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I don't want to be transgender

Started by confused21, September 11, 2011, 10:38:26 PM

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becky.rw

Quote from: Jasmine976 on September 14, 2016, 09:13:15 PM
Problem is. If I transition I'll have NO friends, family or job. I want to but I can't. I need to somehow sweep these feelings back under the rug somehow. I don't want to but I don't have any other option.

You could buy yourself some time with modest concessions to your true self.   My little combo right now is basically, HRT, a little counselling, and a purse.   Almost no one knows beans.     I'll add little things as I move forward, enough to buy a little time each step; enough to be progress on each step.   HRT can take a long time anyway...

Transition need not be some monumental giant step into the limelight.
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DawnOday

Quote from: Jasmine976 on September 14, 2016, 08:50:43 PM
All well and good to transition. But what if you already have a wife and kids and you know you'll get the ax at work for it if you do transition. How can I do it and keep a roof over my families head. I don't see it being practical. Then on top of that there's parents on both sides to deal with. I need to deal with it in a way that isn't going to completely mess things up. Otherwise I'd be happy to get the surgery tomorrow. I would love to make the change but it just isn't possible.




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I can only speak for myself but one way to protect yourself is get an education. It opens a lot of doors to companies that are accepting of transgendered/transsexual  people. Coming out to my wife was hard but I had already lost one wife because I was not up front. She knew early on in our relationship of 34 years that I was a crossdresser. But she did not know of the lifetime of prayers, pain, and longing to be someone I was predestined to be.  We have had a good long laugh about my Spiro induced "man boobs" i had developed about 15 or so years ago. It has been a source of family humor for some time. I finally told my wife that I had prayed for these boobs, not just that but I always have felt I was not very male. In the last 6 months I have gone from a questioning crossdresser to an estrogen taking transitioning female. The peace of mind, the calmness, the weight of keeping secrets no more is so liberating. The people I was really concerned about were my kids. They always considered me the best Dad ever. I should have know better because I raised them to be tolerant and logical. They were totally supportive. My son saying."You've got to be   yourself" "You're still the best Dad ever". My heart soared. I am now a month in and gaining a greater insight every day. Whether I go full time or not is still under consideration. Yes I am afraid of ignorance and stupidity. But I really feel that communication cures ignorance. Stupidity on the other hand is unmanageable. There are just enough stupid people out there to make one reconsider.
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~Carmen

Lol no one wants to be trans. Ya I feel you, I tried cross dressing a while back and looked horrendous, and went through a phase where I gave up everything and went full on male. That didn't work so I just transitioned anyway, but it's a process, and you can kinda only go up. Ive been transitioning since I was 16, and I can pass now. It does get better if you try
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Jasmine976

Just wanting to pick people's brains a bit. What is the appeal of being the opposite sex. For me personally I kinda enjoy acting all girly and I also kinda have the desire to have boobs and a vagina. I've never really felt any sentimental attachment to my penis like most males seem to. If anything it gets in the way and is a nuisance more than anything. Sometimes I'd like to chop it off. Lol. Also girls seem to have way more fun clothes to wear and try on. I'd love to spend a whole day just trying on nice dresses. Just wondering what interests people about transitioning.
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Devlyn

Quote from: ~Carmen on September 19, 2016, 01:02:25 PM
Lol no one wants to be trans. Ya I feel you, I tried cross dressing a while back and looked horrendous, and went through a phase where I gave up everything and went full on male. That didn't work so I just transitioned anyway, but it's a process, and you can kinda only go up. Ive been transitioning since I was 16, and I can pass now. It does get better if you try

Not true, I'm happy to report.  :) Transgender is the best thing that ever happened to me. Others here feel the same way I do. Every path is different.

Hugs, Devlyn
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becky.rw

Quote from: Jasmine976 on September 19, 2016, 07:54:24 PMJust wanting to pick people's brains a bit. What is the appeal of being the opposite sex

I think the question is kinda false in itself.   If I were just male, cis variety; my measly amount of T would never rake my mind across the coals; and try to drive it to truly silly levels of stupid.    If I were just male, bonding as a friend with other men would be at least possible.    But that's not the card I got.

The question really seems to me, at least, to be, what is the appeal of taking action to make the body fit more closely to the expectations of the mind.   For me, the dissonance between a brain keyed to experience arousal or anger at 50 ng/dL being immersed in a solution at 500 ng/dL has just become intolerable.   Likewise, when T went quiet, and the brain that was looking to be periodically exposed to 200 pg/ml of E was finally able to feel and think what it was supposed to feel and think; the entire world around me came alive, and I came alive.

