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Started by LizK, January 30, 2017, 04:37:42 PM

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LizK

I get that people become unwell overnight and don't blame my Technician for getting sick but I have spent the last 4 days letting what's left of my beard grow out so she can spend an hour today after I have had lidocaine injections to work on me.

It took ages to set up all the appointments and co-ordinate the times...My Dr was brilliant about this and so far out of the 10 booked my Dr has cancelled one and The Electrologist has been sick for two of them... I suspect that after the 7 that are left are complete booking more with injections won't be much of a problem

What annoys me the most is I went out yesterday and had to present myself differently because I had 3 days of growth all over my face, not that the person I met cared...I cared though. It makes me Dysphoric enough to have this crap all over my face with out doing it pointlessly...no ones fault...just life... but doesn't make it any less frustrating...

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH

Liz 
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Brooke

Yeah. I've had stuff like that happen. Sometimes it feels like I spend more time and energy planning my life as to make sure the stubble is seen by as few people as possible- then actually focusing on areas I need to work on.

Much more difficult when you want to be living full time, or as close to it as possible and people just seem oblivious of how much care and planning it takes to live a life when you are constantly needing to grow out stubble, and needing to live in the correct gender role.

I remember this being an absolute nightmare for the first six months. And then a new nightmare came as the hairs started coming in more slowly requiring even more stubble days, with the small percentage (and all too visible) dark hairs in random areas.

Arrrrrrrrrghhhhhhh!


Hugs,
~Brooke~
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MissGendered

Five years after starting HRT, and I still have to deal with this, too, so I get it, aarghh!

I have had over 100 hours of electro, but I haven't been able to afford it much in the last year, I only had 4 hours in the last 6 months.

I probably have at least another 30-40 hours left, but the worst part is that most of the remaining hairs grow super slowly, but about 10%, the darkest ones, grow as fast as they did pre-hrt. If I shave every day, the slow growers get ingrown or irritated and then I need to wear heavier foundation. At the beginning it was easier to manage the hair, now it is very complicated, and every day I am still having to decide how to cope with whatever hair is visible...

Hardest part of all is when I have a boyfriend, and of course, there isn't a man on the planet that wants to feel stubble or see hair on a woman's face or neck, so, yeah, what a stresssssful thing that is...

So, yeah, arrrrghhh....

:-(
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Cindy

Well, well, well!

It was me that Liz caught up with and we had a lovely talk in a very nice coffee shop.

Honey you looked fine and I didn't notice any facial hair growth at all.

Cindy


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LizK

Quote from: Cindy on January 31, 2017, 01:15:21 AM
Well, well, well!

It was me that Liz caught up with and we had a lovely talk in a very nice coffee shop.

Honey you looked fine and I didn't notice any facial hair growth at all.

Cindy

Hey Cindy

You really are lovely aren't you...It was great and I had a great time...nothing like some relaxed chatting to cure what ails you. You know what I mean, part of it was I was going out and wanted to look and feel nice. I knew you would not even notice nor care if you did. It was the 4 day lead in time it took to get enough grown for the electrolysis that was more frustrating...

Hugs
Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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LizK

Quote from: MissGendered on January 31, 2017, 12:23:07 AM
Five years after starting HRT, and I still have to deal with this, too, so I get it, aarghh!

I have had over 100 hours of electro, but I haven't been able to afford it much in the last year, I only had 4 hours in the last 6 months.

I probably have at least another 30-40 hours left, but the worst part is that most of the remaining hairs grow super slowly, but about 10%, the darkest ones, grow as fast as they did pre-hrt. If I shave every day, the slow growers get ingrown or irritated and then I need to wear heavier foundation. At the beginning it was easier to manage the hair, now it is very complicated, and every day I am still having to decide how to cope with whatever hair is visible...

Hardest part of all is when I have a boyfriend, and of course, there isn't a man on the planet that wants to feel stubble or see hair on a woman's face or neck, so, yeah, what a stresssssful thing that is...

So, yeah, arrrrghhh....

