Awwwww, Claire. You shouldn't take things so personally . Certainly there's no need to insult me. I've expressed my opinion in an open forum. Threads here are not private fiefdoms. If all you want is commiseration, perhaps you should have titled your thread "pity party for Claire...only post if you think I'm right"
     Your own brand of misogyny points to some weird idealized idea of the helpless fawning and indignant female being put upon by the bad men of the world, an archetype that I find quite repugnant. Perhaps you should stick to the "which bra and panty should I wear?" threads. You may find you'll be less prone to hysterics there.
      You've chosen to make this personal and insult me. I did not imply anything about your character or lack thereof.  You on the other hand have chosen to expose yourself as a petulant child in your previous post.
     I've merely stated how I'd handle things and how I'd behave in a given situation. None of that warranted your baseless attacks on me.   

I think Michelle has a sensible suggestion - I wasn't aware the US TSA published a Medical Notification Card format.
Other countries probably have something similar, or you can re-use this one until they do. A card like that allows you to inform security if you decide to do so, without making a public announcement.

I have traveled quite a bit including international, and have occasionally run into frustrations that have nothing to do with gender.  And this reminds me - on a flight from Los Angeles to Sydney, a male co-worker I was traveling with was stopped at the security line.  TSA informed him loudly enough I could hear their exact words: "sir you have an anomaly in your pants".  He broke out laughing, but then quieted down when he realized it ain't a good place to start joking around.  Nothing major happened, they did the pat-down as he stood there silently with a "yeah so I am well endowed down there" smirk.  There was nothing in his pants, other than what he was born with.  This was 5 years ago before machines were upgraded and US TSA procedures improved.  If he had made a scene or refused to be patted down, he probably would have been stuck there with his anomaly. 

Other forms of prejudice have caused people to make calculated sacrifices with great social impact - for example getting arrested for refusing to sit in the back of the bus, or interracial marriage (when I was born, my existence was a felony in several US states).  But I don't think missing a flight will cause any meaningful improvement in the way transgender people are treated.  I am not trying to downplay the frustration of things that can and do happen, but I follow the security rules and do my best to keep the line moving. 

Making the best of a flawed system seems like a fine way to keep that crappy system going. Personally I respect people who kick up a stink and speak out, far more than I respect the individualist who only cares about their personal convenience and will stay silent or in the face of institutional mistreatment. Or worse, defend said institutions.

Quote from: jentay1367 on June 23, 2017, 05:17:09 PM
I've expressed my opinion in an open forum....I've merely stated how I'd handle things and how I'd behave in a given situation.

No, you didn't.

Phrases like 'you asked for it' and 'your approach to disclosure is unacceptable' are not opinions or constructive offerings.

They are gas-lighting.

The words 'you asked for it' have been used to delegitimise so many social issues in human history.

I'll just ignore the rest of your patronising remarks.
This isn't about my identity or character. It's about a problem with TSA processes at foreign ports.






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Quote from: Kendra on June 23, 2017, 05:52:01 PM
I think Michelle has a sensible suggestion - I wasn't aware the US TSA published a Medical Notification Card format.
Other countries probably have something similar, or you can re-use this one until they do. A card like that allows you to inform security if you decide to do so, without making a public announcement.

I have traveled quite a bit including international, and have occasionally run into frustrations that have nothing to do with gender.  And this reminds me - on a flight from Los Angeles to Sydney, a male co-worker I was traveling with was stopped at the security line.  TSA informed him loudly enough I could hear their exact words: "sir you have an anomaly in your pants".  He broke out laughing, but then quieted down when he realized it ain't a good place to start joking around.  Nothing major happened, they did the pat-down as he stood there silently with a "yeah so I am well endowed down there" smirk.  There was nothing in his pants, other than what he was born with.  This was 5 years ago before machines were upgraded and US TSA procedures improved.  If he had made a scene or refused to be patted down, he probably would have been stuck there with his anomaly. 

Other forms of prejudice have caused people to make calculated sacrifices with great social impact - for example getting arrested for refusing to sit in the back of the bus, or interracial marriage (when I was born, my existence was a felony in several US states).  But I don't think missing a flight will cause any meaningful improvement in the way transgender people are treated.  I am not trying to downplay the frustration of things that can and do happen, but I follow the security rules and do my best to keep the line moving.

So you would submit to undressing and being touched in the genitals?


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Carrying a card that discloses your transgender status and requests some discretion in public sounds like a pretty good idea then... particularly if you are travelling with business associates.

Unfortunately, I don't think it will get you out of a body search by a screening officer. And it's not guaranteed to ensure you are treated any more respectfully. But hopefully it will bring the officer to a state of awareness of the situation quickly without having public conversations...


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I understand now what you are doing - I've said all I will say.  Have a great day.