state out of this jam in the coming elections.  It does appear that the various boycotts, job losses, legal actions, and event cancellations are helping NC voters focus on the issue, which otherwise might not be important to them personally.  And few of these actions have been taken without advance warnings and time to fix the problem if NC's government would choose to.  It has chosen not to.  The adverse actions seem to have been necessary, at least to me.  What else would work?

Judgment Day may soon be at hand for North Carolina Governor McCrory, who has doubled down repeatedly on his support for HB2:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/governor/nc/north_carolina_governor_mccrory_vs_cooper-4096.html

Real Clear Politics polling averages show Attorney General Roy Cooper leading McCrory by 4.7% for the November election.  As Attorney General, Cooper denounced HB2 as unconstitutional and declared that the resources of the AG's office would not be used to defend the law in litigation with the federal government over the issue.

With luck, that may take care of the mess at the Governor's mansion.  But North Carolina voters need to clean house in the State Legislature as well.  HB2 is only one of the many atrocities carried out by the NC Legislature.  Other examples: restrictions of voting rights (just overturned as racially discriminatory by the federal courts) and the gutting of North Carolina environmental protection laws.

North Carolina government has fallen into the hands of really bad, bad people.  They need to be GONE.

Quote from: itsApril on September 18, 2016, 02:26:43 PM
North Carolina government has fallen into the hands of really bad, bad people.  They need to be GONE.

When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle. - Edmund Burke

Hopefully the people of North Carolina will realize that EVERYONE got hosed with HB2, not just LGBT people.  The legislature had already planned the previous year to pass a bill removing the right to sue in state court for discrimination along with removing cities ability to set their own minimum wage laws (Parts 2 and 3 of HB2).  It was designed to remove power from the cities and consolidate it in the legislature.  When they got the opportunity to add the "bathroom bill" portion (Part 1) after Charlotte passed their anti-discrimination law, they jumped on it to distract from what they had already planned to do.  But the real kicker is Part 4 which is the Severability Clause.  If Part 1 is held unconstitutional as is always possible, it doesn't have any effect on the Parts 2 and 3.  Basically even if LGBT people win in court, the people of the state still lose.   

What's really scary is, despite the money lost in NC, Georgia's pet fool Senator McKoon from Columbus plans on introducing another religious freedom bill and a bathroom bill next legislative session.  Georgia stands to lose a lot more than NC with the movie and TV industry filming so much here.