Sorry - trying to keep so much information straight.
Yesterday - I went out to locate and confront those pesky petition gatherers. The very first paragraph portion was the header from an email sent by a close ally, Christine - who works with Jim Kennedy that founded the Vigilance Blog and Teach the
facts.org. Jim and Christine, Dr. Dana Beyer, all the folks at Equality Maryland, and many newly found local TG friends have both been an indomitable helpforce to me and everyone here that has been out on the roads hunting these people down for days and days now. next section below that, but before the asterisks, was from a friend that blsted their organization this morning for smearing us with lies to their supporters and the general public. Just above the very first page break/asterisk line.
That email to me, from Christine at Vigilance, at the very top of this posting also contained the CRG's eblast letter to all of their supporters and followers (IN BOLD header - 2 sections down) -
She sent me a copy of the CGR/CRC (the opponents seemingly ever growing local organizations) report this morning, basically warning me that Dr. Beyer and myself have now been viciously smeared with lies and distortions of harassment and threat of lawsuits, in their continuing campaign updates and web blasts to the general public and all of their allies.
I posted that, as well as my immediate response to their lies below that, as well as parts of my narrative of actual events that show these things did not occur as they have said. Just go to the blog site if it gets too hard to follow. Trying to condense a massive amount of documentation here after 30-36 hours going straight now, so please forgive if its a little hard to follow. I used page breaks and asterisks to separate the sections.
Thanks,
Maryanne
Posted on: February 18, 2008, 11:33:54 AM
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Hi all -
In case anyone out there is actually looking at this story right now, i thought i'd send in the latest updates. i will post the updated links as of today, for the Vigilance blog where a lot of the activity has been focused around. I have also pasted parts of dialogue that occurred in the last 12 hours on this last day of their push to beat us down.
In the last week, opponents have called the police on me personally twice. For trying to engage those opponents and supporters in agressively intelligent and straightforward dialogue as they are spreading lies, complete fallacies, distortions, and fear and mischaracterizations to the general public at large, targeting and tapping into the fears of concerned parents and fellow citizens everywhere in this entire region, as regarding the "dangers" of having this (TG anti-discrimination) law passed here in our county.
They have paid local radio stations for very professional advertising. They have set up a huge robo calling campaign, very professionally recorded, to every home of every registered voter's home in my county - Just outside of Washington, DC.
One of the Local opposition heads, Theresa Rickman - of the CRG (Citzens for responsible Government) and CRC (Citizens for responsible Cirriculum), was interviewed on the CBN - Christian Broadcasting Network and gave a very slanted view. Fox News has given this story time as well from their side, but none of us has had any equal time in the local or national media since their push began during our elections last week.
Myself and many other people - very intelligent people out in the open as far as possible, have been accused and distorted as being a bunch of "transgender thugs and bullies", and trying to interfere with the people's democratic process while they have hundreds of supporters telling lies to all of my fellow county citizens and residents.
I, as well as others - Dr. Dana Beyer, Jim Kennedy and Christine of the Vigilance and Teachthefacts websites, other very professional and well respected TG women, have documented in detail on the vigilance blog, a mostly complete narrative of their tactics, many illegal tactics, and distortions they have used to sell their fear to the general public. I caught every supporter i talked to this week in falsehood and distortions as part of their pitches, and have documented their very words in great detail.
I am as openly out in the public eye as it gets. At one Huge High School literally next door to my home, I was directly involved in having stopped a petition station from illegally collecting signatures under the auspices of legitimately having had permission to target hundreds of families that attend a Chinese school for children there, every Saturday - And These people are keeping words like predator, and pedophile, in close proximity to the word "Transgender" in almost all of their efforts. Using slogans like "keep your Kids safe". the list of distortions is endless now. Dr Beyer, Jim Kennedy, and other friends were instrumental in stopping that one, and having county school security throw the petitioners off the school grounds without saying a word to us.
We have intercepted internal memos and strategic tactics instructions employed by their supporters at petition stations all over the county that are clearly misleading to the public at large.
Myself and others have been publicly smeared en masse, and had many lies and distortions told about us to keep the fear and misperception going. They have targeted the most easily swayed members and demograhpics of the community(ies) that they can in order to get the signatures needed.
I have called them out on the table in their lies and given extremely detailed accounts of what i have seen and heard, and challenged them directly, as is everyone else here that is fighting to keep this law in place. As it still stands, this county is one of many in the U.S. where people like me still have no Federal, State, or local legislative recourse for discriminatory practices in Housing, employment, public services, public facilities and accomodations. If this law is pulled to referendum, we will be back to square one, legislatively speaking.