:-(

I hear what you are saying. At the very start of my Transition I think it was Dena who said to me in a thread about getting on to Electrolysis asap because trying to manage it full time is a nightmare. I am not officially full time but what I wore out to see Cindy is probably dressed down to when I can use a bit of makeup. I hate the look of foundation when the facial hair has any length in it...so I just don't wear it.

Sounds really annoying to be nearly done with it but not quite and struggling to pay for.

Unfortunately life spins stuff at us we have no control over...and this is one of them.

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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LizK

Quote from: Brooke on January 31, 2017, 12:08:30 AM
Yeah. I've had stuff like that happen. Sometimes it feels like I spend more time and energy planning my life as to make sure the stubble is seen by as few people as possible- then actually focusing on areas I need to work on.

Much more difficult when you want to be living full time, or as close to it as possible and people just seem oblivious of how much care and planning it takes to live a life when you are constantly needing to grow out stubble, and needing to live in the correct gender role.

I remember this being an absolute nightmare for the first six months. And then a new nightmare came as the hairs started coming in more slowly requiring even more stubble days, with the small percentage (and all too visible) dark hairs in random areas.

Arrrrrrrrrghhhhhhh!


Hugs,
~Brooke~

I got to the point last year when I just got fed up with one session after another, not all Electrolysis but constantly prepping, and juggling appointments changing things around, that I took a couple of weeks off. Wore some nice clothes did my makeup every day for a week or two in some form or another and booked no procedures not worried about any of it. Had myself a little "Transition Vacation". Kinda  felt like I was living an almost normal life..(chuckle)

Delusional maybe but did my soul a world of good.  ;)

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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MissGendered

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Quote from: ElizabethK on January 31, 2017, 02:27:36 AM
I hear what you are saying. At the very start of my Transition I think it was Dena who said to me in a thread about getting on to Electrolysis asap because trying to manage it full time is a nightmare. I am not officially full time but what I wore out to see Cindy is probably dressed down to when I can use a bit of makeup. I hate the look of foundation when the facial hair has any length in it...so I just don't wear it.

Sounds really annoying to be nearly done with it but not quite and struggling to pay for.

Unfortunately life spins stuff at us we have no control over...and this is one of them.

Liz

Liz,

Life is complicated enough without trying to manage a complete gender switch midstream, lol. I try to remember that all those laser places and electrolysis shops are there for cis women primarily, and frame my issue with hair mentally as just another thing a normal woman contends with, buuut, yeah, I know my history, so it is scary and triggering. One of my best cis friends has almost as much growth as I do, but all her hair is white. If I weren't wanting to hide a history, and fearing the consequences of being 'found out', I could probably just take it in stride. But I can't afford to let my guard down. Lately I have taken a break from dating, so there has been some relief of that anxiety, but I still feel awful feeling it and seeing it and dealing with it before I make my plans for the day. It is too easy to self-isolate when transitioning already, and this added worry is very much a nuisance!

But, someday, this too shall pass...

Until then..

Arrrghh!!
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Michelle_P

I really need to take a vacation in Oz and meet all these wonderful folks!

Liz, I've taken a few 'vacations', when my electrologist takes hers. :). No, we don't go off together (although that would be fun).  I just get to take a break from the old grow-it-out Fuzzy Weekends.  It's nice.

Now, the neat thing that has just happened with the last appointment is that I've got the upper lip, lower lip, chin, and part of each cheek cleared, after 60 hours.  [emoji322] My usual hairstyle hides the face a few inches in front of each ear down to the jawline, and between the turtlenecks and makeup, the fuzz below the jawline isn't visible, so I am now fairly confident going out and about on the day before my zap-a-thon. 

You've got to be getting close to this point by now.  Your tablemate didn't notice, after all!


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Angela Drakken

Could be worse, this week I traded ghastly facial hairs, for even worse red spots all over my face..!
I look like I have an STD. >.< (They're not showing any sign of clearing up either, it's been nearly a week.)

I definitely feel for you though, I broke down crying when the laser machine broke on my second last laser session. Y.Y (Thank God for goggles.. No one noticed.)
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LizK

Quote from: Michelle_P on January 31, 2017, 01:55:27 PM

You've got to be getting close to this point by now.  Your tablemate didn't notice, after all!