The physically, if I touch my chest, I feel something different now; something that should have been there nearly 40 years ago; just the subtle change in weight distribution makes me move and feel the world in a different way, in a way that my mind has been looking for since my consciousness began.

otoh, I don't still much understand the dressing part; but at least now I think I know why; basically NONE of my female role models in my family are ever found in anything other than pants, shorts, and tshirts/polos. 
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Tristan

Quote from: confused21 on September 11, 2011, 10:38:26 PM
Hi I hope I don't offend anybody with this post. I just stumbled across this forum and I thought I would get some advice. I was born a male but for as long as I can remember I've felt like I should have been a girl. It is like a need. I have tried to just crossdressing on occasion or just being a feminine male among other things. None of that worked for me though. Nothing I've tried has satisfied that need I have. The only thing left that I know of is transitioning. However the thought of transitioning scares me. I just want to be a normal guy. I just want to like being the guy I was born as. I have tried for years doing different things to try and enjoy being male. Nothing so far has worked. I am at a breaking point in my life because of this. My academic career is in shambles and I can't seem to be able to keep motivated at jobs. This issue has caused me so much hurt and pain, but now it is actually stopping me from functioning in society. Meanwhile this need keeps growing and getting worse everyday. I feel shame and embarrassment for being transgender. Somedays I feel like my only option is to transition. This makes my shame and embarrassment unbearable. However I can't ever bring myself to do it. One reason is that I have been male my entire life and the thought of trying to unlearn all of that while learning this whole new set of rules makes my brain hurt. A different and probably bigger reason is the fact that I am my parents only son. I feel like if I came out to them about this it would kill them, especially my father. So please is there any way that I can make these feelings go away? Anyway to stop being transgender?

You can't stop yourself from being transgender you can look for a answer search for something to stop the pain
but the only true way of stopping that pain is confronting it and saying this is who i'm wanting to be! AND BE that person your heart is saying you are. Yes it is scary, and i understand how scary that road can become sometimes i try find ways for me to accept that i was born female the problem is i keep realizing i'm not a female i just have a body that is my brain is another story my brain is male. Don't be ashamed of being transgender don't be ashamed of being who you are. Sure you're different but who isn't different inside of this world? weather or not its something we see everyone has their own differences and yours happens to be that you're transgender. So start by embracing it :)
Do not be scared, this world is willing to learn and change along with us and this generation is improving as we speak
be proud to be who you are and use this as a light, use this as a way to lead your life and be happy and seceded in being yourself. Not everyone in this world lets themselves be happy and happiness is wonderful.
I was also scared to death of telling my parents because i was their daughter and they didn't want to let their daughter go away. But there daughter was never really there daughter it's just how they envisioned me. Then they noticed daughter never disappeared. My mother is starting to see that i'm right here and always will be. i'm still who she new.
With parents it'll take time for some and for others it'll take longer, parents if they really love you really care a parent isn't going to throw that love away there going to learn who you really are instead and love you even more for being yourself and living your own life, how you're wanting to live your own life. My family is religious they are also
very boys do this girls do this and it was complicated for them to understand but they took the time and eventually started to ask questions and come around sometimes i feel they don't but they did and are I don't know your family i can't say how "your" family will react or not.
However i can say parents love they don't hate. Please do not let fear take over your life and control you for me the best thing i ever did was accept myself it made my life interesting but more bright, more possible, it brought a smile to my face that hasn't been around lately.  And it sure as heck will be okay for you too! :)
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~Carmen

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 19, 2016, 08:09:33 PM
Not true, I'm happy to report.  :) Transgender is the best thing that ever happened to me. Others here feel the same way I do. Every path is different.

Hugs, Devlyn

Oh so you are happy you were born in the wrong body and had to/have to go through the hell of transitioning, and happy with all the hate towards you and/or others like us? Okaaaay got it
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Jacqueline

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 19, 2016, 08:09:33 PM
Not true, I'm happy to report.  :) Transgender is the best thing that ever happened to me. Others here feel the same way I do. Every path is different.

Hugs, Devlyn

I agree and disagree with both Carmen and Devlyn. Bear in mind it is different for each person.

I really did not want to find that I am transgender either. It adds so much complexity to  an already complex situation(married life with kids and both parents working). However,  in finally accepting and starting down a path (not sure how far I will need to go) I am happier, most of the time, than I have ever been before. So both points of view.


Quote from: Jasmine976 on September 19, 2016, 07:54:24 PM
Just wanting to pick people's brains a bit. What is the appeal of being the opposite sex. For me personally I kinda enjoy acting all girly and I also kinda have the desire to have boobs and a vagina. I've never really felt any sentimental attachment to my penis like most males seem to. If anything it gets in the way and is a nuisance more than anything. Sometimes I'd like to chop it off. Lol. Also girls seem to have way more fun clothes to wear and try on. I'd love to spend a whole day just trying on nice dresses. Just wondering what interests people about transitioning.

Jasmine, I could go on about what I like. However, I think it is less of an appeal and more of a need for me. Yes, much of what you mentioned above goes for me too(I think both my therapist and wife were surprised how little I would mind losing that appendage). It is about wanting to feel better and happy but it is also about the difference in what I have lived like and how that is different even with my early small steps.

