Perhaps we Western TGs have to put up with a lot of nonsense from some people.  The message threads here often reveal problems caused by others and, with the Trump administration, things appear to be getting worse in the U.S.  Even without that, when I was a kid, being TG, gay, etc., was considered a mental illness for which you might be forced into treatment.  Back then, I was terrified someone would find out what I wanted.  I wish this part of the world was like Thailand in this respect.

Besides the girly things like clothes, makeup and nails for me it is mostly about acceptance into the female world. And I am really lucky here. A lot of women have totally opened up. From period problems to the beauty secrets not even their husbands / partners know. Being filled in on the latest beauty trends, discussions about shoes and regularly getting notified which department store has a sale going on.

I also noticed women I don't know interact differently now, I feel the secret bond of women and it feels I am part of it.

And all of this without having a chance to pass. I have mostly given up that hope. SO something has changed which makes me more feminine.

Warlockmaker raises a good point. Much of what many of us feel related to passing and femininity is linked to the strong gender binary embedded in the "western" culture.  We've soaked for a long time in a culture where femininity is conflated with standards of beauty that are almost unattainable, for the purpose of selling us magical potions to make us beautiful and unlock our femininity.

I know this and am fully aware that it is nothing more than product marketing, yet I have been steeping in this so long that I find it difficult to shake.

The message that we aren't truly feminine unless we look, move, even smell "just so" according to the whims of the season and Marketing is pervasive and toxic.


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I'm military so while at work and in uniform, I underdress (mainly panties and socks, stockings or pantyhose). when not at work sometimes al I need is a touch of perfume to make me feel better.

I just like to go for a walk through my local town. It's people that make me feel feminine as I navigate my day.
I also find comfort in holding my shoulder bag strap as I amble along:)

Peace and love and all that good stuff,

Sadie

Quote from: Michelle_P on June 22, 2017, 12:00:03 PM
Warlockmaker raises a good point. Much of what many of us feel related to passing and femininity is linked to the strong gender binary embedded in the "western" culture.  We've soaked for a long time in a culture where femininity is conflated with standards of beauty that are almost unattainable, for the purpose of selling us magical potions to make us beautiful and unlock our femininity.

I know this and am fully aware that it is nothing more than product marketing, yet I have been steeping in this so long that I find it difficult to shake.

The message that we aren't truly feminine unless we look, move, even smell "just so" according to the whims of the season and Marketing is pervasive and toxic.


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True enough.....and it's totally wrong. But it doesn't change that it "is". Added to that fact is the point you made that your Id is steeped in the stuff so even though you rationalize one thing, you feel another. It's all so mind numbing....down the rabbit hole we go.

I agree wholeheartedly that Western Society has simmered us in an unrealistic idea of what a woman should be and how she looks.  Like the most of us though i have been in it to long.  the things that make me feel Feminine are skirts,and heels, getting my hair done.  i should include makeup into my routine but i wake up at 5 am anyway so its hard to do in the morning.  i wish that i did not have a need to feel feminine at all times i guess i just want that moment i only get on occasion.  that feeling that i am a beautiful woman astheticaly and i feel validation from those feelings.  i have been full time coming up on 10 years and i remember my first bra that made me feel amazing so much so that i skipped living part time and went full time immediately.  i also know women can work on cars and wear masculine clothing but i feel like cis people feel confident doing those things because they were always cis and dont have the experience we share.  we waited to be our own woman we grew into our inner princess later in life.  so maybe for me i some times feel embarrassed or ashamed when im not feeling 100 percent feminine more so when im trying to use my girl voice even though its devloped i cant get the nerve to use it all the time.even my voice is an idea of what society thinks i should sound like.  i know no one is 100 percent of anything, but its just scrubs are sooo ugly lol.  i appreciate all your replys

Thank you
Alice

The scrubs that they sell at www.jaanuu.com are very pretty and fitted, with feminine cuts.  Could those be an option for you?

unfortunately those wont work but are super cute thank you they will work for my spouse. but mine are sage and embossed with the company logo:(

I have not transitioned at all but I have a few "sneaky" ways to feel feminine.  I have a pair or running tights I wear.....even when maybe it isn't THAT cold out, for example.

I am a member of a baseball message board that I post on in my female persona.

It is the simple pleasures.

When I start to feel masculine (usually when my uterus reminds me it doesn't exist), I put on some Bob Villa



...then toss on a baseball cap backwards, crack open a Busch, stick my hand in a comfy Al Bundy style setting (let's say), light up a cigar, and challenge my cat to an arm-wrestling match.

The trick here is to get even MORE masculine, so anything even remotely feminine like shopping online at dresslily.com, [Like]ing people's baby pictures on Facebook, changing the glade refill, making a crêpe with blueberries, wiping front to back, etc etc, will feel like snowboarding naked down a rainbow made of pony whiskers whilst hearing heaven's harps glissando delicately in your ears.

Try it.  I guarantee it works, as does post-op Orville Redenbacher:

QuoteTry it.  I guarantee it works, as does post-op Orville Redenbacher:

For those who don't know, the "Orville" on the right is Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne.

She's the first openly gay Ontario Premier.  It was her government that brought in the changes that opened up the process for transgenders and also is creating a new TG surgery site in Toronto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Wynne

Quote from: AnneK on June 23, 2017, 10:52:40 AM
For those who don't know, the "Orville" on the right is Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne.

She's the first openly gay Ontario Premier.  It was her government that brought in the changes that opened up the process for transgenders and also is creating a new TG surgery site in Toronto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Wynne

YEAH THAT'S WHAT CANADA WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE

Those in the know, know that it's Ms. Redenbacher, who faked their own death in order to transition, and is still popping up fresh and delicious popcorn for your taste enjoyment.

That woman does look like him. Lol. is orville redenbacher like someone famous or something?

Quote from: Julia1996 on June 23, 2017, 11:07:10 AM
That woman does look like him. Lol. is orville redenbacher like someone famous or something?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orville_Redenbacher
http://www.orville.com/

Being able to paint my toes after having foot fungus.  Half cup vinegar, 2 tablspoons Bicarb and a couple cups of warm water to soak them in. Gets rid of dead skin too. It will rub right off. I saw results after the first time and each subsequent soak clears them up more and more.

My hair! Playing with it, brushing it, getting it colored or styled, even just getting my bangs trimmed. I love my hair!

When hubby gives me flowers and takes me out to dinner and proud to have me as his wife, makes me feel feminine and fully validated as a woman.

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When hubby gives me flowers and takes me out to dinner and proud to have me as his wife, makes me feel feminine and fully validated as a woman.

Awww.  That's a very sweet answer.  Good for you!  Jealous!