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Thanks Michelle

My Electrologist is really nice and does a really great job. She is fast when I am not leaping all over the table...I have this weird combination of hypersensitivity and sparse tough hairs, very little black hair due to 15 Laser sessions  and  Next laser I should see a complete clearance of the black. I haven't really kept track of how many Electrolysis hours because the work rate in each varied depending on how well I did. Having the injections and lying perfectly still means she can work rapidly....but from what I can see its going to take about 5 hrs to finish that first clearance. My top lip is nearly finished maybe another 1/2 hr...for me, it is more about how it makes me feel.

It helps when your table mate is a really lovely person.

Thanks

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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LizK

Quote from: Angela Drakken on January 31, 2017, 04:26:09 PM
Could be worse, this week I traded ghastly facial hairs, for even worse red spots all over my face..!
I look like I have an STD. >.< (They're not showing any sign of clearing up either, it's been nearly a week.)

I definitely feel for you though, I broke down crying when the laser machine broke on my second last laser session. Y.Y (Thank God for goggles.. No one noticed.)

Angela that sounds positively awful...do you know what has caused the spots? if that is what they are...I think the lady doing the laser is not great with laser and uses the "in motion technique" which while effective as she has it turned way up, has a tendency to appear patchy. After the next laser Session my Electrologist will have free reign to take any stragglers that are left. I have 6 black hairs that I can see on my top lip and a few in the middle of my bottom lip. These should in theory be gone with he last laser treatment next month...we will see, if there are not many I may be able to let her loose regardless of the laser...I won't be having much of that many more.

Liz
Transition Begun 25 September 2015
HRT since 17 May 2016,
Fulltime from 8 March 2017,
GCS 4 December 2018
Voice Surgery 01 February 2019
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Angela Drakken

Yeah.. She made a good mess of me. Ive mad an appointment with another technican at another salon. I almost feel the current one was 'testing my limits' on purpose because I have a very high threshold for pain. (However this doesnt mean my skin isnt incredibly sensitive..) Shed literally sit and poke one small area until itd be so swollen she COULDNT work there anymore and then move on to the next..
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KathyLauren

Quote from: Angela Drakken on February 01, 2017, 04:54:59 AMI almost feel the current one was 'testing my limits' on purpose because I have a very high threshold for pain.
I am sure my laser tech is the Marquise de Sade.  She cranks the laser up a bit each session, but I think she might have had it on max the last time.  At least, I'm hoping it can't go any higher.  Damn, that hurt!  I might just tell her not to turn it up any higher than that.  She told me after the session that I "handled it well", by which she presumably meant that I didn't scream loudly enough to frighten the other clients in the waiting room.   :o
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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Nina_Ottawa

I consider myself lucky, I "only" needed 80 hours of electrolysis...had only four or five hairs on my cheeks...mostly just lip and chin.
Never used lidocaine injections, but did use EMLA cream for the area just under the nose which was the most sensitive.
I had a great electrologist....lol, I'll never forget the time I booked a two hour appointment. Let's just say you don't make that mistake twice. My face felt like a pin cushion.
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MissGendered

Quote from: Nina_Ottawa on February 03, 2017, 07:27:12 AM
I consider myself lucky, I "only" needed 80 hours of electrolysis...had only four or five hairs on my cheeks...mostly just lip and chin.
Never used lidocaine injections, but did use EMLA cream for the area just under the nose which was the most sensitive.
I had a great electrologist....lol, I'll never forget the time I booked a two hour appointment. Let's just say you don't make that mistake twice. My face felt like a pin cushion.

Lol, I always did at least 2 hours, and have done a few 4 hour sessions, as well. But I used to be highly dissociative, and I have alters that are younger males or too young to have facial hair, and they could handle it like it wasn't actually happening. Other alters found it excruciating. Now that I am 'whole', two hours is the absolute limit of my endurance, lol. Funny how a human mind can perceive such things in such vastly different ways.

There are times I miss being in pieces, lol...

Missy
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