I ordered the classic packer just a few days ago and was amazed when it arrived as quickly as it di. The detail is fantastic and it passes the grab test pretty well, though a hair firm. I also got the rodeo packing boxers, with the deep pouch. My only question is how to get a natural looking bulge. With the pouch front on the boxers it all just kinda all sits dead center, though the position seems right in terms of my anatomy.