I'm quoting Robbie Williams here,
   
  "All we've ever wanted
Is to look good naked
Hope that someone can take it
God save me rejection
From my reflection,
I want perfection"
        :-)

Hi Sadie Blake

The link I am posting goes to this post by Mariah.

Quote from: Mariah on March 06, 2016, 09:55:16 AM
This is one thing that I know that when I came on to the site that I didn't know. It's a long standing policy that pre dates my time on the forums too. I never knew what it was either though. To aid future moderators the policy is being posted here.

->-bleeped-<- aka  ->-bleeped-<- is strictly forbidden on site. There is however a wiki article on the subject on the site. It's located in the following location.

https://www.susans.org/wiki/ ->-bleeped-<-

Generic definition from the article I'm posting here so you know what it is in case you see it in the forums.

Liz

I think everyone woman wants to be pretty regardless of being trans or not, but all that matters to me is that I'm pretty to my fiancé whose opinion is the only one that matters to me. Hugs
Mariah

I want to look like a prettyful young princes.
~dances zhe ballet~

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Quote from: sarah1972 on November 19, 2016, 08:30:24 AM
Yes, I want to be pretty, feel pretty and wear pretty clothes. Maybe a big part is trying to catch up on missing out for 44 years...

How far would I go for it? Not sure. So far any "cosmetic" surgery has not been in the plans - but who knows.

I'm with you Sarah 

No. I don't want to be pretty. Pretty sounds like cute, tiny. Child like. I don't like that. I like to be a strong woman, not a girl with a child body. I also don't want to be hot. Sleazy greasy, no thank you.

I want to be beautiful 

...and being beautiful for me, is being myself. Unique. The woman I should have been when I was born with the female genetics.

I have done FFS, but it doesn't make me pretty. It makes me who I am, myself. Beautiful.

I do. As a guy I really couldn't care less about my appearance but when I'm feeling girly and dress the part I buy name brand clothes and make sure my hair and face are presentable, for what it's worth. I honestly think that if I can't become a beautiful woman then I shouldn't bother with transitioning. That said, I think I'd be an OK looking chick lol

I just want to be passable not pretty, as an older woman I hope I have a chance if the HRT works

Having an instinct to be pretty when you're socially considered male is a bitch. Is it about being pretty, wearing dresses, I'd say no, there's more to it, but it wouldn't be the same without that either.
Why do I feel so comfortable with my breasts (fatty gynecomastia), I'd be devastated to lose them, which makes no sense from a standpoint of being pretty, you don't need that to be pretty, is it about clothes? No, I'd be very happy to have men's clothes hang off those same breasts and drape over my waist as well, think of all the ways you can wear men's clothes that a man can't. Is it about sex with men? Well, men do that all the time, you don't have to be female to do that.

In one sense it's about getting your body to match your brain, but in another sense it's about getting society's expectations of you to match up with your inner self as well, the need to transition would exist even if it was entirely acceptable for men to be feminine, but it would probably be half as strong, or less.

Quote from: redhot1 on November 17, 2016, 10:12:21 PM
Would some trans-women who want to transition or take hormones admit that it's not as much about personality (even though that may still play a part in it) as about being looked at as pretty or feminine?

I can't see myself actually seeing a gender specialist or taking hormones in the nearer future, because I want to focus on other things right now, and find other little ways I can be pretty or more feminine. And if I do happen to decide I want hormones one day, in that case I wish I didn't leave such a big social media or internet footprint. If that is me, then I wish I could've had an idea like that since I was very little.

Anyway, I first got the idea that I wanted to be more physically feminine and pretty, but later on, personality became a secondary consideration as well. I might be androgynous, leaning towards female.

I just want somebody I can more relate to.

I can kind of relate with some of this. I'm still unsure about a desire to transition completely to female, but I am willing to see a therapist about my issues. However, it is also the desire to be more feminine than masculine. My personality has already been identified as 'weird' (not male) by the people I'm around and even my mannerisms are strange for a male. I already 'feel' I'm more androgynous than purely male or female. I'd like my appearance to reflect that more and I'm not at all opposed to taking hormones. I think the main thing holding me back is my work environment and the place where I live because of this I wish I have decided to do something about it sooner.

There's nothing wrong with wanted to feel pretty but don't forget it's bout you and, I hope when I go through mine I can pass