They have effecticvely placed fear into the minds of millions of local residents throughout the Greater DC/MD/VA area, and associated this fear with all TG people or anyone that falls outside of acceptable "norms" of gender expression or sexuality. Please see the latest blog entires and responses from both sides. I will post the links below, there is a LOT to read here, but i promise it will be worth your time. Please engage every effort possible if you have connections in this area that can help - blogging, websites, letters to papers and other media - anything you think that may help.
Even if they do not effectively get their referendum on this bill, the conservatives and rabid opponents have banded together well, and effectively blanketed my entire home region with lies and fear and continued fostering of every typical misperception, negative connotation, and stereotypical view that exists about anyone like ourselves. I believe that was a specific part of their goal all along.
I have posted an exchange between myself and Ms. Rickman this morning, as well as others, just to give you an idea of some of the disgusting tactics being used.
Thanks and happy hunting,
Sincerely,
Maryanne
LINKS:
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FROM THE VIGILANCE BLOG THIS MORNING:
Emproph said...
Full transcript of Rickman CBN interview:
NEWS ANCHOR: Citizens in one Maryland county are fighting a new law that grants special rights to ->-bleeped-<-s, cross-dressers and transsexuals.
Citizens for a Responsible Government has launched a petition drive to repeal the measure that was passed by the Montgomery County Council.
The group says the bill essentially creates co-ed bathrooms and locker rooms that would put women and girls at risk.
They also say it lets transgender advocates indoctrinate kids in local schools.
And it allows transgender teachers and faculty to be open about their sexual choices.
Joining us now with more on this is Theresa Rickman of Citizens for a Responsible Government. And Theresa, first of all, were you able to collect enough petition signatures to fight this measure?
THERESA RICKMAN: Well right now we have between 25,000 and 26,000 raw signatures. We need approximately 30,000 raw signatures. They're due tomorrow by 5 o'clock to the Board of Educatio--Elections. (sic)
NEWS ANCHOR: So you need 5,000 more, overnight.
THERESA RICKMAN: Well, when I say what we have between 25,000 and 26,000, that's actually that we've got physically in our possession right now. The piles are still coming in, so, we're hopeful.
NEWS ANCHOR: Well explain how this law would lead to co-ed bathrooms that would put women and girls in danger.
THERESA RICKMAN: Well the issue is, is they've taken gender identity, and added it to the public accommodations non-discrimination code. So the public accommodations, which essentially refers to not discriminating in access to facilities at public accommodations, and public accommodations in general -- was written over twenty years ago. To racially -- it's racial desegregation law, and it's already got sexual orientation in the non-discrimination code...
NEWS ANCHOR: Theresa, let me break it down. So you're saying basically that a man who's dressed as a woman, he's fully a man, but he could be, you know, wearing lipstick and a skirt, could walk into a public, girl's, woman's restroom, and that would be ok under this new law in Montgomery County.
THERESA RICKMAN: Yeah. Absolutely. What they've done is they've added gender identity, to that desegregation code for public accommodations, and they've defined gender identity -- let me read you this definition -- Gender Identity means an individual's actual or perceived gender, including a person's gender related appearance, expression, image, identity or behavior, whether or not those gender related characteristics differ from the characteristics customarily associated with the person's assigned sex at birth.
NEWS ANCHOR: And I understand this is already -- this law's already been tested, so to speak.
THERESA RICKMAN: Yeah, there was an incident over at Rio Sport and Health where a guy dressed as a girl walked in the ladies' locker room. So, you know on the federal level, when they added -- when they talked about, you know, putting a gender identity non-discrimination law at a federal level, Barney Frank, suggested an exemption for places of shared nudity. So, what we have in Montgomery County here, is, Montgomery County is more liberal than Barney Frank.
NEWS ANCHOR: So you're saying -- but do the people of Montgomery County want this?
THERESA RICKMAN: No, actually the County Council received approximately 2500 emails and phone calls against this bill, at an 82% rate. And the County Council did not react.
NEWS ANCHOR: Alright. Theresa Rickman, we will be following this story and we thank you for your insights on the program today.
THERESA RICKMAN: Thank you for having us.
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February 18, 2008 9:41 PM
Dana Beyer, M.D. said...
