Quote from: N A on July 24, 2017, 11:09:59 AM
I think that's very mature way to think it 

About irregular periods... funny you should ask. I have never had normal ones (and I'm about 30), maybe every six weeks or so but I never write these times down so I'm not sure. I probably should. Also my periods are barely noticeable and not painful, and I'm guessing I have too little estrogen in my system. I'm also pretty slim now, but I could weight 14 pounds more and still it would be the same, so it's not because of that. I have no idea if this increases the risk of cancer, I think your doctor can better answer that - but I think it's fairly normal to have irregular period when still young, in your teens or maybe even early twenties? However, I'd suggest talking to your doctor. In my understanding too low estrogen (if that indeed is what causes irregular period) can affect your fertility, cause hair loss, depression, tiredness, fragile bones etc. Besides, if you have pains then your doctor can help you with that, too.

I'm very bad at being a role model and haven't really sorted this out with my doctor, but that's not something I will recommend to anyone. Even less so if you experience a lot of pain; in my understanding that + high testosterone levels can be indicative of PCOS and that would have to be properly treated, or else there's a chance it spreads and causes even more pain and damage.

Thank you for telling me, I have a more better understanding of this now.
Thank you so much <3

Quote from: elkie-t on July 24, 2017, 11:06:07 AM
Don't put words into my mouth, dude. I am saying that it's a smart thing to do unless you want to have a baby. Regardless whether it is voluntary sex or a some form of rape. And I don't put any blame on a rape victim.

Obviously OP isn't in a position to confront his parents on the issue, so I recommend to find a form of contraception that is less invasive for him

Fair enough. Didn't mean to, but to me it did sound kinda... brutal. Besides, I too love some good confrontation 

I suppose if you live in some place without universal health care and proper insurance that point might make some sense, even to me... or maybe if you're against abortion but not birth control... Idk. I could not imagine using any hormonal birth control method, or have that copper anchor thingy inserted into me for that matter, but to each their own.

Quote from: N A on July 24, 2017, 11:23:17 AM
Fair enough. Didn't mean to, but to me it did sound kinda... brutal. Besides, I too love some good confrontation 

I suppose if you live in some place without universal health care and proper insurance that point might make some sense, even to me... or maybe if you're against abortion but not birth control... Idk. I could not imagine using any hormonal birth control method, or have that copper anchor thingy inserted into me for that matter, but to each their own.

What do you have against that copper anchor thingy? It's not more intrusive than a regular OB/gyn exam, is a one time deal done by a professional, is not hormonal and you don't feel it inside in any way and basically can just forget about it.

Although, different people have different perceptions and priorities, I understand it. Just wanted to offer some helpful suggestion for a person in a difficult situation tbh, that's all

Quote from: elkie-t on July 24, 2017, 11:39:12 AM
What do you have against that copper anchor thingy? It's not more intrusive than a regular OB/gyn exam, is a one time deal done by a professional, is not hormonal and you don't feel it inside in any way and basically can just forget about it.

Although, different people have different perceptions and priorities, I understand it. Just wanted to offer some helpful suggestion for a person in a difficult situation tbh, that's all

Nothing really, except that I don't want to have it in me, peri... I mean full stop. I also hate gyn exams with passion and have mainly managed to avoid those (and yes I will probably pay for that later). OB is no use to me, check my post above.

It's a good birth control method for some, no doubt about it; but I'll rather have myself sterilized if I ever feel like having sex again. Just a preference.

You should read about PCOS. It can cause irregular and painful periods.

You should also read research about birth control pills. I know here in Sweden you can't take the hormone pills if someone in your family history has had heart problems or clots in the blood stream causing heart attacks or stroke or something else. The risk of blood clotting is much higher with hormone pills.

Show that research to your parents.

Quote from: N A on July 24, 2017, 11:51:30 AM


It's a good birth control method for some, no doubt about it; but I'll rather have myself sterilized if I ever feel like having sex again. Just a preference.

I've done a hysterectomy. I have no regrets at all. No periods no gyn appointments required.

Quote from: MeTonie on July 24, 2017, 02:04:43 PM
I know here in Sweden you can't take the hormone pills if someone in your family history has had heart problems or clots in the blood stream causing heart attacks or stroke or something else. The risk of blood clotting is much higher with hormone pills.

That's a good point too. I believe certain types of migraine are also counter-indicative of birth control pills containing estrogen, as there's increased risk of a stroke.

Quote from: MeTonie on July 24, 2017, 02:07:19 PM

I've done a hysterectomy. I have no regrets at all. No periods no gyn appointments required.

That does sound tempting, but isn't it a risky operation. I doubt I could have it done just in order to not get pregnant. Besides, I thought after hysto you would have to be on hormones, either T or E. Is that correct or did I just make that up? If you don't mind enlightening me!

They probably think estrogen will cure you.


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Quote from: N A on July 24, 2017, 02:59:49 PM


That does sound tempting, but isn't it a risky operation. I doubt I could have it done just in order to not get pregnant. Besides, I thought after hysto you would have to be on hormones, either T or E. Is that correct or did I just make that up? If you don't mind enlightening me!

I still have my ovaries. No hormone pills. Testosterone is produced in adrenals and ovaries in those born in women bodies. But in much less amount compared to those born in mens bodies. If they would have removed my ovaries I would have had to eat estrogen and not get the missing testosterone. I belive I have more T in my system than most born women, I am androgynus and often have been gendered male. Even before my binder and short hair.

Btw. The surgery was done through the baby-hole. No visible scars. It was over in 30 minutes and I was put to sleep during that time. Moderate pain after surgery. I was up watching tv 3 hours later. Got to go home the next day.

Quote from: Gertrude on July 24, 2017, 03:15:14 PM
They probably think estrogen will cure you.


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EXACTLY

Quote from: PeterSteele on July 24, 2017, 04:45:04 PM

Quote from: Gertrude on July 24, 2017, 03:15:14 PM
They probably think estrogen will cure you.


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EXACTLY

Then tell them they put little or no estrogen in modern pill so it isn't going to happen. They reduced the amount of estrogen in birth control pills to reduce the risk of cancer in women using them. Also tell your doctor this is the real reason your parents want you on the pill. This isn't a good reason for taking the pill and your doctor should know it.

Also tell them to get ready for bad grades and behavior issues because if they do manage to give you estrogen, it will only make things worst. Many members tell stories about attempted cures like that and it turns into a disaster.

I don't think that 'bad grades and lots of unprotected sex' would actually scare parents. Parents know that those are empty threats and they could do many more restrictions to make teenager life more difficult. I'd stay away from threats to harm yourself or your future or act irresponsibly. Acting mature has its own merits


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Quote from: MeTonie on July 24, 2017, 04:18:57 PM
I still have my ovaries. No hormone pills. Testosterone is produced in adrenals and ovaries in those born in women bodies. But in much less amount compared to those born in mens bodies. If they would have removed my ovaries I would have had to eat estrogen and not get the missing testosterone. I belive I have more T in my system than most born women, I am androgynus and often have been gendered male. Even before my binder and short hair.

Thankies! I think I had mixed things up somehow in my head, if it really is that easy that's great. I could see myself opting in this sort of operation.

I suspect I might have too much T also, at least compared to E. Needless to say, I wouldn't want to change that.