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I have my FFS Surgery at PAI in two weeks: any tips girls?

Started by Rachel Richenda, November 15, 2016, 07:14:59 AM

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Debra

Quote from: EmilyMK03 on November 16, 2016, 12:18:56 AM
Do NOT take Arnica Montana unless you've tried it already and know that it works for you.  For some people, it acts as a poison and you'll experience severe stomach pain and skin rashes.  I took it after a laser skin resurfacing session because I was told that it would help reduce swelling and bruising.  It wasn't until after 2 days on it that I finally figured out that it was literally poisoning my body.  Try it out first if you want, while you're healthy.  Don't take it for the first time while you're recovering from surgery.


wow I'd never heard of that. I've had doctors and surgeons alike recommend it and had great results with both the gel and the oral/sublingual tablets. Good to know it's not for everyone.

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reborn

Hi sweetie,

I am sorry for my late reply, I just noticed this topic. First of all congratulations on your surgery date. I really hope it goes smooth and i wish you a very successful surgery. My thoughts and positive energy will be with you. I am very much looking forward to your experience and please keep us updated. I don't have any specific advice for what to bring, just remember to stock enough food to last you for the first few days in the hotel as you will no0t look human after the surgery. It takes time before you can get out of your hotel room.

xxxx
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R R H

That's so lovely of you reborn: thank you. The point about stocking up on food (and water) is vital. It was a mistake I made for my orchiectomy.

I'll keep you posted, promise :)
xxx
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R R H

Hi everyone,

I'm airside and about to board my flight for Bangkok. It's both exciting but also scary!

A close friend announced that she is coming out later in the week to be with me for some days, both through the op and after. So lovely :)

So it's all systems go!

xxx
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Debra

Quote from: Rachel Richenda on November 28, 2016, 07:57:48 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm airside and about to board my flight for Bangkok. It's both exciting but also scary!

A close friend announced that she is coming out later in the week to be with me for some days, both through the op and after. So lovely :)

So it's all systems go!

xxx

Yay good luck!!!

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R R H

Hi everyone,

All tests completed and I have the all-clear for Friday. I also had an excellent consultation with Dr Sutin but this leaves me with one, as yet undecided, choice. I'd love your help with this decision.

Here's what I am definitely having:

Hair advance
Brow lift
Tipplasty (pointing and upturn)
Alarplasty (nose width reduction)
Full face lift including neck liposuction and neck lift

6-7 hours of surgery

The one decision I'm not sure on is my orbital rims. Back in July Dr Sutin thought it was marginal as to whether it was necessary. This has since been confirmed by three other top world facial surgery centres. My forehead generally is flat. At today's consultation Dr Sutin said he thought that 'as a man' I have a very flat orbital brow rim. But that 'as a woman' I would have a 'slightly above average' one. And there's the dilemma. It's $2400 extra for the orbital rim shave and some extra recovery time etc. Is it necessary? Is it advisable? Should I do it? The decision cannot be made for financial reasons and I will never again have my face peeled back so it's now or never.

Argh tough decision! :)
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AnonyMs

I'd do the extra surgery as long as it didn't have any significant extra risk.

If you don't you'll always wonder if you should have. If you do and it makes no difference, well its only time and money, and pain.
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Sophia Sage

Do it.  With the scalp advancement and brow lift, the skin on your forehead will be pulled taut, making the underlying shape of your orbits that much more prominent.

Our eyes are so very important, and opening them up makes a world of difference. 

:)
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Debra

I agree. Do it. Youre forehead/skin/nose is already being worked on so you might as well do that while they're in there working anyway.

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2cherry

I would say: shave the orbital rims. My surgeon also said I would not "really" need it, but I am happy that I did. The flatter the better, as it opens up the eyes so much. And light then falls into your eyes from above, making them brighter. And brightness is feminine. (teeth show, cheeks, eyes)

Recovery is negligible, I don't feel anything from that procedure.

I wish you good luck sweetheart! can't wait to read your post-op story!  ;)


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2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

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Rhonda Lynn

Unless the money is really a big deal to you, I don't know why you would regret going ahead with shaving the orbital rims. I think it very likely that you be glad that you did. As others have said, if it were my decision, I would go for it.
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R R H

Thank you so much girls.

Decision made. $2400 paid an hour ago. Orbital rim shave is duly added to the surgery.

Thank you
;) 8)

xxx
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reborn

Hi honey,
I think that you made the right decision regarding the orbital rims shave. It will open your eyes making you more feminine. I wish you a very successful surgery. I will be following your progress. Good luck with the surgery again.

Hugs
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R R H

Awww thank you :) I'm heading to the hospital in an hour.

xx
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2cherry

Well, I hope it all went according to plan... my guess is that you're operated by now? I send you all my well wishing for a speedy recovery. I know it is hard to look at screens when you're just out, and the exhaustion of such surgery. But don't worry, take your time!