Emails and phone calls at an 82% rate. Wow! Is that a reaction rate, Theresa? What are the dimensions you're using (you're an engineer, after all).
Btw, for those other than Theresa who knows what she's obfuscating -- "perceived" gender refers not to an individual's actual gender, who they know they are in their minds, but to what OTHERS perceive it to be. So when Theresa uses the women's bathroom, and I perceive her to be a trans man, I can currently have her removed -- based on my perception. It doesn't matter what her ID says. Under the new law, my perception would not take precedence over her reality, which, I admit, is more likely to be butch lesbian than trans man. And since lesbians are women, they are theoretically safe when they show ID. Of course, that is, if the proprietor bothers to ask for ID, which he didn't do in NY in a recent case.
So, Theresa, maybe you would like to complete the interview and tell them it protects people like you more than it does those like me. Which it does, since there are far more women who look masculine like you than there are trans women in MoCo.
February 18, 2008 9:55 PM
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Anonymous said...
According to information, Dana and Mary Ann are a bunch of transgender thugs interfering with a person's constitutional rights to petition the government. You certainly have presented yourself exactly like you really are, a bunch of intolerant bullies. You didn't score very many brownie points with the general public. After your preposterous demonstrations the other day, most people were saying there was no way they would allow you in the bathrooms with ladies. You may think you are girls, but you are not ladies. No wonder the cops were called and came to tell these bullies to cease the harassment and if it continued, the cops would return to escort you off the site. Why pick on grandmothers?
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February 18, 2008 11:44 PM
Dana Beyer, M.D. said...
Ah, yes, Anon, I've been stopped three times today trying to go to the bathroom. The public is up in arms. We are such thugs.
How come that for the dozen or so times the police were called by you, you were asked to leave completely, and we were only once asked to move off the sidewalk? And that was at Arliss where the store manager had misread his communication and allowed a violation of the contract with Dr. Ruth.
Btw, Anon, you give your age away with the use of "girls" and "ladies." This isn't the 50's anymore, however much you'd like to believe it so. But I guess I should thank you for getting the gender correct, finally.
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Anonymous said...(Theresa Rickman)
Okay, Mary Ann is 5'10 and Dana is 6' something and this grandma is 5'1. Cythnia is 6'2 did she say in heels..
Again, this grandma is five feet 1' not 5'10. She is not tall. So you did tower over her folks.
Our male volunteer suggested the hug because he felt sorry for you Mary Ann. He is a little unhappy the way you twisted it around, he did feel intimidated with all 5 of you surrounding him, he doesn't read email very frequently so he didn't know to get the store manager or call the cops when you blockaded him. He recognized he wasn't going to get anymore signatures that day so he packed up and left. He got 132 signature the very next day at the very same place :-)....
He is a very nice man and cares about everyone. What you fail to acknowledge is that you are stepping on the rights of very man, woman and child in MC with this law.. the 99.something percentage of us who are positive which sex we are.
theresa
February 19, 2008 6:30 AM
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February 19, 2008 8:24 AM
Maryanne Arnow said...
Dear Theresa,
At last we almost directly exchange a little dialogue.
A pleasure to meet you at last.
If you go to the "Countering Petitions Section" where i have just given another full narrative, you will see where i have used quotation marks as much as possible to document as much of what i can remember that i actually heard and saw during these days.
It would be better if Jeff actually were able to tell me himself what you claim he has said about dealing with me.
It's just not possible that since i just published that report, within the last 45 minutes or so, and as long as it is, that you were able to read it, call him, tell him to read it, get this response from him, while you were still posting in other sections of the blog, and then write this in.
I found that highly questionable.
I am a very empathic and sensitive person. I have to be. I have always been.
The only way that someone like me can get past the minefield of various forms of disrespect, misunderstanding, abuse, and humiliation, is to have a good emotional radar, and know what is going on around you.
If someone has extended true genuine heartfelt gladness when they see you, or talk to you, or earnestly say EXACTLY the things i quoted him on, i have to take that at face value.
I have twisted nothing about him or about the things he has said to me or, about me, in the presence of others.
I have 5 people that saw and heard exactly the same things - no excuse me - Seven. Mr.TeacherMan and your petition driver Max also witnessed those exact same kinds of words come out of his mouth, the same genuine expression of warmth, and the same hesitancy about supporting your position that was becoming more and more clear in him the more we talked together.
People don't warmly give real BIG hugs, and often, just because they feel sorry for someone.
