Hello everyone

I have just started to come to terms with the massive uphill struggle ahead of me, and hair removal is obviously one of the big ones (in physical terms) as an MTF moving individual and am positive that a recurring topic on here must be about permanent hair removal creams, the holy grail of hair removal.  Snake oil, secret weapon or something else?

I found this website promoting a promise of long term hair removal (we're talking years) after several applications and found nothing but reviews that seemed sketchy.  However, they describe it as a product from Japan (although is sold and dispatched from a company in Singapore).  I can imagine that a domestic Japanese product might struggle to market itself much beyond its borders.  I mean, look how "Japanese" some products are from major corporations with massive budgets when they try and bring them to the west.  As often as not they fail, so a small company with a specialist product could easily fail to capitalise on foreign markets, particularly if they get drowned out by conventional wisdom and major western companies that want us to buy razor blades, creams and lotions every week, not just once.

Well, I have ordered buckets of this stuff (20 tubes at a cost of about $500).  They took ages to arrive and I am at the very earliest stages of seeing whether it works. 

So far, I have made about 8 applications to my bikini area.  The first three times I left it on for the recommended time, about 10 minutes (maximum) and while it acted like Veet or Nair it did little more than a standard depilatory cream to my mind.  However, then I found a review buried on a forum that said it does work if you persevere and also, leave it on for a long time past the recommended period.  To me this might also have been the company telling you to persevere (i.e. buy more and use it again and again) rather than a legitimate review, so I was skeptical.

So, I then started ramping up the applications to about 30-40 minutes and then using an exfoliating cloth to scrub down in the shower afterwards.

I have noticed some reduction, but wasn't sure how much.  I work on ships and am away from home for extended periods, so after 6 weeks away, I saw my wife (who is starting to realise I may be MTF and in fact is trying to be very supportive about it (another story)), she was very surprised and said she thought I had over 60% reduction in the bikini area.  I have dark aggressive male hair and it regrows quicker than bamboo and is about the same thickness.

I was very surprised to hear her say that.  To me it looks a little thinner, but I have so much hair there, it's hard to know for sure.  I have been focusing on this critical area and only had three tubes with me on the ship, so was rationing them out at about 1/3 of a tube a week and only on this area.  Then, any extra cream I spread over my thighs and armpits in the thinnest layer you can imagine, no more than a thin layer of moisturiser.

I can certainly see a large reduction in the hair on my thighs (yay!), however the armpits are similar to the bikini area and I struggle to see how much reduction there is, if any.  It is also far too early to know how permanent it might end up being.

My thought is that, even if it takes 40 tubes and 20 applications over my body, if it does work, then it's still a fraction of the price of electrolysis and so much more convenient.  Especially as my wife is happy to smear it over me when I am home.

Another thought, is that if I see that it is thinning the hairs themselves (and therefore having an effect) and thinning density as well, perhaps I could couple it with a home IPL/laser and use the combination as a kind of knockout cocktail, where the two might work together to radically reduce hair and to an all but permanent level.

So, do any of you have any experience with this cream?  Am I wasting my time.  Ideally, I would like to hear from others who may have tried it, rather than someone who is just expressing their belief that it is probably too good to be true.  I am using it with my eyes wide open.  I know it is probably too good to be true.  It is certainly doing something, but I can't quite quantify it yet.  Each application is a week apart and I have just had to leave home again (unscheduled) to relieve someone on a ship due to a family bereavement and I am stuck here for another month and a half with none of the cream with me.

It's driving me nuts.  All I want to do is remove this damned hair from my whole body.  I feel so liberated when I am silky smooth and each time I feel those barbs probing back out from the surface and coating me like a gorilla I feel so despondent.  So, I figure, the least I can do is use this time to learn a bit more and ask for help/advice.

I haven't put the brand name in as I am absolutely not trying to promote this stuff.  For all I know it could be carcinogenic or even prevent more effective methods from working in the future, but I am giving it a shot.  With my career it's by far my best option right now and I cannot live with body hair any longer.  I have to at least know I am moving in the right direction otherwise I may just go even more insane.

:-)

Welcome to Susan's Place. I haven't had any experience with a product like that but I suspect it's mostly snake oil. The hair root is well below the skin and even with electrolysis it's difficult to destroy the root. A cream that could get that deep without burning much of the skin sounds a little impossible. We do know that suppressing testosterone will reduce body hair so a cream that blocks testosterone from the root might have a limited effect but it would probable end shortly after you ran out of cream. It would be best to get on a proper HRT treatment program and then consider laser or electrolysis to deal with the unwanted hair.

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I think unfortunately this has caused a delay in starting laser and/or electrolysis, which are proven.

Quote from: MissMonique on July 31, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
> they describe it as a product from Japan (although is sold and dispatched from a company in Singapore).  I can imagine that a domestic Japanese product might struggle to market itself much beyond its borders. 

I visited Japan several dozen times starting in 1969, most recently in March of this year.  Total more than half a year.  Never saw this product in Japan.