Welcome back, new Rachel!  :icon_flower: :icon_bunch: :icon_wave: :icon_walk: :icon_joy: :icon_boogy: :eusa_clap:


1977: Born.
2009: HRT
2012: RLE
2014: SRS
2016: FFS
2017: rejoicing

focus on the positive, focus on solutions.
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R R H

Hello everyone. Well I am back! 7 hours in theatre and I was pretty mangled afterwards. It was mainly sickness which lasted nearly 24 hours. Pain was ok-ish but it was more discomfort and particularly swelling. This is the first time I can see out of my eyes in any meaningful way.

Dr Sutin held a mirror up to me yesterday and the result is AMAZING. I am completely bowled over and had no idea it would be so dramatic.

Lots of pics to follow I promise but just wanted to tell you that I am okay :)

But, wow, FFS is serious surgery!!!!! I couldn't believe how wiped I would be by it. Felt pretty grotty for 36 hours. But I'm slowly picking up, and hour by hour people could see improvements.

much love to you all and thanks for such a sweet message 2Cherry.
xx
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Michelle_P

Hi, Rachel (Mk II)!  Its good to hear that you made it OK.  Thanks for the update.

I was just thinking, all the stuff involved in FFS, the impact on the facial bone structure, the incisions, tugging, suturing...  It's like a very structured form of being beaten severely, and our bodies react to the surgery the same way they'd react to any other violence to the face.  Ow!  No wonder almost everyone seems to feel wiped out by it.

Makes me nervous...  I know I'll need it, but am a long ways from scheduling it.
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reborn

Thank you for the update. I am sending you my positive thoughts and energy and I am wishing you a speedy recovery. With every day that passes you will be feeling better. The first few days are the worst. Keep us updated
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R R H

Thank you so much. Am still very weak. I had no idea it would wipe me this much but then I guess it's still less than 72 hours since I went into theatre.

Day 1 (Friday surgery began at 1pm)

The operation itself was that bizarre blur you get with General Anaesthetic. They say good night and the next thing you know they are trying to wake you up from mass grogginess. My op was just shy of 7 hours and I believe Dr Sutin performed them in this order:

Orbital rim shave
Hair advance / forehead reduction
Brow lift
               [c. 3.5 hours]
Neck liposuction
Neck lift
Full face lift
                [c. 2.5 hours]
Nose alarplasty
Nose tippplasty
                [c. 1 hour]

The first hours in recovery were pretty horrible. Piyavate hospital tried to prevent my partner who had flown from the UK from being with me on the critical care ward. They said it 'wasn't hospital policy' though from about 3 am this seemed to be more so that the nurses could go to sleep. I kept asking them to phone my friend to come down and she had begged them to let her stay. I'm not impressed by Piyavate CCU on that. I was very sick so it was a grim, grim, experience. I threw up loads for the first 18 hours out of theatre.

Day 2 (Saturday)

Felt pretty grim for much of the time. It's more discomfort than actual pain as such but it did feel like I've been beaten and battered. Face was extremely swollen, especially around the eyes. No appetite so it was a case of forcing myself to eat for energy. In the end I asked to come off the morphine and my vomiting stopped at 2 pm. We had an extra night in hospital.

Day 3 (Sunday)
Gradual energy return. Eyes still very swollen. That evening we came back to the hotel. I used ice packs a lot and this did help reduce swelling. Peppermint tea was fabulous and Bune from PAI had given me some birds nest soup which was delicious and a well known Chinese healing custom.

Day 4 (Monday - today)
Felt like sh t this morning to be honest but loads of sleep and I now feel a lot better. This is the first time I've put on my glasses or felt like writing this up.

So ...

I've been riven with doubts for 3 days wondering if I did the right thing. I know that's only because it has been so bloody tough. And I will love it when I'm through this grim phase. I know Dr Sutin has done a stunning job, truly, it's just that at first when you look in the mirror be prepared for the halloween pumpkin that stares back at you :D You really do see a different person staring out the glass. When you're physically battered that's another level to contend with. But he really has done a superb job: my forehead looks flat and smooth and he achieved virtually 2cms of hair advance which was one of the most important factors in terms of my face shape. My nose is still wrapped up so I'm looking forward to seeing it. The neck and full face lift look incredible. I'd totally forgotten that a side-effect of FFS is that it can make you look younger.


When I'm feeling strong again and the swelling subsides there will doubtless be positive posts. And I've got loads of pics, including before and after. But, make no mistake, FFS is bloody huge surgery on many levels, not just the physical mauling. If you can, make sure you have someone with you. I have found this very tough going.

Love to all
xx
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AnonyMs

Do you get the option of not looking in a mirror for a few days? I'm not sure how well I'd handle that.
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