i think it's normal to feel that way. i felt like i didn't have much progress on the looks department until about a year in. i felt like i had no significant changes, like my face stayed the same, etc. i just felt ugly. now over 2 years on T, i like how my face looks and that is also largely due to losing a lot of weight. my face thinning out because of the weight loss helped my confidence a lot because i no longer have chubby cheeks, etc. right now i have to shave every day for class so i hate how young i look with a baby face, i feel like i look less masculine (which makes me feel kinda ugly) but then again, every guy in my program needs to also shave and we all have young looking faces, even the guys who are my age. so either way, that feeling comes and goes.

Quote from: Jonathan L on October 01, 2016, 04:21:39 PM
Oh man, that is so comforting to hear. I keep seeing pics of trans guys who pass fairly early on and it makes me so jealous, haha. On the other hand, it does feel pretty validating to be so aware of how uncomfortable I am being seen as a butch woman. Definitely makes me feel I'm on the right track.

It is taking me so long to pass so we can take forever to change on T together. My T levels were pretty much nil before and I'm 36 so I figure I have a lot of estrogen influence to reverse.

Thank you Autumn for the advice

Quote from: invisiblemonsters on October 01, 2016, 04:36:48 PM
i think it's normal to feel that way. i felt like i didn't have much progress on the looks department until about a year in. i felt like i had no significant changes, like my face stayed the same, etc. i just felt ugly. now over 2 years on T, i like how my face looks and that is also largely due to losing a lot of weight. my face thinning out because of the weight loss helped my confidence a lot because i no longer have chubby cheeks, etc. right now i have to shave every day for class so i hate how young i look with a baby face, i feel like i look less masculine (which makes me feel kinda ugly) but then again, every guy in my program needs to also shave and we all have young looking faces, even the guys who are my age. so either way, that feeling comes and goes.

Yeah guess I'm in the awkward teenage faze . I'm looking forward to how I'll look a year on T even though there probably won't be much changes in just two months nd how I'll look January onwards.

It sucks that you have to shave for class but at least others look the same as you. I'm surprised by how many cis guys I see who are my height which makes me feel tons better about myself.

Quote from: Elis on October 02, 2016, 01:46:59 PM
Yeah guess I'm in the awkward teenage faze . I'm looking forward to how I'll look a year on T even though there probably won't be much changes in just two months nd how I'll look January onwards.

It sucks that you have to shave for class but at least others look the same as you. I'm surprised by how many cis guys I see who are my height which makes me feel tons better about myself.

it's alright, i'm 25 but i get aged at 21 - 22 which isn't too bad. once facial hair comes in, it will definitely shape your facial structure differently. that's why i like facial hair because it makes my facial structure look more masculine like squared off, and thinner.

a lot of guys in my program are 5'7" - 6'2" easily while i only stand at 5'2", which is the height most women are at in my program, and even then there is taller. but the height doesn't bug me, never has but i get why for some it might because they think women want these tall dudes but that isn't the case and as you get older too, you realize this. the more you also project those insecurities, the more women (or men) see it as a turn off.

i just feel as if the further you get in your transition, the less the stuff ends up mattering that you were SO concerned about in the beginning. you just end up looking around one day and realizing that a lot of cis guys look just like you. it's a huge weight off your chest to feel that way too.

Trust me I know exactly how you felt. My first year on T I felt like crap. I looked fat/chubby and my face was all puffy looking. I was so worried that I would never look like how all these other trans guys look because of being slightly older. Over two years now and most of the fat has redistributed and my face has slimmed down. I definitely feel more confident in my looks but still not confident enough in getting involved in a relationship. Give it time and you'll start feeling more confident.

PS-You're not ugly and you're going to be a good looking dude!

Quote from: AnxietyDisord3r on October 02, 2016, 08:53:19 AM
It is taking me so long to pass so we can take forever to change on T together. My T levels were pretty much nil before and I'm 36 so I figure I have a lot of estrogen influence to reverse.

I'm sorry you're in the same boat, but glad to not be the only one, lol. And I'm 31 so I've also been wondering how much having longer exposure to estrogen affects transition. So many of the trans guys on youtube (my main frame of reference) started T at a much younger age