He gave me respect and compassion exactly the same things i gave to him. You have created another lie in front of the world and i am calling you out on it right now.
This man talked about his real, unforced, and genuine feelings.
Another thing i just noticed. It was obvious from the photo of him hugging me that if you actually look very carefully, you can see that the very top of his head is slightly taller than mine as we hug each other and are standing on even ground.
You are correct that he is, in fact, taller than me.
I did honestly appreciate that retraction by the way.
But now im pissed that you would turn right around and tell me everything i witnessed in this man, including everything i actually quoted directly from his own words that other people heard him say and tell me and everyone here, that it was what ?
fiction ? fallacy ? lies ? that i just invented it ? that my and everyone eles's radar was so off that we were actually all mistaken ?
and this guy - this humble and gentle and soft spoken guy - one of the most genuine people i have met this entire week - was making it all up just because he felt intimidated by me ?
Let's talk about photo analysis, OK ?
If you look at the picture of us taken through the glass window, you see from left to right, Cynthia (far left), Christine(near left closest to the camera), me (in front of the big pole), Dana, and Jeff at far right.
Let's look at body language, first of all.
There is very obviously what appears to be a comfortable distance between us all - exactly as i described in my narrative depending on who was talking to whom and at during what time. Not a "blockade" as you have described. At no time did he ever indicate that he was uncomfortable with me or our proximity. He is a smart man. Samrt enough to be out ther in the cold and working hard for a cause he deeply belives in - even if it is based in hatred and bias and misundertsanding and fear. certainly strong enough and smart enough to simply walk into the store and tell a manager that he felt harassed if that was the case fior even a moment. Since he was right by the only doors, he could not have been "blockaded" as you describe ie, because in order to do so, we would have had to block traffic flow in and out of the store - which we duid not ever do for one moment. You are trying to get your supporters behind you in using such distortion and i hope that by the end of this mail at least some of them will realize just whi you are and how you really do things that are so subtle, and so underhanded, it might just slip by many that actually want to hear more of your message, and that support you - you can use words like "blockaded" to bolster your support in the minds of your supporters - because you know you can get away with it. It's actually a very subtle psychological trick, therefore completely disingenous.
I KNOW you now. You have shown me your hand, i now i have shown you mine and you now know me.
you did this because you know you can get away with it with the people that support you...they should honestly be insulted by the way you use their minds and prey on their fears and their patriotism and anythign else that suits the ends of your will...
In this picture, no one single person is within what is regarded as anyone else's "personal space".
If you look at everyone visible (except Dana - you cant really see her clearly) - you will also notice what any expert on body language would also agree with me on - relaxed body language. Not only relaxed, but very comfortable. Very obvious.
Christine is relaxedly leaning back. Cynthia is squinting into the Sun, but she is also smiling - her body is tilted back and away from the group, indicating she is resting most of her stance on her hips and lower spine, indicating a relaxed and comfortable posture that one must assume when standing comfortably in that position for a while.
My stance is almost exactly like hers, but you can see it very much more clearly. My head is tilted slightly to one side, and you can almost see that i have a very pleasant and relaxed facial expression. Smiling. My stance is comfortable and indicates true self-confidence.
Just as an aside that must be directly related to a person's expression of genuine self confidence and self comfort as will always be belied in their body language, movement, and stance true self expression.
This is a VERY difficult thing to hide in body language because there are always very subtle or not so subtle indicators about how a person A.) feels about themself and B.) feels about others they are in the company of --
all of that As specifically regards your childish, mean, and very nasty and very subtle underhanded little slap about
" 99.something percentage of us who are positive which sex we are." -
You actually defeated your own argument in this one simple sentence.
You thought it was cute, highly intelligent, subtle, maybe even a little cunning - you defintiely intended it to be cutting, in fact, it's one of the single most nasty and intentionally rude things you could ever say to someone like myself - and you know that as perfectly well when you wrote it....
even though you actually surprised me very much earlier this morning by apologizing to me and Dana for misrepresnting our physical stature in your earlier missives to the general public - -
Anyway - to continue - For those of us that do feel compelled to risk our lives, give up our careers, lose family and friends that we dearly love, and face the constant rdicule, gossip, rudenss, judgement, humiliation, abuse, and general torment involved in the radical and difficult change in one's biological gender from one to the other - one has to be as sure as it gets, my dear - you would certainly have to know this -
Dr. Jacobs would certainly also have to know this - by the very same standards which you and others define this as a "disorder" as listed in the DSM IV classifications, the same standards are used for testing of potential gender change candidates in this country.
