Miss absolutely nothing, I hated doing ''guy stuff'' now I never have to do it, hubby does it all.

I find these types of discussions, weird.

I grew up in a household where my 3 brothers (2 older 1 younger) and myself had NO set boundaries of Gender roles/expectations.

We shared all outside/inside duties/work/chores.  My mother was not big on what was boy or girl activities.  We all shared in - house cleaning - some cooking/baking - craft/hobbies.  After my sister came along (I was about 9-10), we also shared in her stuff - feeding - washing - take for strolls/walking.  One of the few things we didn't do was change diapers, this was back in the day of cloth diapers and big pins.  But we did get involved with the cleanup mess.

I have always wondered what all the "manly" things that most say they do or don't miss.

My partner (MtF Post also) and I shared in all duties around the house.  She was very good on mechanical/building things.  We shared car work.  But she would build cabinets/install tiles/bathroom fixes.  I was the electrical/electronics/computer person.  But we would share in those activities and yard work.  Re-built our outside deck together.

My work (computer maintenance/programming) was not what one might call "manly" but was male dominated.  After my transition in place I was able to really come alive as my true self.  Did not have to play the male crap games.  But I am an Alpha female and always take charge, and within a couple of years I was in charge of those same 20 some guys.

Wish others would share just what "manly" activities they gave up or don't regret, as I am big on gender equality.  Men and women can and do most all the same activities.  To me the only male/female roles are our sex related things.

QuoteMy work (computer maintenance/programming) was not what one might call "manly" but was male dominated.

Way back in the B.C. (before computers) era, typing class in high school was only for those in the business (read secretarial) stream.  Most guys wound up in shop classes and so never saw a typewriter.  These days, typing is now called "keyboarding" and everyone needs it, to work with computers.

When I was in HS 1964-68, electrical/electronics was considered a "shop" class.  I also took a course in woodworking, thought it might be able to be useful in the future.  Never took typing, as you I figured it was for secretaries.

I did become very fast typing with 2 fingers and thumbs later on.  Had to type many letters between surgery hospitals and HR for transition, also before widespread on-line and personal Computers.

Hate the phrase (Before Computers), as they have been around since the 40s.

Sleeping in.  I moved my alarm 40 minutes earlier to get ready!

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Quote from: Georgette on May 27, 2017, 04:54:16 PM
When I was in HS 1964-68, electrical/electronics was considered a "shop" class.  I also took a course in woodworking, thought it might be able to be useful in the future.  Never took typing, as you I figured it was for secretaries.

I did become very fast typing with 2 fingers and thumbs later on.  Had to type many letters between surgery hospitals and HR for transition, also before widespread on-line and personal Computers.

Hate the phrase (Before Computers), as they have been around since the 40s.
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The 40s ?? For real??  I thought it wasnt until the 80s when they started using computers and the 90s when they made ones that actually were useful.  I do remember watching a program about this huge computer that filled a room. It was called brainiac or something. But that was in the 60s wasn't it?  Supposedly that brainiac computer was just a huge calculator .

Electric computers were first designed in world war II in order to calculate firing tables for military guns and also the development of the atomic bomb. The first programmable computer was designed in the 1800's by Charles Babbage but it wasn't built because machining wasn't up to the task of making the precision parts it required. There is a modern attempt at duplicating the machine today and it works as advertised.

QuoteHate the phrase (Before Computers), as they have been around since the 40s.

Yes, I know.  But I was thinking about before when most people had them.  Personal computers didn't appear until the mid '70s.  Dena mentioned the ENIAC, which was built at the University of Pennsylvania, for the U.S. Army.  There was also the Colossus computer, used by British code breakers in WW2.  Even prior to that, there were programmable calculators that worked with common punch card equipment.

Ah, youth. My first computer was an abacus. 2700 BC.   

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on May 27, 2017, 09:05:40 PM
Ah, youth. My first computer was an abacus. 2700 BC.   

Oh yeah, my first computer they hadn't invented 'c', 'o', or 'm' yet, so it was a 'puter.' Yes, I'm a 'puter' from way back.
Moni

Let's not forget, prior to electronic computers, computers were people who did calculations all day.  There's a book and recent movie, "Hidden Figures", about the female "computers" behind the early U.S. space program.

Quote from: HappyMoni on May 25, 2017, 06:57:10 PM
I miss not being self conscious about my voice. I don't miss the actual voice.
Moni

Same here. 

Not having to worry about a tuck coming undone in tight clothing and potentially outing you to friends when you are super stealth and passable.