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Started by Kimberly Kilpatrick, February 09, 2008, 10:53:59 PM

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Kimberly Kilpatrick

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tekla

No problem, we seem to work overtime to keep the people happily ignorant about our government, otherwise in re Bush v. Gore would have set off riots.  Which it should have.

Hill has to (HAS TO) win Virginia this week, or she is toast.  And I do not think she will.  Her staff is in total confusion, money is hard to come by, and Virginia has lots of African-Americans who are about to make the Old South remember why they had Jim Crow laws in the first place.

She will not (NO NO NEVER NEVER) take the Veep slot.

So, Obama should put together the team right away, and run as a team.  I don't think he needs a Southerner - the AA vote will carry the Solid South.  He needs someone who has foreign policy/military experience, and that should be General Westley Clark.  That would be a hard ticket to beat.  It might be possible to convince Hill to be Sec of State (the most powerful job in the government these days - and one with real power) but I doubt it.  I would be nice however, but if that is not possible, so (I know your going to think I'm smoking that ganga but I'm not) I would try to get Arnold for the job.  He has proven himself a capable administrator and negotioter (which no one thought he would be)  Besides other world leaders would look puny next to him in the photos, and that's great PR.  And, as a self-made millionare and an immigrent, he is great PR for the best of what America is.  And his close ties with the Kennedy family would not hurt.  Besides he does speak a foreign language, and that might be nice for a change in a Sec of State.  James Webb as Sec of Defense.  A decorated war hero, member of the Senate, and one of the few people who actually had a son serve in country.  Put Dennis K in charge of the Health Care reform, give Bill Richardson the job of Homeland Security, which is INS, might be nice to have someone who speaks Spanish work on that problem.

The two most important jobs after State and Defense are Attoney General and EPA, because these people need to be brought to justice, both domestically and internationaly, if we are to regain our credibility in the world, John Edwards, or Jerry Brown.  Edwards would be best, Brown could head up the Labor Department in that case, a win-win for all of us. 

And, give Al Gore the EPA, and let him loose.  He would do it.  He could repair the damage that Bush has done.  And all of our lives, and the lives of our children and grandchildren would be better for it.

Make Barbra Boxer - a more liberal and compassionate woman in our government is hard to find - head of HHS.

So, you have to toss a bone to the Clintons.  And here it is - other than Hill running the State Department.  First, how do you shut bill TFU?  Appoint him to the Supreme Court.  Its been done before (William Howard Taft) and by tradition SC members don't make public speeches.  He would be happy, and I think, an awesome judge.  Well versed in Constitutional law, and a compassionate person, a great mind, and a good writer, why not? 

And here is the kicker.  I would appoint Chelsea Ambassador to the UN.  It would give her experience in foreign policy, she is articulate, unflappable, and poised.  Not to mention, and honors graduate from Stanford, so she is no dummy.  And it would be good to have a young female as our public face to the world.  And, she is going to be the first female president, might as well start her on that road.

OK, now I am going to smoke ganga.  That would be too awesome to ever happen.
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Kimberly Kilpatrick

Quote from: tekla on February 11, 2008, 02:31:58 PM

And here is the kicker.  I would appoint Chelsea Ambassador to the UN.  It would give her experience in foreign policy, she is articulate, unflappable, and poised.  Not to mention, and honors graduate from Stanford, so she is no dummy.  And it would be good to have a young female as our public face to the world.  And, she is going to be the first female president, might as well start her on that road.

OK, now I am going to smoke ganga.  That would be too awesome to ever happen.
I agree someone needs to step up to the plate. On some other sites I visit mainly a British one I am slammed for my country's lack of woman leaders . Being gendered female I think it's time for a woman president just appease the world and being a example of all are created equal not just men.
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tekla

There are many who would claim that its not just men, its "white men" and who could deny that Colin Powell would have been better that GW?  Race trumps gender in America, pretty much.
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Kimberly Kilpatrick

In that case Secretary Rice would be a better pick A black woman president. ::)
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lady amarant

Quote from: Kimberly Kilpatrick on February 11, 2008, 04:18:09 PM
In that case Secretary Rice would be a better pick A black woman president. ::)

Yeah... except that she is a crazy neo-con bent on world domination.

                          "... same thing we do every night Pinky: TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"
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cindianna_jones

Tekla,

I really enjoyed reading your post about the cabinet members.  It's very interesting to see how you are thinking.