Meaning, simply, that one had better be darned sure - so sure in fact, that there cannot even be the slightest doubt of their actual gender by all psychological and psychiatric standards for testint that ccurrently exist in this country.
those tests (such as the MMPI exhaustive battery)( a series of progressively eliminative testing to reveal disorders in such a way that the answers and result cannot ever usually be faked, fooled, or cheated on even if you lie while taking it...
By many accepted standards, this eliminates the possibillity of any other major mental, and even a vast number of physiologic disorders - before the person can be passed thru without any question whatsoever -
so the answer to your little slap, where you just defeated yout own entire argument and made mine without me even having to try (but i am going to do it right here so that everyone else can see it in plain sight, and in clear terms) -
- is that - exactly the same standards that you and many detractors use to continuously denote deeply negative connotations, that use such terms as "mental illness" and "disorder",....
- are exactly the same standards that most of us will have to pass so rigourously that we had better be DARNED sure, my dear.
So had the therapists, doctors, surgeons, endocrinologists, personal physicians, and anyone else involved in the transitional process.
We are probably some of the MOST sure people about our gender on the entire planet, and that case is made by exactly the same psychiatric standards that you yourself have used to negatively define us by.
OK - back to the photo - basically it's pretty easy to see that anyone that looks at this photo can see that almost everyone's posture mirrors everyone else's.
Relaxed and very comfortable in that snapshot in time. Jeff and i are talking, and our postures almost exactly mirror one anothers'. Self assured, comfortable, confident, and very relaxed in almost every way.
I'll do the other pictures too, if you want, but i dont think that is necessary at this point. Any reasonably straightforward person could have figured past your lies and distortions by now.
I DO understand, though. You are playing politics against opinion, as am i. You must do this to support you aims, so must i.
YOU HAVE to stand on it now - you made your position but dont want to seem mean or too rude or vicious- public opinion really counts here as do the opinions of your supporters and allies -
you CAN'T back down all the way because they still have to be made to believe somehow that we are a bunch of bullies and thugs -
so you fabricate another distortion - a very subtle one - just enough to be effective but not too over the top as to seem you have really given much ground at all... really sucks and is kind of sad.
I still think he should have spoken for himself. Maybe he will sometime. That would be nice.
If you really respected him as a person, you would let him speak for himself, in repsonse to my assertions and descriptions of what has happened.
That way, there could be no mistake and no doubt as to accuracy one way or another.
You are a horrible liar.
Next, we go to your statement about HE suggested the hug. Anyone on the face of this planet that knows me, knows that i have intitiated 99% of all the hugs going on in these pictures and in my narratives -
- and you are going to tell me, that as visibly happy as he was to see me again that day,
- and him, telling me not once, but twice "how much he really liked me", and not only accepting my hugs but giving them back in just as much force of nothing but plain and sheer warmth between people that are comfortable with each other - ?
- and you are still trying to twist it into words like blockade and intimidation. You are a liar. Dont waste my time.
I know you have made yourself my enemy, and that you are committed in your heart to my destruction and tearing me and anyone like me down and out of the human race if you could.
I can see and feel the burning rage of hatred and disgust and contempt in you, that you have in your belief for people like me -
i can see it in your eyes. Your shot shows a fearful expression - lines of all too often felt anger and bitterness in your face - your body language looks tense and very insecure with yourself.
That's part of the reason why you hate others that actually ARE so secure and truly happy with themselves.
A.) we ARE closer to actually living the full truth and potential of ourselves than many people will ever be able to accept and
b.) you live in lies and hatred and gossip and untruth and contemptous sneers at anyone that dosent fit your view of the world.
Quite sad. you are brilliant, and probably could be so much more beautiful, but the bitterness inside of you shows all too clearly on your face.
Unable to resolve what ever has placed such horrible insecuity within you and with anyone else's expression of genuine humanity,
you dont even recognize genuine unconditional passion and compassion when you see it - you think it's an agenda.
You look down your nose and villify and sneer at people like me but it's really not me or anyone else.
If you weren't so bitter inside of your own self - you wouldnt hate others so much. It's called projection.
The idea of gender expression that flies in the face of everything you have ever been taught - and i am sure - especially sexuality - makes you so uncomfortable it just had made you crazy and dark with rage and hatred for anyone that is actually that comfortable with themselves or their own gender, or sexuality.
just like all the kids i grew up with that picked on and hated anyone that was different than what they thought was "supposed to be normal".