Not sure if that answers but I am sure other members may answer differently. That's cool and part of what makes this such a great group of members.

With warmth,

Joanna
1st Therapy: February 2015
First Endo visit & HRT StartJanuary 29, 2016
Jacqueline from Joanna July 18, 2017
Full Time June 1, 2018





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Devlyn

Quote from: ~Carmen on September 20, 2016, 10:01:58 AM

Oh so you are happy you were born in the wrong body

I wasn't.

and had to/have to go through the hell of transitioning,

I didn't.

and happy with all the hate towards you and/or others like us?

I  don't receive hate.

Okaaaay got it

I don't think you do. You're assuming every transgender person is transitioning, has dysphoria, and has had a rough time with acceptance. Your experience is not everyone else's.

Hugs, Devlyn

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becky.rw

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 20, 2016, 11:10:15 AMYou're assuming every transgender person is transitioning, has dysphoria, and has had a rough time with acceptance. Your experience is not everyone else's.

This so much.  And its really kinda hard to get used to once you've made the step to seeing all these other trans-x folks.  I feel little distress over clothing, pronouns, or even names (people have called me random first names all my life, I barely notice); but intimacy, socialization, interaction, and anything remotely erotic are pure, brutal, anxiety city.  If I did a female RLE, little would visually change other than perhaps making an effort with my beard, and I'd probably buy a few more nice shirts; people would still get my name right sometimes, and wrong sometimes, sometimes call me "sir" and sometimes "ma'am"; and I'd just carry on.     But if I had to go on a date or to a party???  I'd need a team of shrinks (with cattle prods) to get me out the door.

Others are almost exactly opposite, joyful and practically reveling in the sensuality of it; but going into deep anxiety with the periodic misgendering or clothing/passing failures.

What we have in common, is a need to remedy a deep incongruity of sex, assignment, and gender in such a way that we can live comfortably to the end of our days.

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Black13

OP, I feel as though you have answered your own question.  If you're trans, you're trans; you can't change that aspect of you any more than you can change your genetics.  One day, they might make a pill that eliminates gender dysphoria completely, and sign me up if they do.  Till then, this is our lot.
It seems as though you've tried to bargain with yourself on this matter for a long time, tried to compromise it, but it hasn't worked.  In your mind, you seem pretty dead-set on transitioning.  I, too, was my parents' only son, and the prognosis of transition was frightening enough for me to try and kill the desire for about 20 years.  For 20 years, I proceeded to make terrible life decisions to try and convince everyone and myself that I was a man.  I came out the other end successful, but after the demands of the daily grind calmed down to the point where it wasn't enough to keep me occupied, I knew it meant nothing.
You could work yourself to death as a distraction, you could try and shout over the inner voice as it gets louder with time, but eventually you hit a breaking point.  Let it break.  This is your dream.  It's not necessarily a happy dream, most dreams get scary, but your conscience is pointing you down this path.  There will be loss, there will be alienation, there will be no guarantees of anything.  No one chooses to transition for the pension plan, but you can't live your entire life being guided by fear and guilt.
It's been an ugly, beautiful road so far.  My family pretty much unanimously turned their backs, my job doesn't know what to do with me (I don't know what to do with it, either), lost a well-established long-term relationship, but I have hope and the conviction that what I'm doing is right.  You're not just transitioning your gender expression, you're transitioning your entire life, taking the road less traveled.  You can be afraid, but don't let it paralyze you.
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~Carmen

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 20, 2016, 11:10:15 AM


Don't think you quite understood what I was talking about. But whatever carry on. This site has a habit of being all over the place and not being serious at times anyhow
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AMAB Born: March 1994
Gender became on radar: 2007
Admitted to self : 2010
Came out: May 12 2014
Estrogen: October 16 2015
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Michelle_P

I wouldn't mind being transgender at all if the cultural reaction to a trans person was "Oh.  How can we help each other?"  The current cultural reaction in much of the world is a little different from that.

It's the cultural reaction that makes us feel poorly about ourselves.  If we are raised to believe that certain things are evil, or wrong, or unacceptable, and yet find those very things within ourselves, a conflict arises.  This internal conflict, our internalized transphobia, and the external social conflicts, from cultural transphobia, are what make our lives so damn miserable. 
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Violets

Quote from: Michelle_P on September 21, 2016, 11:56:30 PM
It's the cultural reaction that makes us feel poorly about ourselves.  If we are raised to believe that certain things are evil, or wrong, or unacceptable, and yet find those very things within ourselves, a conflict arises.  This internal conflict, our internalized transphobia, and the external social conflicts, from cultural transphobia, are what make our lives so damn miserable.

This is very true, and it's a huge barrier that prevents many of us from fully transitioning, myself included. Even after years of therapy, I still feel ashamed and scared to fully present in public as my true self. I've come out to most of the important people in my life, but very few have seen me present as female.


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