Cindi
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tekla

African Americans don't think of Condi as one of them.  And she is not.  Pure house ******** that one is.
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NicholeW.

Quote from: tekla on February 11, 2008, 08:36:36 PM
African Americans don't think of Condi as one of them.  And she is not.  Pure house ******** that one is.

So who do you African-Americans think of as one of you?
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Kimberly Kilpatrick

I wouldn't vote for Rice because of being part of the Bush team.
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Tanya1

I think all these poltics are turning into celebrity gossip with Hillary Clinton being the first women.

I personally don't care if a woman is president or a man. i think their is a lot of hype to be honest though. Obama seems to be overrated and Hilary seems to be chosen by some voters simply because she's a women, sometimes she's attacked and over-critized...

I have a tough desicion deciding between the two but I think I will go for Hillary because she wants to lower the military spending which I think is VERY important. We already paid a load on military costs in Iraq and I think this will be one of the first steps to getting us of out of debt...I also hate the military- just my bias...

Obama while I think that he is an excellent leader. has many long-term plans and such. I think that his support for providing aid  to immigrants is a no no becuase we can't afford to shelter people from other countries at this time..

I due however think his idea of not having health insurance being okay is EXCELLENT.

all in all- I think the candidates all have some very great strenghts but also weaknesses. It depends exactly what is it that us citzens need the most- which I believe is fixing up the stupid mess in Iraq- and telling the military to back off

obama however is a very postive character and I believe he has strong motivitation.

Hillary is okay in character- I like her idea of lessening the control of the military which I think really broke this country apart..

So again- I would vote for Hillary but I may consider Obama..
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lisagurl

If you want to see real change away from corporations running this country vote for Ralph Nader.
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tekla

Losing 11 primaries in a row is pretty much a death song.  She needs 60%+ in the remaining contests to win, ain't gonna happen.
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mickiejr1815

on a lighter note, on saturday night live, it's like Tina Fey said, women are still doing what Oprah tells them to do, she endorses Obama, so I am looking to see him win, or McCain beat him out by like 2 delegates or some bs like that. it's gonna be another Bush/Gore election. grrrrrr!!!!!!!!



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tekla

 Have you counted the number of African-Americans in the country of late?  (or even in Jefferson's time)   The entire Jim Crow system was based on minority control of a majority.  States that have not gone blue since pre-Nixon, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, are all going to show up and vote the brother in.  He has it in a walk. 

Even ignoring that, the person who can speak beats the person who can't.  Obama is a gifted public speaker, McCain is like listening to paint dry.

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Keira


Seriously, I don't see it. Obama is a better public
speaker than McCain, but he's not that good.
I seriously think Obama is a lot of hype
and that in fact he's not a better speaker than Hillary.
Hillary has just not the being the New Kid in Town, and
freshness.

But, whatever floats the boat of the 30% of americans who
actually vote I suppose... If poor americans actually voted there is no chance that the republicans would have any chance of being elected, but they don't, so its competitive.

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tekla

#36
McCain is crazy, as corrupt as they come.  You or I could beat him.
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NicholeW.

Quote from: tekla on February 25, 2008, 03:51:58 PM
Have you counted the number of African-Americans in the country of late?  (or even in Jefferson's time)  

Between 11% and 12% of the adult population. I believe that in Mississippi and Alabama the percentages are 3 to 4 times that, but no AA majorities outside of D.C. I think.

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tekla

closer to 20% in the general population, close to 80% in the deep (ie es-slave country) south.
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NicholeW.

Quote from: tekla on February 25, 2008, 04:59:27 PM
closer to 20% in the general population, close to 80% in the deep (ie es-slave country) south.

You should fact-check instead of shooting from the hip, these figures from the 2000 Census should show you how badly off you are. AAs drop yearly as a percentage of the total population, as do Caucs.

RACE

Total population3 ................................. 248 709 873 100.0
Hispanic or Latino (of any race)3 ...................... 22 354 059 9.0
Not Hispanic or Latino3 ................................. 226 355 814 91.0
White ...................................................... 188 128 296 75.6
Black or African American ........................... 29 216 293 11.7
American Indian and Alaska Native ............... 1 793 773 0.7
Asian ...................................................... 6 642 481 2.7
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander ...... 325 878 0.1
Some other race ....................................... 249 093 0.1

You want state by state in the Deep South?


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