You say you are working for the forces of light and goodness, but you use the darkest means possible to do this. You use lies and fear and spite and hatred and distortions to do it.
You are a desperate person, Theresa. It shows on your face in that picture. I honestly hope you find a way to become joyful again -
my gut instinct is that you havent been that way for a long time - either since a teenager or a very little girl - thats the last time you knew real joy and laughter - true unconditional passion and self- expression withour fear or judgement.
Someone or something ripped that away from you when you were very young, and you will either beome a tool for the darkest evils in the world, disguised as good, or reconcile yourself and find what actual joy, and true loving kindness and unconditional compassion is really all about again.
God gave you the capaciity to do either, you can still choose something other than darkness and hatred and madness.
I m not mad at you, i just think if you are going to hate - then DO it. Show yourself and dont insult my intelligence by couching your hatred and insolence and contempt in fake graciousness.
that is even worse than directly insulting someone to their face. You couldnt even find the courage to insult me in a straightforward and decent manner.
At least the Elder woman and her friend did that to my face.
It hurt my feelings and was unecessary. It made me angry. But i did not insult her in return at that time.
She left that day, after taking my hand, and giving me a smile - kind of sad smile though.
Either both things were entirely disingenous - which would fly in the face of being a Good Christian Person - being that disingenous, or, she really did know that i meant her no harm, nor hard feelings and that we met in the "heat of battle" for what we both believe in.
She and her friend made it personal. I just made it difficult for them to succeed in their goals and did not resort to those same means.
She was very nice - really - she is a sweet lady - but is judging me and everyone else like me - exactly the opposite of what the scriptures tell her to do. Literally told me to my face i could not give witness to my own self awareness because i am so broken that i really need to be fixed, By whom ? YOU ?
You talk about imposing my will on others, but if some of your supporters could find a way to make gender change illegal, they would and you know it.
Some would ike to see us all killed or locked away from the rest of society and you know it. You would gladly deprive me of every ounce of freewill to enforce your version of spritiual correctness on us.
Impose MY will unfairly ? why dont you just go and be happy or something. Take a vacation and actually have some real joyful fun with someone that you truly love.
Her friend was the very first to raise her voice and engage in anger that day. I see you still never indicated that she was my age and taller than me.
Also very unstable and easily enraged.
She left in utter confused rage. even told me to stop talking about it, because i was "confusing her"
How is it, that one of your supporters, so sure and certain of her cause, would be so easlity enraged and "confused" after only 5or ten minutes of debate with a freak like me ?
She Left her post in rage and confusion an hour before the older woman finally did because i kept calling her out on every false assertion she tried to make about people like me.
I actually tried to discuss the issues of gender identity and human sexuality with her and she just totally freaked out.
I would actually genuinely love to sit down with both of them again and just talk with them.
I publicly apologize to you, and to both of them if they were offended or discomforted by me in any way whatsoever. I mean that and there is no insult behind it.
I could probably get along well with both of them under other circumstances and we were just sitting and talking - debating our points when not so deeply involved in the political fight with each other instead.
If you think that is just an empty or meaningless offer, then try me on it. I'll still sit down with you, her, both of them - anytime, anyplace, and try to have a civil discussion with all of you.
I could be dead completely wrong about you. I honestly hope that i am. Meet me in any forum of your choice and we will see where it goes and let witnesses on both sides be the judge.
Meet me for coffee. I dont care. I might just surprise you. I might hate what you do, but i dont hate YOU. i think that may be one of the differences between you and I.
That's enough. I am sure you will hate me and do eveything in your power to destroy me.
You may even succeed, but not before you are exposed as a truly lying, and hatred-filled person that you may have become in this life.
Let go of it, and learn somehow to truly love and be joyful again - unconditionally accept all others without judgement just like the father would - just like he told all of us to do - truly love again, once again be the joyful little beautiful girl that you once were, or it will destroy you for sure.
i get angry, i judge. i say stupid things out of raw emotion sometimes. When i do, i am genuinely sorry for it. I am human, just as you are.
Just dont say you are sorry with one hand, and then slap me in the face with hatred and underhanded blatant spite at the same time with the other.
You yourself showed more about a person's character than i ever possibly could with my own words.
Thanks for writing to me more directly.
I did appreciate that, even if i was not so pleasant to you in return. I hope to see or talk to you again sometime in the near future.
Sincerely,
Maryanne
