Be honest

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Hugs, Devlyn

Try that link.

Sounds good.  If I didn't know you were trans, I wouldn't suspect it.

That works. You sound great, very feminine. I was expecting a huge drawl from you, Southern Belle style! 

Hugs, Devlyn

You sound female to me. I don't think there's anything about your voice there that would suggest otherwise to anyone listening.

sounds good

You sound totally female, cute southern female to me anyway.

Sounds great and feminine

From a lot of the stuff you have been posting it it seems to me you lack self confidence...

I don't know if the feedback you get here can really penetrate that self doubt...

But  from your pics and that voice clip you look and sound better that almost all of TSes I have met (and in my early years post transition I met somewhere between 100-200).

I know in a place like this sometime people give undeservedly positive feedback. I can assure you I am NOT such a person. I learned a long time ago that realistic negative feedback is usually not taken in the spirit intended... so I those cases I simply don't say anything

IMO I think what will work best is if you learned to stop worrying about it and just go out and live life in the real world...

THAT feedback (the ways people who don't "know" interact with you) will do more to help your self confidence than anything anyone can say here... and if you do have some rough edges that can't be easily seen on-line, that will help smooth them out more than anything else.

From what I see here, it looks to me that you are one of the lucky ones who is really only held back by how you see yourself... and you CAN change that... but as I said going out and doing a lot of living/interacting/socializing outside the community with people who don't know, is really best way to get there in IMO.

- Karen

It sounds pretty good and I don't think it's readable. There is one improvement you should think about that would make it even better. Twice in the sample you had vocal fry. This is when you allow your vocal cords relax so much that you get a buzz in the voice. Girls tend to do that lately and I see it kind of like the valley girl accent many once used. If you move into a more professional environment in the future vocal fry could be somewhat of a disadvantage. Better to deal with it now than latter.

Quote from: Dena on April 19, 2017, 08:41:15 PM
There is one improvement you should think about that would make it even better. Twice in the sample you had vocal fry. This is when you allow your vocal cords relax so much that you get a buzz in the voice. Girls tend to do that lately and I see it kind of like the valley girl accent many once used. If you move into a more professional environment in the future vocal fry could be somewhat of a disadvantage. Better to deal with it now than latter.

You put your finger on something I did not know how to put into words!!

Never heard the term "vocal  fry" before.

I did not know why, but while her voice was not readable as TS it sounded "blonde" (first word that popped into my head)  and/or too young to me...

I thought she would have a hard time being taken seriously sounding like that, but I did not think it would get her read .

- karen

You sound completely female and Paris Hilton too.  (no I love her, so this isn't an insult, Paris gets a lot of bad publicity)

I am not into youtube but some of the members put videos up about vocal fry. You should be able to find some pretty good examples of it with a little searching. There is  also a wikipedia entry on it. I found it will I was trying to remember the other name - glottal fry.

I'm not forcing it, it feels natural like I don't even have to try when I'm sounding like that. Is it possible to have a natural vocal fry?

It's not really natural. You are allowing your voice to relax a bit to much and as the result you are dropping to low. Try and experiment where you  start out with a mid range pitch and say  Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Allow your pitch to drop and you  will soon find yourself in a vocal fry.

As I said, it doesn't affect you passibility but it could affect how others view you. If you listen to women announcers, you shouldn't hear them fall into a vocal fry as it's not a professional speech pattern. An announcer needs a "perfect" voice and they may need to work hard to remove any imperfections. If you are working on a new voice, why not go for the best?

I am a novice to this voice stuff but I do hear what they are saying. My voice has a tendency to do the same..my therapist told me I get ragged and lose the smoothness and this is what makes my pitch drop. When I use something like Magic Stave to check my pitch I can be around 180 and when my voice gets ragged it drops back down to 90-100. When it was smooth your voice sounded great but as I said I am knew to this.

Liz

Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 19, 2017, 06:27:30 PM
Be honest

http://chirb.it/K127Jb

It's pretty darn good. Your having a lot more success than I am. I can't seem to get anywhere close to a female sounding voice it's driving me bonkers.


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It sounds feminine but a little "fake". You are lucky to have such high pitch

Spectogram shows your pitch as high as 364hz and never dropping below 200hz. This is excellent.

Resonance seems pretty good; there's nothing chesty going on.  As Dena said, you fry your voice, but even when you do your pitch is still fine.  You sound a bit nasal to me, but that just might just be my Yankee aesthetics. 

Musicality is also good -- you hit several different pitches throughout that sample, and never come across as monotone. I was a little surprised that "please give me your honest opinion" was expressed as a statement (with the pitch descending at the end, it's almost in the imperative) instead of as a request (with the pitch rising like a question at the end).