Quote from: JeanetteLW on February 02, 2017, 09:54:22 PM
   I have tried both pills and patches. I was using the 7 day patches and made sure to clean the nea skin area with alcohol before applying one. Despite this they always loosen some in the shower. They did not come all the way off but that is a possibility. Once the skin dried under the patch it reahered w/o problem.
   My VA doctor order pills after I told him I feel I am transgendered as that is what the VA supplies. I take them sublingually with no problems. I feel they are more convenient than patches and dosage is easier to adjust when necessary.
   Injection was not an option given but not that I have gotten used to giving myself insulin shots twice a day I don't see it as a problem. There was a time I swore I could never become a drug addict because I could never give myself a shot. I guess I could now, fortunately recreational drugs are no longer part of my story. I gave them up many years ago along with smoking and alcohol. In fact today marks 18 years since alcohol has passed my lips.

   So for ease of administration I vote for pills.

  Jeanette

Happy Anniversary! I too have been mostly alcohol free for 15 years. By that I mean I used to drink a lot socially but now its usually a sip or two of something new that comes out but never more than that.
I was given a beer at the Home Show in Louisville Kentucky a few weeks back took one sip and trashed it!


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Michelle, Kathy & Nina Thank you for sharing your experiences with me and others who may read them. All you girls are helping me more than you know!
Gratefully- Jaime

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Well, since it came up, I haven't had a drink since 1986. 

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 03, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
Well, since it came up, I haven't had a drink since 1986. 

Hugs, Devlyn

Yaaayyyy!!

No wonder you look so young and fresh, very nice!!!

Missy

Quote from: MissGendered on February 03, 2017, 09:10:05 AM

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 03, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
Well, since it came up, I haven't had a drink since 1986. 

Hugs, Devlyn

Yaaayyyy!!

No wonder you look so young and fresh, very nice!!!

Missy

Can we get this girl a raise?    Thanks, hon, you just made my day!

Hugs, Devlyn

Patches are proven to be safer. My private doctor in London presented me with the science to back this regarding liver damage pills will cause over 20+ years of taking them.

There is a myth that injections give better physical results though.

I'm happy on Estradot patches.

Quote from: Squirebuffy1990 on February 03, 2017, 09:57:44 AM
Patches are proven to be safer. My private doctor in London presented me with the science to back this regarding liver damage pills will cause over 20+ years of taking them.

There is a myth that injections give better physical results though.

I'm happy on Estradot patches.

So you've basically said that pills and injections are not good, and only patches.

I disagree. My endocrinologist of near 30 years, who has worked with transgender folks for 25 years would say each has its merits.
I've been on Estrace 8.5 years, also had 6 months on injections...u get my blood tested 4x a year by both my endo and family doctor.
Science proves one thing: it'll always be open to debate and scrutiny. In other words, there is no one right answer.

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Can we get this girl a raise?    Thanks, hon, you just made my day!

Hugs, Devlyn

Awww, I jus' call 'em as I see 'em, sweetcheeks! :-)

Quote from: Squirebuffy1990 on February 03, 2017, 09:57:44 AM

There is a myth that injections give better physical results though.

It is a wonderful thing to be happy, and I am glad you are happy with your course of treatment...

But, for one to claim something is an actual myth, one is required to show proof that disproves the belief.

While I cannot demonstrate data that supports my personal observation that injecting gave me better results, both physical and mental, I can say that there is demonstrable evidence that injections also spare one of the liver damage associated with long-term oral administrations. That is actually going to be the crux of my case to get an insurance override so I can resume injectables, since liver failure is common in my older relatives.

Missy

Quote from: MissGendered on February 03, 2017, 10:34:21 AM
It is a wonderful thing to be happy, and I am glad you are happy with your course of treatment...

But, for one to claim something is an actual myth, one is required to show proof that disproves the belief.

While I cannot demonstrate data that supports my personal observation that injecting gave me better results, both physical and mental, I can say that there is demonstrable evidence that injections also spare one of the liver damage associated with long-term oral administrations. That is actually going to be the crux of my case to get an insurance override so I can resume injectables, since liver failure is common in my older relatives.

Missy

Amen sista!! ^^^^^^^^^

At this point, I'll take whatever works. 


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Well I can eliminate pills from my choices but depending on how often I have to inject versus every 3.5 days for the patch will ultimately be the tipping point.

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Quote from: jgravitt01 on February 03, 2017, 09:35:39 PM
Well I can eliminate pills from my choices but depending on how often I have to inject versus every 3.5 days for the patch will ultimately be the tipping point.

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Usually every 10-14 days, hun, to start. I am the only person I know that ever did injections less than a week apart, but I was working out the levels for my cycle. There were months when I was doing 7-10 mini-shots, lol, only because I was born female, xx intersex, but, MTFs seem to get prescribed 2-3 shots a month, instead..

It is easy peasy, babycakes!

Missy

each method has their own pros and cons, and your mileage may vary. However, (generally) less estradiol is absorbed via the pill method, patches can leave residue, and according to some not remain attached well, and can be a little pricey. Injections can be expensive in some places, but they work over a longer period than patches or pills.
Go with your heart.  :3

Quote from: AnwenEira on February 05, 2017, 06:31:15 AM
each method has their own pros and cons, and your mileage may vary. However, (generally) less estradiol is absorbed via the pill method, patches can leave residue, and according to some not remain attached well, and can be a little pricey. Injections can be expensive in some places, but they work over a longer period than patches or pills.
Go with your heart.  :3

Thank you AnwenEira for your help.
-Jaime

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Quote from: jgravitt01 on February 02, 2017, 08:31:29 PM
Dena, Missy & Devlyn My doctor stated that I would be starting on both Estrogen & Spironolactone at the same time so I assume that's normal. Dont mind injections since I do that for occasional migraines anyway. I initially chose the patch but im second guessing it for shower/bath purposes and I have to wear it for 3 1/2 days.

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I know you're on the injectables, but I want to  update my experience with the patches. They are on for 3 1/2 days each. I've had no issues with showering, and  I also went out and got all sweated up shoveling snow several times and haven't lost a patch. They pick up a lint ring around the edge after a couple days. A little of the glue/lint stays on me when I remove the patch, but it comes off with rubbing alcohol. There is a tiny bit of redness where each patch was on me. It's faint, I  can  see it because I know where the patches were, someone else might not notice. It helps me find fresh spots. I tried putting one on my butt instead of belly, can't see what I'm doing back there, so I'm sticking to the abdomen.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 15, 2017, 06:21:12 PM
I know you're on the injectables, but I want to  update my experience with the patches. They are on for 3 1/2 days each. I've had no issues with showering, and  I also went out and got all sweated up shoveling snow several times and haven't lost a patch. They pick up a lint ring around the edge after a couple days. A little of the glue/lint stays on me when I remove the patch, but it comes off with rubbing alcohol. There is a tiny bit of redness where each patch was on me. It's faint, I  can  see it because I know where the patches were, someone else might not notice. It helps me find fresh spots. I tried putting one on my butt instead of belly, can't see what I'm doing back there, so I'm sticking to the abdomen.

Hugs, Devlyn

Honestly it's probably all on the eyes of the beholder so to speak. Whatever each one chooses is best for them.
I decided on the injections and there was literally nothing to it. Never felt the injection and I do it once a week. Im at .5   for the time being.
Thanks again to everyone for their input on this subject I was undecided right up to my 2nd doctor visit.

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